The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by **Skywalker** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:22 am

bjmdds wrote:Did Skywalker see TBU this weekend? So far, it has done $163 million in just 3 weekends in the USA and the new international markets are up considerably as well over the second film.

Me and Mrs Skywalker plan to watch it next week.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:19 pm

When you and the Mrs. watch it, look to see just how similar in style Craig's Bond is to Bourne, as well as the action scenes, and let me know your opinion of it.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:41 am

bjmdds wrote:When you and the Mrs. watch it, look to see just how similar in style Craig's Bond is to Bourne, as well as the action scenes, and let me know your opinion of it.

So Bourne is copying Bond now.
How sad.
I like the Bourne films, but I like the Bond films better. Especially looking forward to Bond 22.
I'm sure Daniel Craig will stamp his mark on Bond again, and be praised for his great work.
When will the humble pie be served? And can myself, Stocks and The Sweeney have seconds?

james stock · Post by **james stock** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:17 pm

I Think bond is bourne and vice versa, i swear the way the casino was shot and the way the bournes are shot is indentical, muted colours and shaky cmaera work

I am sorry i dont get to post here that often but i like this forum because you get a nice balance of pro -craig andf agiainst.

No abuse and ridicule like on commander bond and mi6 and it's ilk.

Gary Seven · Post by **Gary Seven** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:52 pm

When will the humble pie be served?

I'm not having any. I

thought Craig was badly miscast as Bond and his wooden and dull performance in CR didn't change my mind.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:17 pm

Gary Seven wrote:
When will the humble pie be served?
I'm not having any. I

thought Craig was badly miscast as Bond and his wooden and dull performance in CR didn't change my mind.

Gary-7 knows his stuff. I agree, as do the 'majority' here. Craig's Bond WAS 'different', however, being different does not equate to being great in the role.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:20 pm

james stock wrote:I Think bond is bourne and vice versa, i swear the way the casino was shot and the way the bournes are shot is indentical, muted colours and shaky cmaera work

I am sorry i dont get to post here that often but i like this forum because you get a nice balance of pro -craig andf agiainst.

No abuse and ridicule like on commander bond and mi6 and it's ilk.

Balance is what makes the Bond force here so great! Young Skywalker will attest to that! MI6 and CB.net are two sites with ONE common opinion, that Daniel Craig IS a great James Bond. This forum is the sanctuary to the opposition's views.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:26 pm

bjmdds wrote: Daniel Craig IS a great James Bond.

Finally he sees the light.
Yes bj, Daniel Craig is a great James Bond. Welcome to the pro-Craig group. You'll find life is greener on the other side.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:30 pm

Captain Nash wrote:
bjmdds wrote: Daniel Craig IS a great James Bond.
Finally he sees the light.
Yes bj, Daniel Craig is a great James Bond. Welcome to the pro-Craig group. You'll find life is greener on the other side.

That is NOT what I meant Nash, you know that.

That is what "Benny and his Jetsetters" believe at MI6, and the lot at CB.net.

Count_Lippe · Post by **Count_Lippe** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:17 pm

Bourne is the spy movie of today.

Bond is a thing of the past.

Post by **bjmdds** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:22 am

Not internationally, yet. We will see what numbers TBU does outside of the USA first.

Post by **Kristatos** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:14 pm

Count_Lippe wrote:Bourne is the spy movie of today.

Bond is a thing of the past.

Bourne may be the spy movie du jour, but unlike Bond, the formula isn't flexible enough to keep the franchise going for over 40 years. That's why Matt Damon and Paul Greengrass have both said that this will be the last Bourne film, and that any further films will be redundant.

Post by **bjmdds** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:01 pm

This current spy film genre would never last over 4 decades. The question will be when does Bond returns to his "core valued themes" and not mimic a 'shot in the pan' 3 film saga such as Bourne. How much of this will the public tolerate until it says ENOUGH?

Post by **Skywalker** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:34 pm

Kristatos wrote:
Count_Lippe wrote:Bourne is the spy movie of today.

Bond is a thing of the past.
Bourne may be the spy movie du jour, but unlike Bond, the formula isn't flexible enough to keep the franchise going for over 40 years. That's why Matt Damon and Paul Greengrass have both said that this will be the last Bourne film, and that any further films will be redundant.

I agree that in it's current style (which would be hard to break) it would be difficult to keep the Bourne franchise going.

Post by **bjmdds** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:15 pm

In Hollywood, money talks.If TBU continues it's rise at the box office, look for a 4th installment of Bourne in 2010, which will coincide with the release of Bond 23.

Post by **Kristatos** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:55 pm

bjmdds wrote:In Hollywood, money talks.If TBU continues it's rise at the box office, look for a 4th installment of Bourne in 2010, which will coincide with the release of Bond 23.

But if something is conceived as a finite series, even Hollywood sometimes lets things come to a natural end, however profitable. George Lucas has even abandoned Star Wars chapters 7-9, which would have been a huge moneyspinner, and I think it's safe to say that there won't be a Lord of the Rings 4 or Harry Potter 8.

Post by **bjmdds** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:12 am

IF a HP book number 8 ever gets written by JK,COUNT ON an 8th film to be made. Star Wars still did six films in total. Bourne may still be around in 2010. I wonder if 24's Bauer will, or will 24 fade out in popularity,which has started to occur.

Post by **Kristatos** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:23 pm

bjmdds wrote:IF a HP book number 8 ever gets written by JK,COUNT ON an 8th film to be made.

But it won't.

Post by **bjmdds** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:48 pm

Remember Kristatos, ala 1983....Never Say Never Again!

Post by **Skywalker** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:30 am

bjmdds wrote:Remember Kristatos, ala 1983....Never Say Never Again!

There are examples of Hollywood pushing the boundries. Take Jaws for example. Great first film and they tried to rush through the sequal at the expense of missing out on Speilberg and Dreyfuss. The awful Jaws 3 followed and arguably the worst film ever made succeeded that one in Jaws the revenge.

Star Trek is a franchise that has had longevity. Admittedly all the TV series have now ended, but the films continue to roll out. I'm sure there will be a future Star Trek series.

I think Bourne and HP have run their course (For totally different reasons).