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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Kristatos » Wed May 09, 2012 7:09 am

Mazer Rackham wrote:For a new Bond to hit screens in 2014 EON is not required, nor Danny Boy, Babs or Mikey, an OK from is Danjaq LLC would suffice.

Can you elaborate on this? I've never been entirely clear about the relationship between EON and Danjaq.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Napoleon Solo » Wed May 09, 2012 2:02 pm

Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:For a new Bond to hit screens in 2014 EON is not required, nor Danny Boy, Babs or Mikey, an OK from is Danjaq LLC would suffice.

Can you elaborate on this? I've never been entirely clear about the relationship between EON and Danjaq.


I'm obviously not Mazer and he can elaborate further, but my understanding is that Eon is a production company (the entity that actually makes the movies) while Danjaq is a holding company and actually owns the Broccoli-Wilson family's rights/interests/etc. in the franchise. From the outside, they seem to operate as if they were one entity, but legally they are separate.

Here's a similar example in the U.S. involving auto racing. Nascar and International Speedway Corp. are controlled by the same family. Nascar is a racing series. Many (though not all) of its races just happen to be held at racetracks owned by International Speedway Corp. This is not a perfect analogy to Eon/Danjaq but you get the idea.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Napoleon Solo » Wed May 09, 2012 2:04 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:For a new Bond to hit screens in 2014 EON is not required, nor Danny Boy, Babs or Mikey, an OK from is Danjaq LLC would suffice.

Can you elaborate on this? I've never been entirely clear about the relationship between EON and Danjaq.


I'm obviously not Mazer and he can elaborate further, but my understanding is that Eon is a production company (the entity that actually makes the movies) while Danjaq is a holding company and actually owns the Broccoli-Wilson family's rights/interests/etc. in the franchise. From the outside, they seem to operate as if they were one entity, but legally they are separate.

Here's a similar example in the U.S. involving auto racing. Nascar and International Speedway Corp. are controlled by the same family. Nascar is a racing series. Many (though not all) of its races just happen to be held at racetracks owned by International Speedway Corp. This is not a perfect analogy to Eon/Danjaq but you get the idea.


Also, I'm intrigued by the scenario Mazer provided of how there could be a conflict between Eon and MGM/Sony. Is there a way that Danjaq could sign off on a Bond project that's opposed by MGW and BB?
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Bond's ghost » Thu May 10, 2012 6:18 pm

Why not let Sony have a Bond series they could do it like X-men First Class set in the 1950s and 60s
Eon could continue making new Bond with cell phones and political correctness.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Mazer Rackham » Mon May 14, 2012 5:34 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:
Napoleon Solo wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:For a new Bond to hit screens in 2014 EON is not required, nor Danny Boy, Babs or Mikey, an OK from is Danjaq LLC would suffice.

Can you elaborate on this? I've never been entirely clear about the relationship between EON and Danjaq.


I'm obviously not Mazer and he can elaborate further, but my understanding is that Eon is a production company (the entity that actually makes the movies) while Danjaq is a holding company and actually owns the Broccoli-Wilson family's rights/interests/etc. in the franchise. From the outside, they seem to operate as if they were one entity, but legally they are separate.

Here's a similar example in the U.S. involving auto racing. Nascar and International Speedway Corp. are controlled by the same family. Nascar is a racing series. Many (though not all) of its races just happen to be held at racetracks owned by International Speedway Corp. This is not a perfect analogy to Eon/Danjaq but you get the idea.


Also, I'm intrigued by the scenario Mazer provided of how there could be a conflict between Eon and MGM/Sony. Is there a way that Danjaq could sign off on a Bond project that's opposed by MGW and BB?

Danjaq holds the licenses and rights while EON is only a production company, not an uncommon separation its a good way for the Brcos to pay themselves twice. Unless there some addendum requiring all films be made using EON specifically I don't think using another production company would be prohibited. It may not matter if MGM owns a majority of the rights holding company and EON together. My own recollection is a little murky if I can clear it up some I'll try to share it. Part of the problem is the partnership was supposed to be silent if UA/MGM has 51% or more it was happy to let Cubby be the public head.

MGM is not lying down about this, their statements to Variety confirm they want to produce Bond on a scheduled. MGM and Sony are in lockstep on this, the studio being public about demanding the next movie be made is new, it suggests lot has changed behind the scenes. Last time the studio was pushing for the next movie is was 2002/2003, they wanted Bond 21 by 2004. Honestly with Pierce and a script both of which they had it could be done. EON screwed it up and the studio missed out a lot of money. DAD was the best earner for the studio in its history as a Bond partner, they wanted to strike while the iron was hot and with Pierce they had a guaranteed hit, MGM would be very different today if the 2004 movie had happened.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Kristatos » Mon May 14, 2012 7:03 pm

Mazer Rackham wrote:Honestly with Pierce and a script both of which they had it could be done.

Are you talking about the pre-Haggis draft of CR?
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Napoleon Solo » Tue May 15, 2012 3:18 am

Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:Honestly with Pierce and a script both of which they had it could be done.

Are you talking about the pre-Haggis draft of CR?


I'm curious about this myself. I've heard, but have no documentation, that there was an early draft where the pre-credits sequence was, in effect, the construction site scene we eventually got in Casino Royale. In other words, there was an early draft of Casino that wasn't "origin of Bond."
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Kristatos » Tue May 15, 2012 6:53 am

Napoleon Solo wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:Honestly with Pierce and a script both of which they had it could be done.

Are you talking about the pre-Haggis draft of CR?


I'm curious about this myself. I've heard, but have no documentation, that there was an early draft where the pre-credits sequence was, in effect, the construction site scene we eventually got in Casino Royale. In other words, there was an early draft of Casino that wasn't "origin of Bond."

Purvis and Wade have said that their first draft wasn't a reboot, and implied that it was written with the assumption that Pierce would still be playing Bond.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Omega » Tue May 15, 2012 7:19 am

Kristatos wrote:
Napoleon Solo wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:Honestly with Pierce and a script both of which they had it could be done.

Are you talking about the pre-Haggis draft of CR?


I'm curious about this myself. I've heard, but have no documentation, that there was an early draft where the pre-credits sequence was, in effect, the construction site scene we eventually got in Casino Royale. In other words, there was an early draft of Casino that wasn't "origin of Bond."

Purvis and Wade have said that their first draft wasn't a reboot, and implied that it was written with the assumption that Pierce would still be playing Bond.

katied had a copy of it once, her computer died taking the file with it.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby shaken not stirred » Tue May 15, 2012 8:41 am

Why can't we drop this stupid reboot and go back to the one and only true timeline, I don't want a remake of all bonds past adventures, ditch the last half of die another day say bond was hallucinating after that long stint in that prison and he had to adjust.
M dies at the end, Skyfall is Bond's ancestral lodge, and Eve is really Moneypenny. I do hope this spoils your enjoyment of Skyfall, pro-Craig trolls.

I support the real james bond from 40 years not a over emotional bourne wannabe thug.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Thunderpussy » Tue May 15, 2012 9:39 am

The first teaser poster for Skyfail will be released tomorrow going by some reports.
I'l try and control my excitement. _.//
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby bjmdds » Tue May 15, 2012 6:59 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO04VXBIS0M The teaser trailer is already out today :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby katied » Tue May 15, 2012 7:09 pm

I did have a copy of an early draft of the CR script-and my computer didn't die, it started acting up....The script was quite different from what actually made it onscreen, too.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby bjmdds » Tue May 15, 2012 7:11 pm

In March 2004, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade began writing a screenplay for Pierce Brosnan as Bond, aiming to bring back the flavour of Ian Fleming's original Bond novels.[8] Paul Haggis' main contribution was to rewrite the climax of the film. He explained, "the draft that was there was very faithful to the book and there was a confession, so in the original draft the character confessed and killed herself. She then sent Bond to chase after the villains; Bond chased the villains into the house. I don't know why but I thought that Vesper had to be in the sinking house and Bond has to want to kill her and then try and save her."[9]
Director Quentin Tarantino expressed interest in directing an adaptation of Casino Royale,[10] although he did not follow this up with Eon. Tarantino also expressed interest in Casino Royale after Pulp Fiction. He claims to have worked behind the scenes with the Fleming family, and believed this was the reason why filmmakers finally went ahead with Casino Royale.[11] Tarantino also said, he would have set it in the 1950s, like the novel, would have filmed it in black-and-white and would have only made it with Pierce Brosnan as Bond. In February 2005, Martin Campbell was announced as the film's director.[12] Later in 2005, Sony led a consortium that purchased MGM, allowing Sony to gain distribution rights starting with the film.[13]
Eon admitted that they had relied too heavily on CGI effects in the more recent films, particularly Die Another Day, and were keen to accomplish the stunts in Casino Royale "the old fashioned way".[14] In keeping with this drive for more realism, screenwriters Purvis, Wade and Haggis wanted the script to follow as closely as possible to the original 1953 novel, keeping Fleming's darker storyline and characterisation of Bond.[15]
Casino Royale became the first Bond film to take its title from a Fleming novel or short story since 1987's The Living Daylights. It is also the first Bond film since then not to be adapted as a novelisation. Instead, a film tie-in edition of Fleming's original novel was published.[16]
[edit]Casting
Pierce Brosnan had originally signed a deal for four films when he was cast in the role of James Bond. This was fulfilled with the production of Die Another Day in 2002. However, at this stage Brosnan was approaching his 50th birthday, and speculation began that the producers were seeking to replace him with a younger actor.[17] Brosnan officially announced he was stepping down in February 2005. At one point producer Michael G. Wilson claimed there was a list of over 200 names being considered for his replacement.[18] Croatian actor Goran Višnjić auditioned for the role the same day as Craig, but was reportedly unable to master a British accent.[19] According to Martin Campbell, Henry Cavill was the only actor in serious contention for the role, but at 22 years old, was considered too young.[20] Sam Worthington was also considered.[21]
In May 2005, Daniel Craig announced that MGM and producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli had assured him that he would get the role of Bond, and Matthew Vaughn told reporters that MGM offered him the opportunity to direct, but Eon Productions at that point had not approached either of them.[22] A year beforehand, Craig rejected the offer, as he felt the series had descended into formula: only when he read the script did he become interested. Craig read all of Fleming's novels to prepare for the part, and cited Mossad and British Secret Service agents who served as advisors on the set of Munich as inspiring because, "Bond has just come out of the service and he's a killer. [...] You can see it in their eyes, you know immediately: oh, hello, he's a killer. There's a look. These guys walk into a room and very subtly they check the perimeters for an exit. That's the sort of thing I wanted."[23]
On 14 October 2005, Eon Productions, Sony Pictures Entertainment and MGM announced at a press conference in London that Craig would be the sixth actor to portray James Bond.[24] A tuxedo-clad Craig arrived via a Royal Navy speedboat.[25] Significant controversy followed the decision, with some critics and fans expressing doubt the producers had made the right choice. Throughout the entire production period, Internet campaigns such as danielcraigisnotbond.com expressed their dissatisfaction and threatened to boycott the film in protest.[26] Craig, unlike previous actors, was not considered by the protesters to fit the tall, dark, handsome and charismatic image of Bond to which viewers had been accustomed.[27] The Daily Mirror ran a front page news story critical of Craig, with the headline, The Name's Bland – James Bland
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Blowfeld » Wed May 16, 2012 3:52 pm

I think what kills me is after 2002 EON spent 2003 trying to make a Jinx spinoff. Obviously the fodder about worst movie every were overblown.
A few things I didn't know about Tarantino, if he did what they say here he and Pierce are directly responsible for CR and EON stole their idea. Almost find it laughable that someone intimates Tatantino didn't' follow up with EON. :roll:
Director Quentin Tarantino expressed interest in directing an adaptation of Casino Royale,[10] although he did not follow this up with Eon. Tarantino also expressed interest in Casino Royale after Pulp Fiction. He claims to have worked behind the scenes with the Fleming family, and believed this was the reason why filmmakers finally went ahead with Casino Royale.[11] Tarantino also said, he would have set it in the 1950s, like the novel, would have filmed it in black-and-white and would have only made it with Pierce Brosnan as Bond.



Mazer I was wondering who owns the rights to CR? Did Sony trade it to MGM or Danjaq? If MGM owns it couldn't they remake it without EON calling whatever they want? Moonraker style.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry » Wed May 16, 2012 4:36 pm

Thunderpussy wrote:The first teaser poster for Skyfail will be released tomorrow going by some reports.
I'l try and control my excitement. _.//


Can't wait! _./// _.// _./// _./// _.// _.// _.// _./// _./// _./// _./// _.// _.// _.// _./// _./// _./// _./// _./// _.// _.// _.// _.// :evil:
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Napoleon Solo » Wed May 16, 2012 6:47 pm

Regarding Casino Royale, this HMSS article has some information on what Haggis may have put in the script.

http://www.hmss.com/films/bondscripts/index.html
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby Blowfeld » Thu May 17, 2012 12:52 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:Regarding Casino Royale, this HMSS article has some information on what Haggis may have put in the script.

http://www.hmss.com/films/bondscripts/index.html

Ugh. Here I thought some of the lines I came up with were cheesy and cringing worthy. Yikes those "professionals" were paid to do this! Some of it shouldn't be in fan fic.
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Re: Bond 24 set for 2014

Postby oscartheman » Thu May 17, 2012 3:55 pm

Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
Thunderpussy wrote:The first teaser poster for Skyfail will be released tomorrow going by some reports.
I'l try and control my excitement. _.//


Can't wait! _./// _.// _./// _./// _.// _.// _.// _./// _./// _./// _./// _.// _.// _.// _./// _./// _./// _./// _./// _.// _.// _.// _.// :evil:

I have the poster but I need someone to upload it for me.
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