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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Eon can only afford to produce one of these now:

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That's about it! :cheers:
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FormerBondFan wrote:What about Batman in 3D?
I think it should be up to the director. I haven't seen Avatar yet, but from what I've read, James Cameron seems to be a director who knows how to use 3D properly, to create a more immersive experience without bashing the audience over the head with it. The directors of Up were the same. However, God preserve us from another rash of 3D gimmick movies like the ones of the '50s and the '80s, with stuff coming out of the screen every five minutes just for the sake of it.
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The gimmick aspect of it is why EON should stay away from 3D.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Eon can only afford to produce one of these now:

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Superb! I used to have one of those.

With regards Bond 3D, I've seen 2 movies recently in 3D - A Christmas Carol and Avatar. A Christmas Carol I thought was stunning in 3D, Avatar was ok, but the 3D glasses we had to wear in Avatar were huge and heavy on the nose - a big distratction, to the point when I couldn't really enjoy much of the movie. If I had to wear similar glasses for Bond I wouldn't enjoy it at all.

If however, it was the simplified polarised specs I saw with Scrooge, then maybe the experience would be good. But the movie itself has to work in 3D or 2D. It can't just be done for gimmicks sake - something EON are sadly renowned for.
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But the movie itself has to work in 3D or 2D. It can't just be done for gimmicks sake - something EON are sadly renowned for.
The gimmick aspect of 3D has been pointed out quite a bit-and for the most part dismissed.But a few seem to like the idea and dismiss the fact that it's a gimmick and are stamping their feet and *demanding*that Bond 23 be in 3D. :roll:
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The Sweeney wrote:
Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Eon can only afford to produce one of these now:

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Superb! I used to have one of those.

With regards Bond 3D, I've seen 2 movies recently in 3D - A Christmas Carol and Avatar. A Christmas Carol I thought was stunning in 3D, Avatar was ok, but the 3D glasses we had to wear in Avatar were huge and heavy on the nose - a big distratction, to the point when I couldn't really enjoy much of the movie. If I had to wear similar glasses for Bond I wouldn't enjoy it at all.

If however, it was the simplified polarised specs I saw with Scrooge, then maybe the experience would be good. But the movie itself has to work in 3D or 2D. It can't just be done for gimmicks sake - something EON are sadly renowned for.
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Cool! I had the Viewmaster Moonraker....
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Did they make many View master 007s?
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Dunno how they could justify using 3D..at this point using 3D-the cost of it-would be crazy expensive. Plus, it seems like such a gimmick and a "look at us! ploy(as cool as Avatar was-and it was-what is good for one movie is not good for another(stating the obvious, I know).
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The cost of 3D wouldn't necessarily be that great since there is a conversion process. They are talking about it for the next Harry potters, Green Lantern among others. But there is a difference between conversion and what Cameron did with Avatar which was a 3D film from scratch with intentionally eye popping 3D scenes designed into it by creating new technology to film it.

Hollywood is watching Avatar all they are thinking is "how can we cash in". It is tempting since the average price for 3D tickets so alluring. But not all 3D movies make a mark, the response to Disney's A Christmas Carol 3d was tepid at best.

Honestly I don't know how successful the 3d conversions can be (meaning how they look), or what has to be done to the film converting it.

Whenever they get to Bond 23 they are probably better leaving off it alone, unless they get some 3D experts on boards, then gear up for it possibly the next time. By the time production even begins to get serious Hollywood will know if 3D was a fluke for Avatar or if it actually is the next big thing. Personally my feeling is 3D will work for some films but not others, well see how that pans out in 2010.
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Mazer Rackham wrote:The cost of 3D wouldn't necessarily be that great since there is a conversion process. They are talking about it for the next Harry potters, Green Lantern among others. But there is a difference between conversion and what Cameron did with Avatar which was a 3D film from scratch with intentionally eye popping 3D scenes designed into it by creating new technology to film it.

Hollywood is watching Avatar all they are thinking is "how can we cash in". It is tempting since the average price for 3D tickets so alluring. But not all 3D movies make a mark, the response to Disney's A Christmas Carol 3d was tepid at best.

Honestly I don't know how successful the 3d conversions can be (meaning how they look), or what has to be done to the film converting it.

Whenever they get to Bond 23 they are probably better leaving off it alone, unless they get some 3D experts on boards, then gear up for it possibly the next time. By the time production even begins to get serious Hollywood will know if 3D was a fluke for Avatar or if it actually is the next big thing. Personally my feeling is 3D will work for some films but not others, well see how that pans out in 2010.
The first Premiership game is live in 3D, in selected pubs across the UK today. It will be interesting to see if this takes off.
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The Sweeney wrote:With regards Bond 3D, I've seen 2 movies recently in 3D - A Christmas Carol and Avatar. A Christmas Carol I thought was stunning in 3D, Avatar was ok, but the 3D glasses we had to wear in Avatar were huge and heavy on the nose - a big distratction, to the point when I couldn't really enjoy much of the movie. If I had to wear similar glasses for Bond I wouldn't enjoy it at all.
Yes, I finally saw Avatar in 3D as well, having previously seen Up, and I agree that Disney 3D is superior to the Real D process used for Avatar. It wasn't so much the weight of the glasses that I had a problem with, so much as that the process itself made my eyes water. I don't know what it was, but I felt like I was cross-eyed for 3 hours. The name "Disney 3D" makes it sound as if Disney has exclusive rights to the process, and that therefore, Bond 23 will be in Real D :(

There were trailers for a whole bunch of forthcoming 3D features, including Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland (from Disney), starring Johnny Depp, who appears to be channeling Kenneth Williams as the Mad Hatter. Looks good.
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No I just meant Disney production not necessarily their process. Although Disney and Dolby worked together developing it.
Disney does have a 3d label that makes it seem like they have their own format, but they can be presented using any digital 3D technology, RealD, Dolby 3D, XpanD 3D and MasterImage 3D. But RealD and Dolby 3d are the two biggest with RealD in more theaters primarily because it is cheaper to install and maintain. (from what I remember, I need to bone up on the 3d tech)

What they could possibly do for Bond 23 3d depends what works best overall by the time they get around it to 2011 2012? and what studio they are working with. I think Sony had an agreement with RealD

Sween, We are getting more 3D sports venues here in the states. Like espn and a few sports bars
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I'd be very surprised to see a Bond film in 3D.
The cost, and why bother with Bond aspect would put EON off.
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What they could possibly do for Bond 23 3d depends what works best overall by the time they get around it to 2011 2012? and what studio they are working with. I think Sony had an agreement with RealD
I hope EON think about it..seriously..and do NOT make a Bond film in 3D. I think they would be surprised at the (negative) reaction. But EON are of the mind that desperate times call for desperate measures..or something like that. :?
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Mazer Rackham wrote:The cost of 3D wouldn't necessarily be that great since there is a conversion process. They are talking about it for the next Harry potters, Green Lantern among others. But there is a difference between conversion and what Cameron did with Avatar which was a 3D film from scratch with intentionally eye popping 3D scenes designed into it by creating new technology to film it.

Hollywood is watching Avatar all they are thinking is "how can we cash in". It is tempting since the average price for 3D tickets so alluring. But not all 3D movies make a mark, the response to Disney's A Christmas Carol 3d was tepid at best.

Honestly I don't know how successful the 3d conversions can be (meaning how they look), or what has to be done to the film converting it.

Whenever they get to Bond 23 they are probably better leaving off it alone, unless they get some 3D experts on boards, then gear up for it possibly the next time. By the time production even begins to get serious Hollywood will know if 3D was a fluke for Avatar or if it actually is the next big thing. Personally my feeling is 3D will work for some films but not others, well see how that pans out in 2010.
The first Premiership game is live in 3D, in selected pubs across the UK today. It will be interesting to see if this takes off.
Now that does sound cool.
3D does work in many areas, and has alot of appeal, but like reality tv it doesn't need to be everywhere.
I don't want all movies in 3D, just because James Cameron has the highest grossing movie.
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The conversion cost is something like 10 million a film, maybe less, maybe a little more depending. I could see Eon doing a conversion but I think they'd be better off not doing it.
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Mazer Rackham wrote:The conversion cost is something like 10 million a film, maybe less, maybe a little more depending. I could see Eon doing a conversion but I think they'd be better off not doing it.
Not unless they revert to doing another Lewis Gilbert style Bond, with a big underground lair for the villain. Something like Blofeld's volcano base in YOLT might look pretty cool in 3D. But with their current obsession with Bourne-style realism, I can't see 3D adding anything.
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I've heard people say that 3D does not work all the time with sport. I don't understand the technology myself.
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What I do not understand is why all of the sudden the big push for 3D everything; television, movies, video games, sports broadcast
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