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Will QOS be better or worse than CR?

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Post by carl stromberg »

From the first news of QOS, do you think you like it more than Casino Royale? Or will it be worse.

Michael G. Wilson has said there will be more action. So there will not be two hours of him trembling in front of a mirror. Although there is the follow on storyline - an obvious attempt to copy the Bourne trilogy (BJMMDS told me :twisted: ) - have they abandoned the "young" Bond element for this one?

It still has Daniel Craig playing James Bond though....
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The fact that this looks to have more action, why do people on here think it will be worse than CR?

Do they think having too much action in a Bond film is a bad thing?
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I won't be watching cos it will be just a run-of-the-mill action film. What is your views on the Bond girl?
I think pretty, but were is the sexual appeal.
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The Sweeney wrote:The fact that this looks to have more action, why do people on here think it will be worse than CR?

Do they think having too much action in a Bond film is a bad thing?
DCINB: "Not enough action, too much boring card play!"
*more action in QOS*
DCINB: "Boo, they're putting more action!"

:shock: There's no pleasing them (aside from Craig).
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After reading the sypnosis for the film, I think it sounds typically Bondian, and an intriguing story.
But we'll have to wait and see.
As Stocks said though, you guy's don't like this and don't like that.
We get that you don't like Craig, but what do you want in a Bond film?
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Captain Nash wrote:We get that you don't like Craig, but what do you want in a Bond film?
Well, we're stuck with Craig for now, but other than that I'd be happy with an end to Bond's larval stage and the return of the fully-formed character.
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Post by Gary Seven »

I agree with Kristatos that the young Bond aspect needs to be removed. I voted "better" because Casino Royale had an older man playing a version of a young Bond that was not convincing for me. Quantum Of Solace will have an adult James Bond, I believe, and will therefore be better than Casino Royale there is more chance that I will enjoy it.

They are continuing some storylines. This does not mean they are continuing the Casino Royale (2006) James Bond character? I'll have to wait until someone steals a script and puts the details on the internet in a few weeks.
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I do actually have a few concerns about QOS. I am a bit worried about hearing there will be twice as much action, and that the woman will be another Jinx type character.

I just hope we don't have another DAD in the making. I would have thought EON had learned their lesson....
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I was suggesting (not very well!) that the "more action" element - plus his teaming up with a couple of typical Bond girls - will annoy some fans who liked Casino Royale because of it's stripped down approach; they may feel that QOS is going back to Brosnan Bond film mode.

The Sweeney just expressed his concerns over this; I'll bet a few more fans of the new direction are too.

Bizarrely enough, a thrown together stock Michael G Wilson Craig Bond may win some Craig critics over.
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The Sweeney wrote:I do actually have a few concerns about QOS. I am a bit worried about hearing there will be twice as much action, and that the woman will be another Jinx type character.

I just hope we don't have another DAD in the making. I would have thought EON had learned their lesson....
I doubt that. DAD was ran by an incompetent crew, especially a director who had no understanding of the character. As long as the execution is made properly, we'll be in good hands. With DAD you could already spot the problems when they tried copying XXX and pander to the MTV generation. It doesn't look like that case for QOS.

But then again going by the series history, we could end up with a bad film. Not every Bond actor (save Dalton and Lazenby) went out without at least one bad film.
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stockslivevan wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:I do actually have a few concerns about QOS. I am a bit worried about hearing there will be twice as much action, and that the woman will be another Jinx type character.

I just hope we don't have another DAD in the making. I would have thought EON had learned their lesson....
I doubt that. DAD was ran by an incompetent crew, especially a director who had no understanding of the character. As long as the execution is made properly, we'll be in good hands. With DAD you could already spot the problems when they tried copying XXX and pander to the MTV generation. It doesn't look like that case for QOS.

But then again going by the series history, we could end up with a bad film. Not every Bond actor (save Dalton and Lazenby) went out without at least one bad film.
I rather thought Craig turned in a Dieselesque action perfomance in Casino Royale. :evil:

Daniel Craig will have a bad Bond movie. Or, rather has had a bad Bond movie. Casino Royale was simply awful.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:I do actually have a few concerns about QOS. I am a bit worried about hearing there will be twice as much action, and that the woman will be another Jinx type character.

I just hope we don't have another DAD in the making. I would have thought EON had learned their lesson....
I doubt that. DAD was ran by an incompetent crew, especially a director who had no understanding of the character. As long as the execution is made properly, we'll be in good hands. With DAD you could already spot the problems when they tried copying XXX and pander to the MTV generation. It doesn't look like that case for QOS.

But then again going by the series history, we could end up with a bad film. Not every Bond actor (save Dalton and Lazenby) went out without at least one bad film.
I rather thought Craig turned in a Dieselesque action perfomance in Casino Royale. :evil:

Daniel Craig will have a bad Bond movie. Or, rather has had a bad Bond movie. Casino Royale was simply awful.
Do you think QOS will be worse than CR, Cap'n?
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:I do actually have a few concerns about QOS. I am a bit worried about hearing there will be twice as much action, and that the woman will be another Jinx type character.

I just hope we don't have another DAD in the making. I would have thought EON had learned their lesson....
I doubt that. DAD was ran by an incompetent crew, especially a director who had no understanding of the character. As long as the execution is made properly, we'll be in good hands. With DAD you could already spot the problems when they tried copying XXX and pander to the MTV generation. It doesn't look like that case for QOS.

But then again going by the series history, we could end up with a bad film. Not every Bond actor (save Dalton and Lazenby) went out without at least one bad film.
I rather thought Craig turned in a Dieselesque action perfomance in Casino Royale. :evil:

Daniel Craig will have a bad Bond movie. Or, rather has had a bad Bond movie. Casino Royale was simply awful.
I disagree.
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Post by 007 »

The bad;

Daniel Craig is back.

Judi Dench is back.

David Arnold is back.

Paul Haggis is back.

The director seems to have caught the pretentious bug and is acting as if he's making a b/w Finnish arthouse film.

The synopsis doesn't sound very exciting.

Daniel Craig is back.


The good;

Michael G Wilson seems to have piped up more than usual this time and might be more involved in the film. This means we might get a couple of diverting action sequences.

The title is fine with me.
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I love the sound of it.

I'm glad we're going to get to see a more complete Bond in this film. While there is more action I think it's all going to be very exciting (see news about a creat car chase PTS)

I don't know if I'll like the whole "it stars an hour later idea" I really do love to think of the films as seperate entities but I think I can accept it this time. Hell it would have been great if they tied up OHMSS and DAF the way they're tying up CR and QOS.
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Dcbn wrote:I love the sound of it.

I'm glad we're going to get to see a more complete Bond in this film. While there is more action I think it's all going to be very exciting (see news about a creat car chase PTS)

I don't know if I'll like the whole "it stars an hour later idea" I really do love to think of the films as seperate entities but I think I can accept it this time. Hell it would have been great if they tied up OHMSS and DAF the way they're tying up CR and QOS.
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The Sweeney wrote:
Do you think QOS will be worse than CR, Cap'n?
They are copying Jason Bourne by following on from the last movie, which is a mistake as like other critics on this thread, a shift away from the young Bond angle would make things more palatable.

Eon may bring back more staples, such as the gunbarrel, the Bond music, and more action, so it will be psychologically more like a Bond movie. The absence of these in Casino Royale in conjuction with a short, 50 year old guy playing a pre-00 James Bond did take away the Bond feel somewhat.

It still has this man playing Bond, which creates a problem.

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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Do you think QOS will be worse than CR, Cap'n?
They are copying Jason Bourne by following on from the last movie, which is a mistake as like other critics on this thread, a shift away from the young Bond angle would make things more palatable.

Eon may bring back more staples, such as the gunbarrel, the Bond music, and more action, so it will be psychologically more like a Bond movie. The absence of these in Casino Royale in conjuction with a short, 50 year old guy playing a pre-00 James Bond did take away the Bond feel somewhat.

It still has this man playing Bond, which creates a problem.

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But you still didn't answer the question. Are you expecting QOS to be better or worse than CR?
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The Young Bond idea I think was abandoned a while ago. While this is Bond at the beginning, becoming a 00 doesn't come early in life so we didn't have to expect a 20 year old or anything.

Besides IMO Bond is timeless and ageless. the gap between his first mission and has last could be a total of three months for all I care, it's part of why this supposedly 80 year old man is still forking for HM.
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