The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

The Weinstein Company said today that Quentin Tarantino and the cast of his Western shoot-’em-up The Hateful Eight will attend Comic-Con next month with a Hall H presentation set for Saturday, July 11 at 1:30 PM. The presentation will include a discussion with Tarantino and the cast about the film, its roadshow release in 70mm and a promise of new footage...........FBF, you and MP can go to this and discuss Pierce being cast into one of Tarantino's films.

The badges were sold out before I can purchase them. MP, are you going to this summer's comic con? If so, can you do what BJ said about discussing the idea of Pierce being in QT's films to QT himself? Yes, this is a serious note.

You could have DIRECT access to Tarantino through the Q&A session.

[Alessandra]

For those interested in The Man From UNCLE...

I put up one of the first of the UNCLE fan websites, debuting on Dec. 1, 1996. I've had to move it around a couple of times. Here's the home page.

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com/


Here's one section of the site, which details the things that UNCLE and Bond have in common, from Ian Fleming to Henry Cavill:

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com ... ames-bond/


Here's a page that details various unsuccessful attempts to revive UNCLE:

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com ... n-c-l-e-s/

Finally, a recent addition to the site: a timeline of the UNCLE movie that's coming out in August:

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com ... -l-e-2015/

One final note: I was an UNCLE fan first. In November 1965, UNCLE was pre-empted to show the television special The Incredible World of James Bond. That's how I got hooked on Bond. When I read the history of how Broccoli and Saltzman tried to prevent UNCLE from going into production, I chuckle. It's because of UNCLE, I became a 007 fan.

Thank you for all these links AND for the above hilarious anecdote... should I call you HENRY from now on? LOLOL Seriously though, it's highly ironic that they tried to prevent UNCLE from going into production...they KNEW it was going to be a fierce competitor. And even more ironically, now it could be the only way to see an actual James Bond movie.

You are so right about Barbara and her thinking Ale.

It's Hollywood pretentious crap 101: how to convince others you're so original and intellectual when you don't have a tenth of your (insert family connection) talent and you inherit a huge franchise. People who come from huge Hollywood families who founded the business and who DO have talent of their own don't need to pull this crap.

Either way... I am EXTRA proud of Guy Ritchie for those quotes... he really is directing the Bond movie we all want. And what he said is EXACTLY what we want to hear from a good Bond director. The fact he flat out says he wants U.N.C.L.E. to be Connery's Bond in terms of exact atmosphere, elegance and approach is MUSIC to my ears.

[bjmdds]

Let it gross $60 million opening weekend and make a statement to Broccoli.

[FormerBondFan]

The Weinstein Company said today that Quentin Tarantino and the cast of his Western shoot-’em-up The Hateful Eight will attend Comic-Con next month with a Hall H presentation set for Saturday, July 11 at 1:30 PM. The presentation will include a discussion with Tarantino and the cast about the film, its roadshow release in 70mm and a promise of new footage...........FBF, you and MP can go to this and discuss Pierce being cast into one of Tarantino's films.

The badges were sold out before I can purchase them. MP, are you going to this summer's comic con? If so, can you do what BJ said about discussing the idea of Pierce being in QT's films to QT himself? Yes, this is a serious note.

You could have DIRECT access to Tarantino through the Q&A session.

No badges, no entrance.

[Veronica]

Even tough Babs doesn''t have a talent of her father she does know what is valued the most in Hollywood today-deep character analysis and bla bla bla...when was the last time that a movie won an Oscar and didn't have that?
For ex. Arnofsky's Black Swan was mightly praised because of it and immediately pronounced "the best movie in 2010" even though I am sure you could find a better one...but one difference is-while that movie and others of that kind HAVE character analysis Craig movies DO NOT. They are just propaganded like that. What is so character driven in them? I don't see it. I constantly kept reading how Vesper is a complexed character as much as Bond(you mean NOT-BOND?) and then I watched the movie and was like:"Eh?What?". If anything Eva Green's Vesper was a perfect example when the character should impress but just doesn't. And neither QOS and SF were complexed or anything like that. My friend once said how "QOS looks like a compilation of deleted scenes from CR."
And I have to agree. As for SF-well I don't find the blatant copying of several other franchises to be "complexed".
I don't know,I don't find Home Alone to be particulary character-driven story but maybe Babs does...
Bottom line is-to my mind anyway-that marketing did all the heavy lifting...

[John P. Drake]

I have read the leaked script, and the thing is... despite having some of the old Bond attitudes back, the plot and the main villain's main purpose of doing all the stuff he's been acquainted with for long time is bland, lacking creativity and very melodramatic that makes everything fall flat. Skyfall itself is almost the reason I renounced my loyalty and love for the franchise, but there's something from the old movies, the first 20 that is, that keep me back to it. I can't let go, as of yet. And character-driven stories don't belong to the James Bond film franchise, at the slightest. Give me the stoical and humourous modern-day knight (a.k.a. secret agent as it stereotypically stood for in the 1960s), along with all the proper assets (gadgets and allies PLUS the glamourous locations) any day over that boring, drama queen telenovella, geopolitical flicks.

[ml94]

I have read the leaked script, and the thing is... despite having some of the old Bond attitudes back, the plot and the main villain's main purpose of doing all the stuff he's been acquainted with for long time is bland, lacking creativity and very melodramatic that makes everything fall flat. Skyfall itself is almost the reason I renounced my loyalty and love for the franchise, but there's something from the old movies, the first 20 that is, that keep me back to it. I can't let go, as of yet. And character-driven stories don't belong to the James Bond film franchise, at the slightest. Give me the stoical and humourous modern-day knight (a.k.a. secret agent as it stereotypically stood for in the 1960s), along with all the proper assets (gadgets and allies PLUS the glamourous locations) any day over that boring, drama queen telenovella, geopolitical flicks.

I really like your avatar!

[John P. Drake]

I have read the leaked script, and the thing is... despite having some of the old Bond attitudes back, the plot and the main villain's main purpose of doing all the stuff he's been acquainted with for long time is bland, lacking creativity and very melodramatic that makes everything fall flat. Skyfall itself is almost the reason I renounced my loyalty and love for the franchise, but there's something from the old movies, the first 20 that is, that keep me back to it. I can't let go, as of yet. And character-driven stories don't belong to the James Bond film franchise, at the slightest. Give me the stoical and humourous modern-day knight (a.k.a. secret agent as it stereotypically stood for in the 1960s), along with all the proper assets (gadgets and allies PLUS the glamourous locations) any day over that boring, drama queen telenovella, geopolitical flicks.

I really like your avatar!

Lifelong Pierce Brosnan fan, my friend. And a die-hard fan of Remington Steele, too.

[bjmdds]

The plot for ECH-TRE will be deemed moronic after those 'minions' throw out their money seeing it for the first time. Imagine, in 2015, we are 'first being introduced' to SPECTRE, an organization we have already known about for over 50 years, that was behind Quantum, it's tiny branch of terror. How Broccoli gets away with this is "cinematic Bondicide"

[John P. Drake]

The plot for ECH-TRE will be deemed moronic after those 'minions' throw out their money seeing it for the first time. Imagine, in 2015, we are 'first being introduced' to SPECTRE, an organization we have already known about for over 50 years, that was behind Quantum, it's tiny branch of terror. How Broccoli gets away with this is "cinematic Bondicide"

Not only that, BJ. This time, Blofeld is Bond's foster brother who was "ignored by his father" so he decided to make Bond's life miserable, being responsible for the death of M, Vesper and all the rest of tragedies delved into the so-called hero's misadventures.

[bjmdds]

Correct Drakester. This will be a Bond film in name only. It should be a Dr. Phil show instead [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... BxaVUftyH0[/video] Don't be shocked if this garbage does $90-100 million in the USA opening weekend either, for many EON minions turn out for anything they shovel, except Dalton for some reason. After the initial realization that this plot is OFFENDING to the Bond traditionalists' psyche, people will not bother to see it repeatedly to drive up the box office take.

[John P. Drake]

Correct Drakester. This will be a Bond film in name only. It should be a Dr. Phil show instead Don't be shocked if this garbage does $90-100 million in the USA opening weekend either, for many EON minions turn out for anything they shovel, except Dalton for some reason. After the initial realization that this plot is OFFENDING to the Bond traditionalists' psyche, people will not bother to see it repeatedly to drive up the box office take.

Indefinitely. Regardless of the box office success it becomes, and so was the case with Craig's all three so far, I find myself very difficult to revisit them, at all. Even for educational purposes.

[Veronica]

Correct Drakester. This will be a Bond film in name only. It should be a Dr. Phil show instead Don't be shocked if this garbage does $90-100 million in the USA opening weekend either, for many EON minions turn out for anything they shovel, except Dalton for some reason. After the initial realization that this plot is OFFENDING to the Bond traditionalists' psyche, people will not bother to see it repeatedly to drive up the box office take.

Indefinitely. Regardless of the box office success it becomes, and so was the case with Craig's all three so far, I find myself very difficult to revisit them, at all. Even for educational purposes.

and what educational purposes are there?
And I have to say you avatar is great!

[bjmdds]

Current estimates from Saturday cash drawers show Universal’s Jurassic World with a slight edge over Disney-Pixar’s Inside Out for No. 1. JW is looking to bring in $54.7M-$55.2M at 4,198 theaters while IO is eyeing $53.5M-$54M at 4,132. If JW hits the low end of its current estimate, it will cross $500M in a record 17 days. JW made more than IO on Saturday, $22M-$23.5M vs. $21M-$23M.

[John P. Drake]

Correct Drakester. This will be a Bond film in name only. It should be a Dr. Phil show instead Don't be shocked if this garbage does $90-100 million in the USA opening weekend either, for many EON minions turn out for anything they shovel, except Dalton for some reason. After the initial realization that this plot is OFFENDING to the Bond traditionalists' psyche, people will not bother to see it repeatedly to drive up the box office take.

Indefinitely. Regardless of the box office success it becomes, and so was the case with Craig's all three so far, I find myself very difficult to revisit them, at all. Even for educational purposes.

and what educational purposes are there?
And I have to say you avatar is great!

The accuracy of "realism" in the stories, the portrayal of MI6 etc... Good grief, I never realized the British secret service could be underdogs... And the fact they employ an agent (who also happens to be their 'best') who is as competent as a whiny schoolboy.

And thank you, Brosnan is indefinitely the best Bond, on par with Sean Connery and Roger Moore.

[bjmdds]

Not in Broccoli's eyes. She dismissed him like a dog.

[Napoleon Solo]

re: Eon trying to stop The Man From UNCLE....that refers to the original television show.

Ian Fleming was involved with the development of the show from October 1962 until June 1963. He was never going to do the heavy lifting, but NBC was willing to air the series without a pilot because of Fleming's involvement.

Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman pressured Fleming to exit the TV show. He did, signing away his rights for 1 British pound. You can read the text here. There's an UNCLE documentary on the DVDs. I froze the screen and copied down the text of the letter.

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... -e-rights/

The pilot was filmed in November 1963 as Solo. Eon claimed that violated their Goldfinger rights (recall the gangster named Solo) and threatened legal action. Everything was settled with the show changing its title to The Man From UNCLE. Broccoli, in his autobiography, still took potshots at the show.

The thing is: The Incredible World of James Bond and Welcome to Japan, Mr. Bond, two specials promoting the films aired in UNCLE's time slot on NBC. Presumably, Eon didn't complain about the exposure.

[FormerBondFan]

I think it's time for you guys to throw in the towel (which I have already done when Pierce was dismissed in October 2004) and that the traditional tall dark-haired Bond is no longer relevant. Based on this article, it's time to send in the freaks and weirdos as Bond #7+.

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/62482 ... -until.htm

[Veronica]

Correct Drakester. This will be a Bond film in name only. It should be a Dr. Phil show instead Don't be shocked if this garbage does $90-100 million in the USA opening weekend either, for many EON minions turn out for anything they shovel, except Dalton for some reason. After the initial realization that this plot is OFFENDING to the Bond traditionalists' psyche, people will not bother to see it repeatedly to drive up the box office take.

Indefinitely. Regardless of the box office success it becomes, and so was the case with Craig's all three so far, I find myself very difficult to revisit them, at all. Even for educational purposes.

and what educational purposes are there?
And I have to say you avatar is great!

The accuracy of "realism" in the stories, the portrayal of MI6 etc... Good grief, I never realized the British secret service could be underdogs... And the fact they employ an agent (who also happens to be their 'best') who is as competent as a whiny schoolboy.

And thank you, Brosnan is indefinitely the best Bond, on par with Sean Connery and Roger Moore.

I agree. I mean the potrayal of MI6 in Skyfall was particulary...urgh. I mean he doesn't pass any tests and she let's him on a mission. I don't know-maybe that's realistic in Babs' mind? And the head of MI6 hidden in an empty house with three explosives without any real protection...good God. Realistic

[bjmdds]

I think it's time for you guys to throw in the towel (which I have already done when Pierce was dismissed in October 2004) and that the traditional tall dark-haired Bond is no longer relevant. Based on this article, it's time to send in the freaks and weirdos as Bond #7+.

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/62482 ... -until.htm

Daniel Craig has decided not to retire the role of James Bond for another five years. According to a recent Sony Spokesperson Craig will fulfill his contract. The spokesperson said in an interview with the Daily Star, "Daniel has assured us he will fulfill his contract." The contract is currently until 2020, which could mean that Craig has one or two films to complete before his term expires. Someone get ALE in here to verify this. IF it's true, FBF is correct It's time to move on FBF, will you join me in officially pronouncing the end of the franchise as we knew it, because 14 years of Cr-egg is more than any here can tolerate? Will you give us the "high sign" to order 66 to the franchise and to proceed with the disconnect?