The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

To say how unattractive or craggy faced or unBondian he looks wont change a d**n thing. So why bother.

It's called having a view.

True.........but unfortunately for you guys, it means nowt at the end of the day.

You never know in the future you may even begin to like the new style
of Bond films with Craig.

If not you'll all be old timers before there is a change in the lead role.

Sorry.........but its called reality.

EA

Why does it concern you so much? If you are a Bond fan who loves Craig you can go over to MI6 and discuss him happily with others. If you are a Bond fan and can't stand Craig you can come here and chat to people with a similar opinion. Why do you even bother coming here? Why does it get to you so much that not all James Bond fans approve of Daniel Craig, and that just as some see him as the saviour of Bond others see him as the nadir.

We should have a sign on here. It could read: Don't feed the trolls.

[james stock]

i think Craig is miscast (i have said it to death) he maybe a very affable bloke i have no ill feeling toward him in that respect. He didnt win me over in confrences before hand but perhaps he didnt realise the frenzied interest and thought it was just another part. But the telling thing is when his name was mentioned to the casting director she seemed extreamly skeptical which speaks volumes.

[The Sweeney]

i think Craig is miscast (i have said it to death) he maybe a very affable bloke i have no ill feeling toward him in that respect. He didnt win me over in confrences before hand but perhaps he didnt realise the frenzied interest and thought it was just another part. But the telling thing is when his name was mentioned to the casting director she seemed extreamly skeptical which speaks volumes.

It's all old news now. Craig has won over most of his original critics. It's fair to say, with CR Craig came out on top and won, and the hate campaign lost.....

[Skywalker]

...............I just knew my 'Sid James' comment would hook some of you!

Looks like i was right!!!!

And so was I. The likeness is so true.

PS: If Craig is that ugly in the role of Bond.........How come this fact has only been observed by a handful of people on this website, and not the
worldwide population???

It's called taste or lack of in your case.

[English Agent]

To say how unattractive or craggy faced or unBondian he looks wont change a d**n thing. So why bother.

It's called having a view.

True.........but unfortunately for you guys, it means nowt at the end of the day.

You never know in the future you may even begin to like the new style
of Bond films with Craig.

If not you'll all be old timers before there is a change in the lead role.

Sorry.........but its called reality.

EA

Why does it concern you so much? If you are a Bond fan who loves Craig you can go over to MI6 and discuss him happily with others. If you are a Bond fan and can't stand Craig you can come here and chat to people with a similar opinion. Why do you even bother coming here? Why does it get to you so much that not all James Bond fans approve of Daniel Craig, and that just as some see him as the saviour of Bond others see him as the nadir.

We should have a sign on here. It could read: Don't feed the trolls.

Believe it or not..................the reason i post here is because for some weird reason i actually find it fun.
I got bored with the forums at CBn as it is so vast that many topics get
repeated, and the mods there are like school prefects.
Mi6 is Ok but i havn't posted there regularly for sometime.

If us pro-craigers didn't post here there wouldn't be much discussion
here as you havn't yet got the number of members yet to keep a
decent flow of threads going...............just look at the number of
posts from 'The Sweeney' and 'Captain Nash', plus i think you guys would get bored only talking about Craig amongst yourselves.

So to sum it all up, i'am probably as crazy as you guys!

Your favourite troll!! EA

[English Agent]

...............I just knew my 'Sid James' comment would hook some of you!

Looks like i was right!!!!

And so was I. The likeness is so true.

PS: If Craig is that ugly in the role of Bond.........How come this fact has only been observed by a handful of people on this website, and not the
worldwide population???

It's called taste or lack of in your case.

Taste! Eh! What are you trying to say Mr Skywalker.

Look.. Mr Craig may not be the tall dark handsome chap that you
want your Bond to be, but he aint no Quasimodo either!!

[Skywalker]

...............I just knew my 'Sid James' comment would hook some of you!

Looks like i was right!!!!

And so was I. The likeness is so true.

PS: If Craig is that ugly in the role of Bond.........How come this fact has only been observed by a handful of people on this website, and not the
worldwide population???

It's called taste or lack of in your case.

Taste! Eh! What are you trying to say Mr Skywalker.

Look.. Mr Craig may not be the tall dark handsome chap that you
want your Bond to be, but he aint no Quasimodo either!!

Shame! cause given his acting skills I think he'd make a great one.

[English Agent]

You are cruel!!

..............I just knew you'd post a picture 'Skywalker',
u didn't let me down.

EA

[bjmdds]

It's called having a view.

True.........but unfortunately for you guys, it means nowt at the end of the day.

You never know in the future you may even begin to like the new style
of Bond films with Craig.

If not you'll all be old timers before there is a change in the lead role.

Sorry.........but its called reality.

EA

Why does it concern you so much? If you are a Bond fan who loves Craig you can go over to MI6 and discuss him happily with others. If you are a Bond fan and can't stand Craig you can come here and chat to people with a similar opinion. Why do you even bother coming here? Why does it get to you so much that not all James Bond fans approve of Daniel Craig, and that just as some see him as the saviour of Bond others see him as the nadir.

We should have a sign on here. It could read: Don't feed the trolls.

Believe it or not..................the reason i post here is because for some weird reason i actually find it fun.
I got bored with the forums at CBn as it is so vast that many topics get
repeated, and the mods there are like school prefects.
Mi6 is Ok but i havn't posted there regularly for sometime.

If us pro-craigers didn't post here there wouldn't be much discussion
here as you havn't yet got the number of members yet to keep a
decent flow of threads going...............just look at the number of
posts from 'The Sweeney' and 'Captain Nash', plus i think you guys would get bored only talking about Craig amongst yourselves.

So to sum it all up, i'am probably as crazy as you guys!

Your favourite troll!! EA

All should be welcome on all forums EA. Cb.net and MI6 are not as tolerant of opposing views as this forum is. No Bond websites are perfect, but this one's title defines it's purpose and is as open as I have seen, agree EA? You like Craig as Bond,yet even you find those other forums tedious, and that speaks volumes.

[bjmdds]

...............I just knew my 'Sid James' comment would hook some of you!

Looks like i was right!!!!

And so was I. The likeness is so true.

PS: If Craig is that ugly in the role of Bond.........How come this fact has only been observed by a handful of people on this website, and not the
worldwide population???

It's called taste or lack of in your case.

Taste! Eh! What are you trying to say Mr Skywalker.

Look.. Mr Craig may not be the tall dark handsome chap that you
want your Bond to be, but he aint no Quasimodo either!!

Shame! cause given his acting skills I think he'd make a great one.

Sanctuary! That is what this forum is for traditionalist Bond fans. You are a riot young Skywalker!

[bjmdds]

i think Craig is miscast (i have said it to death) he maybe a very affable bloke i have no ill feeling toward him in that respect. He didnt win me over in confrences before hand but perhaps he didnt realise the frenzied interest and thought it was just another part. But the telling thing is when his name was mentioned to the casting director she seemed extreamly skeptical which speaks volumes.

It's all old news now. Craig has won over most of his original critics. It's fair to say, with CR Craig came out on top and won, and the hate campaign lost.....

The 'hate' campaign contributed to the success of CR with DC. Now he is on his own merit, no hooplah, no fanfare, so let us see how Craig does round two Sweeney. Do you believe Bond 22 will outdo TBU in the USA?

[The Sweeney]

i think Craig is miscast (i have said it to death) he maybe a very affable bloke i have no ill feeling toward him in that respect. He didnt win me over in confrences before hand but perhaps he didnt realise the frenzied interest and thought it was just another part. But the telling thing is when his name was mentioned to the casting director she seemed extreamly skeptical which speaks volumes.

It's all old news now. Craig has won over most of his original critics. It's fair to say, with CR Craig came out on top and won, and the hate campaign lost.....

The 'hate' campaign contributed to the success of CR with DC. Now he is on his own merit, no hooplah, no fanfare, so let us see how Craig does round two Sweeney. Do you believe Bond 22 will outdo TBU in the USA?

I think 22 will outdo TBU worldwide, but I doubt in the USA.

[bjmdds]

Will Bond 22 outdo CR worldwide Sweeney?Which do you enjoy more, the Fleming books or the Eon movies,for Bond?

[The Sweeney]

Will Bond 22 outdo CR worldwide Sweeney?

I think so, yes.

[English Agent]

i think Craig is miscast (i have said it to death) he maybe a very affable bloke i have no ill feeling toward him in that respect. He didnt win me over in confrences before hand but perhaps he didnt realise the frenzied interest and thought it was just another part. But the telling thing is when his name was mentioned to the casting director she seemed extreamly skeptical which speaks volumes.

It's all old news now. Craig has won over most of his original critics. It's fair to say, with CR Craig came out on top and won, and the hate campaign lost.....

The 'hate' campaign contributed to the success of CR with DC. Now he is on his own merit, no hooplah, no fanfare, so let us see how Craig does round two Sweeney. Do you believe Bond 22 will outdo TBU in the USA?

I think 22 will outdo TBU worldwide, but I doubt in the USA.

I agree 'Sweeney'

I dont think Bond will ever reach the boxoffice stellar heights of TB during
its theatical run in 1965-66.
Bond is not new now, but its amazing that it still pulls decent boxoffice in
markets which are used to more recent action film franchises.

As i have an interest in the financial side of films, i would guess that Bond 22 would not do a significant increase in business in the North American market over CR. Generally there, Bond has had an audience of around 25 million admissions.
Canadian Bond fans have gone out of their way to point out to me
that they contribute more to Bond films $/person than thier US cousins.

One big advantage that Bond 22 has over the previous Bond films recently
released in the Autumn (or should i say the Fall), is that it is being released a little earlier in November, before the other studios release their
big films before Thanksgiving.........therefore giving Bond 22 a full week to itself to earn big bucks before the public is distracted by other films such as the next Harry Potter instalment.

I think a figure of around 175-200 mil would be a good guesstimate for
Bond 22 in the North American market.

In Europe, however, in particular the powerful rich nations in the West,
i can see nothing but a decent improvement in BO.

In the UK i can easily see another $100+ BO.

Bond has had quite a reassurgence in the UK ever since PB took over the
mantle of Bond in GE in 1995..............and despite the quality of the scripts deteriating during PB's tenure as Bond, each subsequent film did
better business than its predecesor.

All this is pure supposition though, as it really depends on the quality of
the next Bond film, and DC's new audience which he added to the traditional Bond fans.

Hopefully the next film is a cracker, and even though our friends here have not taken to Craig as BOND...........i hope they find something to enjoy in the next film.

BTW, 'BJ' as an American what can you forsee for Bond 22 in your homeland, if the film Bond 22 is any good.

Regards: EA

[bjmdds]

If Bond 22 drops off substantially from CR, will you attribute that to the storyline, Craig, or the lack of controversy suurounding the,as yet untitled,new film?

[The Sweeney]

If Bond 22 drops off substantially from CR, will you attribute that to the storyline, Craig, or the lack of controversy suurounding the,as yet untitled,new film?

It all depends on the film itself. If the film sucks, but Craig is good, then I guess this may affect BO takings, and likewise, if the film is great but Craig sucks. I guess its hard to say until the film comes out.

[bjmdds]

i think Craig is miscast (i have said it to death) he maybe a very affable bloke i have no ill feeling toward him in that respect. He didnt win me over in confrences before hand but perhaps he didnt realise the frenzied interest and thought it was just another part. But the telling thing is when his name was mentioned to the casting director she seemed extreamly skeptical which speaks volumes.

It's all old news now. Craig has won over most of his original critics. It's fair to say, with CR Craig came out on top and won, and the hate campaign lost.....

The 'hate' campaign contributed to the success of CR with DC. Now he is on his own merit, no hooplah, no fanfare, so let us see how Craig does round two Sweeney. Do you believe Bond 22 will outdo TBU in the USA?

I think 22 will outdo TBU worldwide, but I doubt in the USA.

I agree 'Sweeney'

I dont think Bond will ever reach the boxoffice stellar heights of TB during
its theatical run in 1965-66.
Bond is not new now, but its amazing that it still pulls decent boxoffice in
markets which are used to more recent action film franchises.

As i have an interest in the financial side of films, i would guess that Bond 22 would not do a significant increase in business in the North American market over CR. Generally there, Bond has had an audience of around 25 million admissions.
Canadian Bond fans have gone out of their way to point out to me
that they contribute more to Bond films $/person than thier US cousins.

One big advantage that Bond 22 has over the previous Bond films recently
released in the Autumn (or should i say the Fall), is that it is being released a little earlier in November, before the other studios release their
big films before Thanksgiving.........therefore giving Bond 22 a full week to itself to earn big bucks before the public is distracted by other films such as the next Harry Potter instalment.

I think a figure of around 175-200 mil would be a good guesstimate for
Bond 22 in the North American market.

In Europe, however, in particular the powerful rich nations in the West,
i can see nothing but a decent improvement in BO.

In the UK i can easily see another $100+ BO.

Bond has had quite a reassurgence in the UK ever since PB took over the
mantle of Bond in GE in 1995..............and despite the quality of the scripts deteriating during PB's tenure as Bond, each subsequent film did
better business than its predecesor.

All this is pure supposition though, as it really depends on the quality of
the next Bond film, and DC's new audience which he added to the traditional Bond fans.

Hopefully the next film is a cracker, and even though our friends here have not taken to Craig as BOND...........i hope they find something to enjoy in the next film.

BTW, 'BJ' as an American what can you forsee for Bond 22 in your homeland, if the film Bond 22 is any good.

Regards: EA

In the USA I really expect a drop off from the $167 million CR did here. A lot of people I know did see CR, who could care less about Bond per se, and did not like Craig at all nor the reboot idea. The USA critics just went ga-ga over a newer Bond but most of them never took Bond seriously anyway. If Bond 22 outdoes CR in the USA, it will be surprising to me, and if it does not at least equal the UK mark, I will also be surprised. IF the UK underperforms at the box office, that will be a leading indicator of the next film's success, or lack of.

[bjmdds]

This is Haggis' view of what Bond should be. Do you agree? I do not. http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=36631 This mindset is the great divide amongst our fandom.

Sweeney and EA. Read Haggis' thoughts on Bond and tell me if your vision of Bond jives with what he wants to do.

[English Agent]

It's all old news now. Craig has won over most of his original critics. It's fair to say, with CR Craig came out on top and won, and the hate campaign lost.....

The 'hate' campaign contributed to the success of CR with DC. Now he is on his own merit, no hooplah, no fanfare, so let us see how Craig does round two Sweeney. Do you believe Bond 22 will outdo TBU in the USA?

I think 22 will outdo TBU worldwide, but I doubt in the USA.

I agree 'Sweeney'

I dont think Bond will ever reach the boxoffice stellar heights of TB during
its theatical run in 1965-66.
Bond is not new now, but its amazing that it still pulls decent boxoffice in
markets which are used to more recent action film franchises.

As i have an interest in the financial side of films, i would guess that Bond 22 would not do a significant increase in business in the North American market over CR. Generally there, Bond has had an audience of around 25 million admissions.
Canadian Bond fans have gone out of their way to point out to me
that they contribute more to Bond films $/person than thier US cousins.

One big advantage that Bond 22 has over the previous Bond films recently
released in the Autumn (or should i say the Fall), is that it is being released a little earlier in November, before the other studios release their
big films before Thanksgiving.........therefore giving Bond 22 a full week to itself to earn big bucks before the public is distracted by other films such as the next Harry Potter instalment.

I think a figure of around 175-200 mil would be a good guesstimate for
Bond 22 in the North American market.

In Europe, however, in particular the powerful rich nations in the West,
i can see nothing but a decent improvement in BO.

In the UK i can easily see another $100+ BO.

Bond has had quite a reassurgence in the UK ever since PB took over the
mantle of Bond in GE in 1995..............and despite the quality of the scripts deteriating during PB's tenure as Bond, each subsequent film did
better business than its predecesor.

All this is pure supposition though, as it really depends on the quality of
the next Bond film, and DC's new audience which he added to the traditional Bond fans.

Hopefully the next film is a cracker, and even though our friends here have not taken to Craig as BOND...........i hope they find something to enjoy in the next film.

BTW, 'BJ' as an American what can you forsee for Bond 22 in your homeland, if the film Bond 22 is any good.

Regards: EA

In the USA I really expect a drop off from the $167 million CR did here. A lot of people I know did see CR, who could care less about Bond per se, and did not like Craig at all nor the reboot idea. The USA critics just went ga-ga over a newer Bond but most of them never took Bond seriously anyway. If Bond 22 outdoes CR in the USA, it will be surprising to me, and if it does not at least equal the UK mark, I will also be surprised. IF the UK underperforms at the box office, that will be a leading indicator of the next film's success, or lack of.

I agree, if Bond 22 does poorly in the UK that would be a very bad sign
for the producers............but personally i think the film would have to suck
for that to be the case.