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Fakhrul wrote:Yeah, Alessandra. I get what you talk. But it's not hollywood alone. Virtually everyone in the world need to be PC, even when it's ridiculous. What's worse is thanks to ADD induced movies and gadgets, we now live in the world where no one bothered to read the whole story. My suggestion earlier? Forget about it. You're right. Some people would skip the whole story and just grabbed the "Brosnan didn't think that black actors are good enough to become James Bond!" line. Like that Nike ad where Barkley said that parents should be the role model, not him.
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If Durant did something like that, someone would try to burn his house.
EXACTLY. That was exactly my point. What did people expect Brosnan to do? Of course he answered that way, no one wants to be called a racist because they don't approve of a colleague who is black, and that's definitely what would have happened.

Also, Kristatos, exactly. He talked about Colin Salmon well before he was asked about Elba, so it's clear that he generally doesn't have a problem with a black Bond. Again, I could see Colin Salmon in the role. NOT Idris Elba. (Provided I am not in favor of turning Bond black because being WASP is an essential trait of the character).

Meantime and by the way... Man from U.N.C.L.E. is past 1 million views. KNEW IT! :mrgreen:
He really couldn't say anything different. Imo he's gone roger Moore mode because he's back on good terms with the Eon. He's not going to say anything negative about the series except to make fun of him self.

This from the man who was angry until 2012 and made his own spy movie to get even.
I'd be for Elba as M or d**n Near anything else he had a cool factor Craig can't touch.



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I know you guys are not going to agree with me, but having a look at the photo shoot in Rome yesterday, Craig probably looks the best I've seen him as Bond. He looks far better than he did in SF with that ugly skinhead, and is it me, or is he actually ageing far better than previous actors who have played Bond?

He seems to look as young as he did 10 years ago in CR. I don't recall any of the other actors ageing this well (particularly Connery in DAF). You could argue that he already looked old when he first played Bond back in 2006.... :lol:

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The Sweeney wrote:I know you guys are not going to agree with me, but having a look at the photo shoot in Rome yesterday, Craig probably looks the best I've seen him as Bond. He looks far better than he did in SF with that ugly skinhead, and is it me, or is he actually ageing far better than previous actors who have played Bond?

He seems to look as young as he did 10 years ago in CR. I don't recall any of the other actors ageing this well (particularly Connery in DAF). You could argue that he already looked old when he first played Bond back in 2006.... :lol:

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It's the lighting. It hide his wrinkles. Just look on shaded face- the wrinkles are there, and i still think that he looks like Harrison Ford post-2000s.
Also, he's obviously in some kind of make up. His skin looks too smooth to be true.
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He looks better than sf but greasy for some reason. In looking on my phone so it's not a full screen pic to me


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If we look at Connery in 1962, then compare to 1971 (the same period as Craig from CR to SPECTRE), and then Moore in LALD and then in AVTAK, you can see the difference....

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Here is one in more natural light on the set of Spectre. He looks about 70.

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John Drake wrote:Here is one in more natural light on the set of Spectre. He looks about 70.

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He's still aged the best out of all the Bond's though. He looked 70 in CR, and he still looks 70 now... :lol:
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:lol:
He never looked like a young agent.
Not quite fair to compare Connery and Moore beginning and end of bond to Craig's.
Do you think this is Craig's last?

Wasn't more older than Craig when he got the role?

What did Connery and more look like in their fourth movie?

Anyway I think dalton and Brosnan aged the best, maybe Lazenby but we only have the one film


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Omega wrote::lol:
He never looked like a young agent.
Not quite fair to compare Connery and Moore beginning and end of bond to Craig's.
Do you think this is Craig's last?

Wasn't more older than Craig when he got the role?

What did Connery and more look like in their fourth movie?

Anyway I think dalton and Brosnan aged the best, maybe Lazenby but we only have the one film


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It's not about 4th movies, but about years passed. Connery from 62 is compared to 71 (the same period from CR to SPECTRE). Connery's 4th film was only 4 years later (hard to believe now, I know).

Moore's same period is actually LALD to OP, not AVTAK (my mistake). But he still looks far older in OP than he did in LALD.

Dalton and Lazenby, well I'm not sure how they looked 10 years after they left Bond. But yes, I agree, Brosnan aged well too.
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Dalton in 1997 (from 'The Informant')
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If (that's if), he had the audience which Brosnan had, there was no reason that Dalton could have gone through till DAD. He hardly aged, but I couldn't imagine Dalton staying for 15 years.
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Yes, Dalton definitely aged well. Shame he didn't do a few more Bond films.
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2 more films would have been enough for me (and about as much as I imagine Dalton would have done, unless EON has the rights to CR, to tempt him back for a 5th). Brosnan could still have taken over in 1995.
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Denofgeek: Earlier this year, it was revealed that a sequel was in the early stages for the new Pierce Brosnan action thriller, The November Man. Remember it? Probably not: The November Man would go on to flop in the US, grossing just $25m, and when it finally made it to British cinemas, it was released on just one screen (presumably to fill a contractual obligation somewhere along the line). There's been no word yet on the fate of The November Man 2, but the outlook does not seem favorable. It wouldn't be the first time though that a sequel had been loudly mooted before even a first film was released, only to be quietly abandoned when something - usually related to box office takings - didn't go to plan.
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bjmdds wrote:Denofgeek: Earlier this year, it was revealed that a sequel was in the early stages for the new Pierce Brosnan action thriller, The November Man. Remember it? Probably not: The November Man would go on to flop in the US, grossing just $25m, and when it finally made it to British cinemas, it was released on just one screen (presumably to fill a contractual obligation somewhere along the line).
I thought it was more than that, around a dozen screens, IIRC. I know it only played on one screen here in Bristol - I can't imagine that was the only screen in the whole country, though.
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TMZ:Pierce Brosnan sounded panicked and out of breath when he called 911 to report his Malibu house was on fire -- and worried one of his cars was about to explode. As was reported ... Brosnan's garage went up in flames last week and when he called 911 you can hear him screaming at someone -- most likely his wife -- to stay away from a car. Mrs. 007, Keely Shaye Smith ... also called 911 and said, "I've got to go because I don't wanna get blown up." Police say they still don't know what caused the fire and the investigation is ongoing. Image [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... _F41XltAaw[/video]
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Kristatos wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Denofgeek: Earlier this year, it was revealed that a sequel was in the early stages for the new Pierce Brosnan action thriller, The November Man. Remember it? Probably not: The November Man would go on to flop in the US, grossing just $25m, and when it finally made it to British cinemas, it was released on just one screen (presumably to fill a contractual obligation somewhere along the line).
I thought it was more than that, around a dozen screens, IIRC. I know it only played on one screen here in Bristol - I can't imagine that was the only screen in the whole country, though.
It only did $14,862 in all of the UK so maybe they are correct? I still cannot assess the mindset to release it so poorly in the UK. It made no sense. It should have made $10 million in the UK, not the paltry, embarrassing and shocking amount it did there.
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Kristatos wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Denofgeek: Earlier this year, it was revealed that a sequel was in the early stages for the new Pierce Brosnan action thriller, The November Man. Remember it? Probably not: The November Man would go on to flop in the US, grossing just $25m, and when it finally made it to British cinemas, it was released on just one screen (presumably to fill a contractual obligation somewhere along the line).
I thought it was more than that, around a dozen screens, IIRC. I know it only played on one screen here in Bristol - I can't imagine that was the only screen in the whole country, though.
It only did $14,862 in all of the UK so maybe they are correct? I still cannot assess the mindset to release it so poorly in the UK. It made no sense. It should have made $10 million in the UK, not the paltry, embarrassing and shocking amount it did there.
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bjmdds wrote:It only did $14,862 in all of the UK so maybe they are correct? I still cannot assess the mindset to release it so poorly in the UK. It made no sense. It should have made $10 million in the UK, not the paltry, embarrassing and shocking amount it did there.
If it only played on one screen in the whole country, I would have thought that screen would be in London. The film received virtually no publicity here, so it's quite possible that it only made around $1000 per screen. I've been in cinemas where I'm the only person there before now.
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bjmdds wrote:TMZ:Pierce Brosnan sounded panicked and out of breath when he called 911 to report his Malibu house was on fire -- and worried one of his cars was about to explode. As was reported ... Brosnan's garage went up in flames last week and when he called 911 you can hear him screaming at someone -- most likely his wife -- to stay away from a car. Mrs. 007, Keely Shaye Smith ... also called 911 and said, "I've got to go because I don't wanna get blown up." Police say they still don't know what caused the fire and the investigation is ongoing. Image [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... _F41XltAaw[/video]
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