The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

Interesting that the tagline on the latest UNCLE poster is something like "Meet a higher class of spy".

[Alessandra]

This could be his official foray into the Bond role

Or as close as he is going to get. He might be tall dark and handsome, but that isn't enough, Cavill lacks that certain something, an edge. Connery had in his first two, Lazenby had it, and Dalton had it. Cavill just doesn't. But I hope U.C.L.E is a hit, just to keep Cavill well away from Bond. We don't need Brosnan MK 2.

First off, I completely disagree with your statement that Cavill lacks edge. You clearly haven't seen his movies or his acting. If there's a thing he doesn't lack, it's edge. And watching "The Tudors" is enough to see that for anyone who has discernment. And on top of that, he is tall, dark, handsome and he has EXACTLY the PERFECT James Bond attitude. Not just on camera but in real life, too. Second, "WE"DO need another Brosnan in the role because he was fantastic, and the best we've had after Connery as far as I'm concerned. I don't speak for others, you shouldn't either. YOU don't want him, not WE or the fandom. The fact you dislike and take jabs at Brosnan tells me everything I need to know. I don't know why people put up with your constant insulting of Cavill that is based on nothing but your own personal rooted dislike, cause none of the points you make about him are actually motivated... and you're doing it when he is clearly the favorite and not just around here. But I am done with it. I've read your posts and ignored them mostly, now making a ridiculous claim about him lacking edge made me speak, and using "WE" to try and put Cavill AND Brosnan down, when you are speaking for yourself and yourself only and not in the name of anyone else was the last straw.

And by the way, Cavill was the most popular choice when Craig was instead chosen, on forums that are full of Craig fanboys, too. I don't know why you feel the need to make false statements about Cavill to put him down. It's out there in writing for everyone to see, all it takes is checking. What's certain is that Cavill is DEFINITELY a very popular choice, and even random people on the internet of freaking course see him as James Bond... because HE IS James Bond. It's that simple. If you don't like him, well too bad. This isn't the place to insult Cavill. Not this forum. He is the perfect actor for the role, on that there is no doubt, and people in this forum are most definitely not the only ones saying so. I could show you hundreds of Twitter and Tumblr posts saying the same thing. Which by the way shows how popular he is broadly, and not just among James Bond fans. He has the EXACT quality it takes to be Bond. That quality that Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan had. I'm pretty sure that Dalton would be horrified seeing one of his fans speak this way about Cavill, literally making excuses up that are completely groundless. Especially considering that Dalton LOVES Henry Cavill. Oh, you didn't know that? Go check with your favorite. Surprise!

[Alessandra]

Interesting that the tagline on the latest UNCLE poster is something like "Meet a higher class of spy".

Well they're smart. And now they have a trailer that backs that claim up. They're not gonna pretend they don't have what they have. Very interesting indeed.

[James]

The famously hard to please fanboys at AIC are impressed so far...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/70353

"Looks like a lot of fun, and Cavill might be more than just a square jaw. Well done, I'm interested."

"so Cavill is the new James Bond right?? after Craig of course...."

"Cavill's got just the right amount of swagger to nail the role of Bond."

"Back when Craig got it, Cavill definitely would've been too young. He's 31 now, entering prime 007 years(depending on how young they want to start with their next one)."

"This looks great from what I've seen..and whoever mentiond Cavill for Bond after Craig I think it's a great choice.."

"When did Cavill get swagger? God d**n."

"Cavil for bond after craig..."

"I was surprised as well to how well Cavill measured up in this trailer. His Superman was pretty wooden, frankly, and I'm not sure why, since he obviously has personality and charisma on tap."

"Now we finally get a "James Bond" film......looks good..."

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

This could be his official foray into the Bond role

Or as close as he is going to get. He might be tall dark and handsome, but that isn't enough, Cavill lacks that certain something, an edge. Connery had in his first two, Lazenby had it, and Dalton had it. Cavill just doesn't. But I hope U.C.L.E is a hit, just to keep Cavill well away from Bond. We don't need Brosnan MK 2.

First off, I completely disagree with your statement that Cavill lacks edge. You clearly haven't seen his movies or his acting. If there's a thing he doesn't lack, it's edge. And watching "The Tudors" is enough to see that for anyone who has discernment. And on top of that, he is tall, dark, handsome and he has EXACTLY the PERFECT James Bond attitude. Not just on camera but in real life, too. Second, "WE"DO need another Brosnan in the role because he was fantastic, and the best we've had after Connery as far as I'm concerned. I don't speak for others, you shouldn't either. YOU don't want him, not WE or the fandom. The fact you dislike and take jabs at Brosnan tells me everything I need to know. I don't know why people put up with your constant insulting of Cavill that is based on nothing but your own personal rooted dislike, cause none of the points you make about him are actually motivated... and you're doing it when he is clearly the favorite and not just around here. But I am done with it. I've read your posts and ignored them mostly, now making a ridiculous claim about him lacking edge made me speak, and using "WE" to try and put Cavill AND Brosnan down, when you are speaking for yourself and yourself only and not in the name of anyone else was the last straw.

And by the way, Cavill was the most popular choice when Craig was instead chosen, on forums that are full of Craig fanboys, too. I don't know why you feel the need to make false statements about Cavill to put him down. It's out there in writing for everyone to see, all it takes is checking. What's certain is that Cavill is DEFINITELY a very popular choice, and even random people on the internet of freaking course see him as James Bond... because HE IS James Bond. It's that simple. If you don't like him, well too bad. This isn't the place to insult Cavill. Not this forum. He is the perfect actor for the role, on that there is no doubt, and people in this forum are most definitely not the only ones saying so. I could show you hundreds of Twitter and Tumblr posts saying the same thing. Which by the way shows how popular he is broadly, and not just among James Bond fans. He has the EXACT quality it takes to be Bond. That quality that Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan had. I'm pretty sure that Dalton would be horrified seeing one of his fans speak this way about Cavill, literally making excuses up that are completely groundless. Especially considering that Dalton LOVES Henry Cavill. Oh, you didn't know that? Go check with your favorite. Surprise!

Wow... ok. Nothing I have said about Cavill comes anywhere close to the vitirol that has been flung at Craig. If you think that, then you are deluded. And do you think Brosnan would be horrified at the way that some of his fans have spoken about Craig? Far worse has been said about Craig, than I have said about Cavill. I have merely voiced an opinion about how I don't think Cavill would be a good Bond. That is nothing compared to the attitude some have towards Craig. Thank about that, before you start ranting at me.

This might sound rich coming from someone who doesn't like Craig. But for me, it hasn't been personal. I am not butt hurt at my favourite Bond being replaced by one I deem lesser. Disappointed? Yes. And at the time of writing this post, this forum isn't a Henry Cavill worship forum. So if it is ok with you, I would to express an alternative opinion, while it's still allowed.

[Kristatos]

That works both ways. You can voice your opinion about Cavill, but don't be surprised when others do the same.

[Blowfeld]

I believe Daniel and Pierce would be upset by the vitriol if they could be bothered to read it. It is human nature especially on the internet and some of it was fostered by the corporations making money off the series. Controversy = attention.
Honestly Daniel should probably thank the maker there was a CNB to uses as a villain to help change the media narrative.

While we take the piss out of Daniel's glorious coronation and and each glorious movie, it's mostly tongue in cheek and nothing compared to the vitriol including threats to our person we received for daring to oppose the status quo. Most of that is water under the bridge now. At least it is for me.

I like Henry, however, I find it hard to believe he would get the role. Possibly because over the many long years as Bond fan I've had my hopes raised and dashed so many times.
I can see why some think he is too much a "pretty boy", or lacks the substance to make a truly great 007. I'm not sure he how he would be as 007, most of it will come down to EON and where they are going to take Bond.

Watching television around 2005 2006, Robin Hood I think it was, there were several relatively unknown actors who I thought give them training a decent suit and they would be a good Bond. We have plenty of potentials out there if only the people doing the hiring have a mind to see them.

[Napoleon Solo]

The Spy Command's review of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. trailer:

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/0 ... e-trailer/

[Alessandra]

The famously hard to please fanboys at AIC are impressed so far...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/70353

"Looks like a lot of fun, and Cavill might be more than just a square jaw. Well done, I'm interested."

"so Cavill is the new James Bond right?? after Craig of course...."

"Cavill's got just the right amount of swagger to nail the role of Bond."

"Back when Craig got it, Cavill definitely would've been too young. He's 31 now, entering prime 007 years(depending on how young they want to start with their next one)."

"This looks great from what I've seen..and whoever mentiond Cavill for Bond after Craig I think it's a great choice.."

"When did Cavill get swagger? God d**n."

"Cavil for bond after craig..."

"I was surprised as well to how well Cavill measured up in this trailer. His Superman was pretty wooden, frankly, and I'm not sure why, since he obviously has personality and charisma on tap."

"Now we finally get a "James Bond" film......looks good..."

Yep! Even at places where people are hard to please, many people obviously see him as the next Bond. Which doesn't mean EVERYONE will like him of course. But he's definitely a popular choice and he SHOWS what he has in this trailer. I'm SO happy about it and the movie looks like a lot of fun. It will be the first "James Bond" movie I manage to see in years!

[Alessandra]

This could be his official foray into the Bond role

Or as close as he is going to get. He might be tall dark and handsome, but that isn't enough, Cavill lacks that certain something, an edge. Connery had in his first two, Lazenby had it, and Dalton had it. Cavill just doesn't. But I hope U.C.L.E is a hit, just to keep Cavill well away from Bond. We don't need Brosnan MK 2.

First off, I completely disagree with your statement that Cavill lacks edge. You clearly haven't seen his movies or his acting. If there's a thing he doesn't lack, it's edge. And watching "The Tudors" is enough to see that for anyone who has discernment. And on top of that, he is tall, dark, handsome and he has EXACTLY the PERFECT James Bond attitude. Not just on camera but in real life, too. Second, "WE"DO need another Brosnan in the role because he was fantastic, and the best we've had after Connery as far as I'm concerned. I don't speak for others, you shouldn't either. YOU don't want him, not WE or the fandom. The fact you dislike and take jabs at Brosnan tells me everything I need to know. I don't know why people put up with your constant insulting of Cavill that is based on nothing but your own personal rooted dislike, cause none of the points you make about him are actually motivated... and you're doing it when he is clearly the favorite and not just around here. But I am done with it. I've read your posts and ignored them mostly, now making a ridiculous claim about him lacking edge made me speak, and using "WE" to try and put Cavill AND Brosnan down, when you are speaking for yourself and yourself only and not in the name of anyone else was the last straw.

And by the way, Cavill was the most popular choice when Craig was instead chosen, on forums that are full of Craig fanboys, too. I don't know why you feel the need to make false statements about Cavill to put him down. It's out there in writing for everyone to see, all it takes is checking. What's certain is that Cavill is DEFINITELY a very popular choice, and even random people on the internet of freaking course see him as James Bond... because HE IS James Bond. It's that simple. If you don't like him, well too bad. This isn't the place to insult Cavill. Not this forum. He is the perfect actor for the role, on that there is no doubt, and people in this forum are most definitely not the only ones saying so. I could show you hundreds of Twitter and Tumblr posts saying the same thing. Which by the way shows how popular he is broadly, and not just among James Bond fans. He has the EXACT quality it takes to be Bond. That quality that Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan had. I'm pretty sure that Dalton would be horrified seeing one of his fans speak this way about Cavill, literally making excuses up that are completely groundless. Especially considering that Dalton LOVES Henry Cavill. Oh, you didn't know that? Go check with your favorite. Surprise!

Wow... ok. Nothing I have said about Cavill comes anywhere close to the vitirol that has been flung at Craig. If you think that, then you are deluded. And do you think Brosnan would be horrified at the way that some of his fans have spoken about Craig? Far worse has been said about Craig, than I have said about Cavill. I have merely voiced an opinion about how I don't think Cavill would be a good Bond. That is nothing compared to the attitude some have towards Craig. Thank about that, before you start ranting at me.

This might sound rich coming from someone who doesn't like Craig. But for me, it hasn't been personal. I am not butt hurt at my favourite Bond being replaced by one I deem lesser. Disappointed? Yes. And at the time of writing this post, this forum isn't a Henry Cavill worship forum. So if it is ok with you, I would to express an alternative opinion, while it's still allowed.

The internet has somehow made people believe that every opinion has validity. WRONG. An opinion doesn't have any validity when it's based on BOGUS facts like some of the things you spewed about Cavill (e.g. him being a choice only on here, which is blatantly false and ridiculous, and there are heaps of posts on the two most famous Bond forums, CommanderBond and AJB, showing the opposite... and that's on top of HEAPS of youtube, twitter, tumblr comments from the general public, which I'm afraid matter more, because the general public is the one that makes movies make money). At that point it becomes gratuitous insult. You disliking Cavill is no problem, the problem is you making stuff up AND on top of that talking "WE" as if you speak for the whole fandom, about Brosnan, while insulting him ,too. And doing nothing but try to stir up an argument when we're posting about Cavill.

You also seem to be under the impression that this is a generic forum, when it isn't. It's called DANIEL CRAIG IS NOT BOND so OBVIOUSLY Craig is NOT liked around here and that is the subject matter of this forum and WHY this forum is different from others. This is not a looney bin place like Mi6 or the like where teens and fanboys say any and everything. So you bringing up that bad things are said about Craig here is quite hilarious. Did you not see what the place is called? There IS an underlying motif here and that's why most of us are here, exactly to voice our dislike for Craig and to avoid Brosnan haters, which you definitely seem to be a part of.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

The internet has somehow made people believe that every opinion has validity. WRONG. An opinion doesn't have any validity when it's based on BOGUS facts like some of the things you spewed about Cavill (e.g. him being a choice only on here, which is blatantly false and ridiculous, and there are heaps of posts on the two most famous Bond forums, CommanderBond and AJB, showing the opposite... and that's on top of HEAPS of youtube, twitter, tumblr comments from the general public, which I'm afraid matter more, because the general public is the one that makes movies make money). At that point it becomes gratuitous insult. You disliking Cavill is no problem, the problem is you making stuff up AND on top of that talking "WE" as if you speak for the whole fandom, about Brosnan, while insulting him ,too. And doing nothing but try to stir up an argument when we're posting about Cavill.

I have not made anything up. I have expressed an opinion that I simply don't want Cavill as Bond, as, in my eyes, he would be too much like Brosnan. A step up from what we have now, of course, but still...

You also seem to be under the impression that this is a generic forum, when it isn't. It's called DANIEL CRAIG IS NOT BOND so OBVIOUSLY Craig is NOT liked around here and that is the subject matter of this forum and WHY this forum is different from others. This is not a looney bin place like Mi6 or the like where teens and fanboys say any and everything. So you bringing up that bad things are said about Craig here is quite hilarious. Did you not see what the place is called? There IS an underlying motif here and that's why most of us are here, exactly to voice our dislike for Craig and to avoid Brosnan haters, which you definitely seem to be a part of.

I am fully aware of what this forum is called. I have expressed my own negative opinions of the Craig era. And despite what you might think, I am not a Brosnan "hater", as you put it (though I can criticise aspects of his era). I have praised him in the past, as an actor, for his performance in Bag Of Bones. In a Bond marathon I had last year, the Brosnan films were ranked #'s 5 (Tomorrow Never Dies), 8 (The World Is Not Enough), 10 (GoldenEye) & 15 (Die Another Day). What is more, if I included the last 3 films, those numbers wouldn't change. And being a moderator on MI6, what you said about looney bins, sounds looney in itself. I post here, because I am unhappy with the direction the series has gone. I was sceptical back when Craig was cast, but I gave him a chance. I waited to see him in action, and I wasn't impressed with the total lack of any semblance of Bond in his performances.

[Omega]

The Spy Command's review of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. trailer:

https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/0 ... e-trailer/

I like the trailer
Looks like a old school bond


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[Alessandra]

Let's all

The day AFTER The Man From U.N.C.L.E. releases a trailer that clearly pleases a hell of a lot of people? EON and SONY release "a glimpse into the new 007 film, Spectre".

They saw how well received the trailer with Cavill and Hammer was and they RUSHED to release one the day after. If anyone thinks this is a coincidence, I will just laugh at them.

Here it goes
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/mo ... _143628377

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

Didn't GMTV (or whatever it is called these days), have an exclusive on set report yesterday? I recall hearing something about an exclusive earlier in the week. I remember thinking, a few years ago (like back in the 90's, or 2002), I would have watched it. Same with movie magazines having previews of Bond. I have about 10 different magazines during DAD's production, about 6 during CR's, 3 during QOS and none during SF. That tells me something, but I can't for the life of me think what.

A snowy/icy car chase eh? Bond has never had one of those before.

[bjmdds]

Let's all

The day AFTER The Man From U.N.C.L.E. releases a trailer that clearly pleases a hell of a lot of people? EON and SONY release "a glimpse into the new 007 film, Spectre".

They saw how well received the trailer with Cavill and Hammer was and they RUSHED to release one the day after. If anyone thinks this is a coincidence, I will just laugh at them.

Here it goes
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/mo ... _143628377

Did you notice the name of the featured associate producer, 'CREGG' Wilson? That name is an exact match of my description of 'CR-EGG' Broccoli was nowhere to be found once again. This 'CREGG' must be MGW's spawn and is he being groomed to replace MGW officially? That video release was NO coincidence. Eon NEVER reveals their video footage prematurely before a trailer so it's obvious that they feel somewhat in competition with UNCLE and Cavill now. SPECTRE looks more and more like a ripoff reboot of OHMSS but with the added nonsense that little Lord Blofeld was jealous of his boyhood buddy, so he devoted his life to ruining Bond's life to get back at his daddy who ignored him during adolescence........what GARBAGE We already have seen this storyline from Connery through Moore, and now it's with a psychotic twist.

[Alessandra]

Let's all

The day AFTER The Man From U.N.C.L.E. releases a trailer that clearly pleases a hell of a lot of people? EON and SONY release "a glimpse into the new 007 film, Spectre".

They saw how well received the trailer with Cavill and Hammer was and they RUSHED to release one the day after. If anyone thinks this is a coincidence, I will just laugh at them.

Here it goes
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/mo ... _143628377

Did you notice the name of the featured associate producer, 'CREGG' Wilson? That name is an exact match of my description of 'CR-EGG' Broccoli was nowhere to be found once again. This 'CREGG' must be MGW's spawn and is he being groomed to replace MGW officially? That video release was NO coincidence. Eon NEVER reveals their video footage prematurely before a trailer so it's obvious that they feel somewhat in competition with UNCLE and Cavill now. SPECTRE looks more and more like a ripoff reboot of OHMSS but with the added nonsense that little Lord Blofeld was jealous of his boyhood buddy, so he devoted his life to ruining Bond's life to get back at his daddy who ignored him during adolescence........what GARBAGE We already have seen this storyline from Connery through Moore, and now it's with a psychotic twist.

I wonder if they think people are THAT stupid? When even Variety suddenly has the "trailer" you know what's happening. And exactly the day after Henry Cavill and Armie Hammer's great trailer, no less. LOL. This is beyond hilarious.
And then of course you already said all the rest. Unoriginal, repetitive, and filled with absolutely ridiculous "daddy issues" stuff.

[bjmdds]

Rotten Tomatoes U.N.C.L.E.--- AUDIENCE SCORE 97% want to see it ----------- io9.com: Charlie Jane Anders: As you might have expected, when Guy Ritchie takes on the iconic 1960s spy-fi series, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., the result is cool-looking, self-mocking, and full of funny action. At least, this first trailer makes the U.N.C.L.E. movie look like a total blast. In this new version of U.N.C.L.E., Henry Cavill (aka Superman) is Napoleon Solo, the suave American spy who has to team up with the Russian Illya Kuryakin (Armie Hammer, aka the Lone Ranger). They have to team up to stop a rogue organization that's got its own nukes, etc. Mostly, there is zany "I work alone" humor, and clashing heroic styles, along with funny stunts. If this movie were directed by anyone but Ritchie, it would risk being somewhat humdrum and nostalgic — but this looks like it's genuinely a blast. Good use of the Temptations, too. Fingers crossed!..........

[bjmdds]

Toothpaste, this isn't Bond to you? I rest my case. There are NO other candidates now. I wanted Brosnan to do 2 more films. Broccoli fired him. I wanted Jackman 10 years ago. Broccoli never hired him. If Cavill is not hired as the 7th 007, I am giving up hope on this franchise because enduring another decade with the wrong choice would be the final straw for me. This SPECTRE plot is NOT going to be the enticing storyline Mendes and Broccoli think it will.

[bjmdds]

These two are Bond in the demented minds of Pascal and Broccoli:

[The Sweeney]

Toothpaste, this isn't Bond to you? I rest my case. There are NO other candidates now.

I agree BJ (Shock, horror!) That image of Cavill is perfect for Bond, including a longer version of the 60's Lazenby/Connery type hairstyle (far better than Craig's, IMO).

I'd be pleased if he was the next Bond. But I can't see it happening. Babs and co. don't seem to want to go down the route which would be most popular....