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Kristatos wrote:I think it's because, post-Bond, he devoted himself to smaller, more personal projects. Many of them got good critical notices, but weren't blockbusters, and weren't intended to be.
You're missing the point here. What I'm saying is that even his smaller projects with excellent reviews (like The Matador and The Ghost Writer) do not get the recognition they deserve though Pierce got a Golden Globe nomination from the former.
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bjmdds wrote:Only "12" UK theatres for NM in the UK? Disgaceful, and poorly marketed by Brosnan's group there.
Pierce has been wearing the underratedness stamp on his forehead for 19 years, and 19 years is WAAAAAYYYYYYYY overdue.
Only 12 theatres in the entire UK FBF? Are they kidding? It should be in 100 theatres minimum.
If not NM, what can be Pierce's turning point of his career?
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He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
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Last month, Charles Roven, producer on Zack Snyder’s upcoming “Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice,” was telling the Hollywood Reporter that the proposal to cast Ben Affleck as Batman had actually originated with Chris Nolan, who serves as executive producer on the film.

Perhaps realizing that the truth would be coming out one day (when fans who were still upset over “Batfleck” would go after Nolan), Roven backtracked and suggested that the idea actually came from Warner Bros., but that it was backed by Nolan.

As Roven put it, director Zack Snyder, who also helmed “Man of Steel,” the first installment in the rebooted Superman franchise, had exactly zero input in the decision.
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bjmdds wrote:He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
19 years has his talents been overlooked.
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bjmdds wrote:Last month, Charles Roven, producer on Zack Snyder’s upcoming “Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice,” was telling the Hollywood Reporter that the proposal to cast Ben Affleck as Batman had actually originated with Chris Nolan, who serves as executive producer on the film.

Perhaps realizing that the truth would be coming out one day (when fans who were still upset over “Batfleck” would go after Nolan), Roven backtracked and suggested that the idea actually came from Warner Bros., but that it was backed by Nolan.

As Roven put it, director Zack Snyder, who also helmed “Man of Steel,” the first installment in the rebooted Superman franchise, had exactly zero input in the decision.
I think it was a studio get because they wanted to work more with affleck. All the bs about how he was right for the kind of batman is trying to distract fans from what a crapy pick he is. It might be a good movie it could be better with out him.

The whole thing stinks of desperation to make the justice league matter and make avengers money .
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FormerBondFan wrote:
If not NM, what can be Pierce's turning point of his career?
Maybe Tarantino will use him in a film and do for his career what he did for John Travolta's and Bruce Willis's. They wanted to make CR together.
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FormerBondFan wrote:
bjmdds wrote:He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
19 years has his talents been overlooked.
Well, they were hard to find. :wink: Brosnan isn't underrated, but now all the fawning and screaming has stopped (it's gone over to Craig), we are seeing him without the pedestal under his feet.
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
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bjmdds wrote:He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
19 years has his talents been overlooked.
Well, they were hard to find. :wink: Brosnan isn't underrated, but now all the fawning and screaming has stopped (it's gone over to Craig), we are seeing him without the pedestal under his feet.
Brosnan's career after Bond is doing well. There is that pedestal being bond gives even a nobody like Craig who crashed three other movie series and tanked small films while being in the bond spotlight. Look how hard it was for Dalton and he is a actor who's shoes Craig is not fit to lick.

I like Brosnan as Bond and in certain roles. But look how long it took Connery and Dalton to define themselves after Bond. IMO it was not until the late 80s until Connery suddenly became recognized as this "great" actor. Then maybe fans who followed him all along can set me right
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Omega wrote: I like Brosnan as Bond and in certain roles. But look how long it took Connery and Dalton to define themselves after Bond. IMO it was not until the late 80s until Connery suddenly became recognized as this "great" actor. Then maybe fans who followed him all along can set me right
Yes, through supporting roles in films like The Untouchables and The Hunt for Red October. I think we have to accept the fact that Brosnan's leading man days in blockbuster movies are over. But I actually think he is more respected as an actor now than he was in his Bond days. Even the Mark Kermode review of NM, which wasn't that complimentary, said that Brosnan had developed into an interesting actor, and that he wanted to like the film because of that.
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Kristatos wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
If not NM, what can be Pierce's turning point of his career?
Maybe Tarantino will use him in a film and do for his career what he did for John Travolta's and Bruce Willis's. They wanted to make CR together.
I hope QT plans to hire him either of the one of his next two films.
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Kristatos wrote:Yes, through supporting roles in films like The Untouchables and The Hunt for Red October.
He was the leading man in the latter. And the same goes to his part in The Rock.
I think we have to accept the fact that Brosnan's leading man days in blockbuster movies are over.
It doesn't have to end after DAD. Depending on the script and director, anything is possible.
But I actually think he is more respected as an actor now than he was in his Bond days. Even the Mark Kermode review of NM, which wasn't that complimentary, said that Brosnan had developed into an interesting actor, and that he wanted to like the film because of that.
I wonder if NM could've done better critically if it had higher budget.
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Kristatos wrote:Yes, through supporting roles in films like The Untouchables and The Hunt for Red October.
He was the leading man in the latter. And the same goes to his part in The Rock.
Nope, Alec Baldwin and Nicolas Cage were the leading men in those films. Connery was just a supporting actor who happened to steal every scene he was in.
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Omega wrote:
Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
bjmdds wrote:He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
19 years has his talents been overlooked.
Well, they were hard to find. :wink: Brosnan isn't underrated, but now all the fawning and screaming has stopped (it's gone over to Craig), we are seeing him without the pedestal under his feet.
Brosnan's career after Bond is doing well. There is that pedestal being bond gives even a nobody like Craig who crashed three other movie series and tanked small films while being in the bond spotlight. Look how hard it was for Dalton and he is a actor who's shoes Craig is not fit to lick.

I like Brosnan as Bond and in certain roles. But look how long it took Connery and Dalton to define themselves after Bond. IMO it was not until the late 80s until Connery suddenly became recognized as this "great" actor. Then maybe fans who followed him all along can set me right
It's not the same for Dalton, as it was for the likes of Connery and Brosnan simply because the public never took to Dalton. So he was not as associated with the role as the other Bonds (Lazenby excluded) were.
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
Omega wrote:
Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
bjmdds wrote:He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
19 years has his talents been overlooked.
Well, they were hard to find. :wink: Brosnan isn't underrated, but now all the fawning and screaming has stopped (it's gone over to Craig), we are seeing him without the pedestal under his feet.
Brosnan's career after Bond is doing well. There is that pedestal being bond gives even a nobody like Craig who crashed three other movie series and tanked small films while being in the bond spotlight. Look how hard it was for Dalton and he is a actor who's shoes Craig is not fit to lick.

I like Brosnan as Bond and in certain roles. But look how long it took Connery and Dalton to define themselves after Bond. IMO it was not until the late 80s until Connery suddenly became recognized as this "great" actor. Then maybe fans who followed him all along can set me right
It's not the same for Dalton, as it was for the likes of Connery and Brosnan simply because the public never took to Dalton. So he was not as associated with the role as the other Bonds (Lazenby excluded) were.
Do you think that helped or hurt him?
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Kristatos wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
Kristatos wrote:Yes, through supporting roles in films like The Untouchables and The Hunt for Red October.
He was the leading man in the latter. And the same goes to his part in The Rock.
Nope, Alec Baldwin and Nicolas Cage were the leading men in those films. Connery was just a supporting actor who happened to steal every scene he was in.
Sean was the first billed in those two.
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
Omega wrote:
Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
bjmdds wrote:He must be frustrated. NM should do $10 million in the UK after his Bond success.
19 years has his talents been overlooked.
Well, they were hard to find. :wink: Brosnan isn't underrated, but now all the fawning and screaming has stopped (it's gone over to Craig), we are seeing him without the pedestal under his feet.
Brosnan's career after Bond is doing well. There is that pedestal being bond gives even a nobody like Craig who crashed three other movie series and tanked small films while being in the bond spotlight. Look how hard it was for Dalton and he is a actor who's shoes Craig is not fit to lick.

I like Brosnan as Bond and in certain roles. But look how long it took Connery and Dalton to define themselves after Bond. IMO it was not until the late 80s until Connery suddenly became recognized as this "great" actor. Then maybe fans who followed him all along can set me right
It's not the same for Dalton, as it was for the likes of Connery and Brosnan simply because the public never took to Dalton. So he was not as associated with the role as the other Bonds (Lazenby excluded) were.
On the bright side, Tim is slowly building up his post-Bond career, starting with Hot Fuzz.
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FormerBondFan wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
Kristatos wrote:Yes, through supporting roles in films like The Untouchables and The Hunt for Red October.
He was the leading man in the latter. And the same goes to his part in The Rock.
Nope, Alec Baldwin and Nicolas Cage were the leading men in those films. Connery was just a supporting actor who happened to steal every scene he was in.
Sean was the first billed in those two.
And Jack Nicholson was first-billed in Batman. Michael Keaton was still the leading man.
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