The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by **The Sweeney** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:49 pm

Jedi007 wrote:
I've got blonde hair, I guess.....wish I had his body though!!
That's it! It's only his body that gays and gals alike found appealing!

What sets Craig apart though from the likes of Schwarznegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. is that he can actually act. You only have to take one look at his more radical roles to see that.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:43 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Do you look at all like Craig if that is who your wife fancies Sweeney? You are right about one thing, you cannot figure them out!
I've got blonde hair, I guess.....wish I had his body though!!

Which one, the steroidal freak from CR, or the true one from Mother?

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:45 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Jedi007 wrote:
I've got blonde hair, I guess.....wish I had his body though!!
That's it! It's only his body that gays and gals alike found appealing!
What sets Craig apart though from the likes of Schwarznegger, Stallone, Willis, etc. is that he can actually act. You only have to take one look at his more radical roles to see that.

No one said Craig could not act Sweeney, he is just out of character as Bond. Too bad he did not get Ledger's role of the Joker in The Dark Knight. Playing a psychotic criminal is Craig's forte,not an english gentleman named Bond, James Bond.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:48 pm

Jedi007 wrote:
I've got blonde hair, I guess.....wish I had his body though!!
That's it! It's only his body that gays and gals alike found appealing!

The former group you mentioned played right into Broccoli's hands with Craig and they contributed greatly to the box office take of CR from what was reported.

Post by **Skywalker** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:01 am

In layer Cake you never know Craig's character name.

Post by **bjmdds** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:35 am

I watched it again. I cannot get into this film at all and cannot believe the fuss that was made over it. By the way, Bourne 3 did $24 million opening day in the USA, with more action over psyche drama.

Post by **Skywalker** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:36 pm

bjmdds wrote:I watched it again. I cannot get into this film at all and cannot believe the fuss that was made over it. By the way, Bourne 3 did $24 million opening day in the USA, with more action over psyche drama.

I actually think Craig is the best part of the distinctly average movie.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:44 am

In the USA, the verdict is now in. In November 2006, Daniel Craig, as James Bond in Casino Royale, did $40.3 million it's opening weekend. In 2002, Brosnan's DAD did $47 million in the USA it's opening weekend. The Bourne Ultimatum, this weekend, August 2007, brought in a whopping $70.2 million in the USA, nearly doubling the revenue of Casino Royale's opening weekend! It seems Jason Bourne has replaced James Bond as the favorite spy film in the USA. Eon will probably copy much more of the style of TBU to attempt to keep pace with the current appetite of the USA public. Bourne is more Bauer-like than Bond, and Bond is now more Bourne-like than Bond. I doubt ANY Forster directed spy film could come close to TBU's numbers.

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:53 am

bjmdds wrote:In the USA, the verdict is now in. In November 2006, Daniel Craig, as James Bond in Casino Royale, did $40.3 million it's opening weekend. In 2002, Brosnan's DAD did $47 million in the USA it's opening weekend. The Bourne Ultimatum, this weekend, August 2007, brought in a whopping $70.2 million in the USA, nearly doubling the revenue of Casino Royale's opening weekend! It seems Jason Bourne has replaced James Bond as the favorite spy film in the USA. Eon will probably copy much more of the style of TBU to attempt to keep pace with the current appetite of the USA public. Bourne is more Bauer-like than Bond, and Bond is now more Bourne-like than Bond. I doubt ANY Forster directed spy film could come close to TBU's numbers.

Still great news for Bond 22 though. It means audiences are not tired by this new, grittier action trend - therfore meaning EON will still continue in this vain too.

It will also be interesting to see how well TBU does worldwide, whether it will top CR.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:10 am

Once again BJ sings BS at the slightest.

Isn't it a little unfair to be comparing Craig's first Bond film against Damon's third Bourne film that had the first two build up the hype?

At best you should at least compare Craig's first with Identity, which too ended up not taking the #1 spot if I am correct.

Although that wouldn't be fair too, having a known franchise against a first timer. Looks like we're stuck not comparing fairly until Craig's second film, right?

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:28 am

stockslivevan wrote:Once again BJ sings BS at the slightest.

Isn't it a little unfair to be comparing Craig's first Bond film against Damon's third Bourne film that had the first two build up the hype?

At best you should at least compare Craig's first with Identity, which too ended up not taking the #1 spot if I am correct.

Although that wouldn't be fair too, having a known franchise against a first timer. Looks like we're stuck not comparing fairly until Craig's second film, right?

A pattern is emerging. Bourne was big. CR was bigger. TBU bigger still. And now we wait for 22.

It all looks set for Bond 22 to do MASSIVE numbers and bring back the glory, dizzy heights of 60's Bondmania and the successful Connery era. Everything is slowly falling into place!!

Post by **Kristatos** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:03 pm

The Sweeney wrote:It will also be interesting to see how well TBU does worldwide, whether it will top CR.

The first two Bourne films didn't do anything like Bond business internationally. Bourne may be bigger in the USA, but Bond kicks his bottom in the rest of the world.

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:12 pm

Kristatos wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:It will also be interesting to see how well TBU does worldwide, whether it will top CR.
The first two Bourne films didn't do anything like Bond business internationally. Bourne may be bigger in the USA, but Bond kicks his bottom in the rest of the world.

Exactly! Could not agree more.

But it also shows encouranging signs that audiences now prefer this kind of action hero, rather than the stiff upper-lip, suited-and-booted, tongue-in-cheek comedy, eyebrow-raising, gag-a-minute, sleaze bag driving around in invisible cars, gondolas, while surfing on CGI waves, being watched by double-taking pigeons.

Bourne is the way forward now - which makes it ironically much more in line with the tone of Fleming anyway. EON, take note!!! Don't mess up Bond 22 now that you have finally found the successful formula for the 00's.

Post by **Kristatos** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:58 pm

The Sweeney wrote:Bourne is the way forward now - which makes it ironically much more in line with the tone of Fleming anyway. EON, take note!!! Don't mess up Bond 22 now that you have finally found the successful formula for the 00's.

I'm sure the tradition of copying the last big spy hit will continue as long as Barbara Broccoli is in charge. The Brosnan era was characterised by making the Bond films more like True Lies and the Craig era will be characterised by making the Bond films more like the Bourne films. Making Bond films that are like Bond films will be off the table for the forseeable future. You'd better pray that the forthcoming Get Smart movie starring Steve Carell doesn't break any box office records and/or generate positive critical buzz.

Count_Lippe · Post by **Count_Lippe** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:02 pm

Yeah Yeah Yeah

Get Bond

Post by **Skywalker** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:13 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Exactly! Could not agree more.

But it also shows encouranging signs that audiences now prefer this kind of action hero, rather than the stiff upper-lip, suited-and-booted, tongue-in-cheek comedy, eyebrow-raising, gag-a-minute, sleaze bag driving around in invisible cars, gondolas, while surfing on CGI waves, being watched by double-taking pigeons.

Bourne is the way forward now - which makes it ironically much more in line with the tone of Fleming anyway. EON, take note!!! Don't mess up Bond 22 now that you have finally found the successful formula for the 00's.

There is no balance to your counter arguments. I appreciate you despise DAD and probably all the lighthearted Bond movies, but they have been huge commercial success stories. DAD had a superb admissions rate and out performed TWINE which highlights the point that Brosnan was still hugely popular and the style of Bond film did not need to be changed.

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:34 pm

Skywalker wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Exactly! Could not agree more.

But it also shows encouranging signs that audiences now prefer this kind of action hero, rather than the stiff upper-lip, suited-and-booted, tongue-in-cheek comedy, eyebrow-raising, gag-a-minute, sleaze bag driving around in invisible cars, gondolas, while surfing on CGI waves, being watched by double-taking pigeons.

Bourne is the way forward now - which makes it ironically much more in line with the tone of Fleming anyway. EON, take note!!! Don't mess up Bond 22 now that you have finally found the successful formula for the 00's.
There is no balance to your counter arguments.

I'm not trying to be balanced here. It's merely my opinion and taste.

Post by **Skywalker** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:38 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Skywalker wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Exactly! Could not agree more.

But it also shows encouranging signs that audiences now prefer this kind of action hero, rather than the stiff upper-lip, suited-and-booted, tongue-in-cheek comedy, eyebrow-raising, gag-a-minute, sleaze bag driving around in invisible cars, gondolas, while surfing on CGI waves, being watched by double-taking pigeons.

Bourne is the way forward now - which makes it ironically much more in line with the tone of Fleming anyway. EON, take note!!! Don't mess up Bond 22 now that you have finally found the successful formula for the 00's.
There is no balance to your counter arguments.
I'm not trying to be balanced here. It's merely my opinion and taste.

Atleast your honest and flawed.

Post by **James** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:55 pm

bjmdds wrote:I watched it again.

You're a glutton for punishment. I've only ever seen it once.

Post by **James** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:59 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:It will also be interesting to see how well TBU does worldwide, whether it will top CR.
The first two Bourne films didn't do anything like Bond business internationally. Bourne may be bigger in the USA, but Bond kicks his bottom in the rest of the world.
Exactly! Could not agree more.

But it also shows encouranging signs that audiences now prefer this kind of action hero, rather than the stiff upper-lip, suited-and-booted, tongue-in-cheek comedy, eyebrow-raising, gag-a-minute, sleaze bag driving around in invisible cars, gondolas, while surfing on CGI waves, being watched by double-taking pigeons.

Bourne is the way forward now - which makes it ironically much more in line with the tone of Fleming anyway. EON, take note!!! Don't mess up Bond 22 now that you have finally found the successful formula for the 00's.

Sleaze bag? If the traditional Bond is a sleaze bag I'll take him over Craig's craggy, morose, dour miserable git character (I'm sorry, I can't call him 'Bond') with one facial expression.