Skyfall Discussion (spoilers allowed)

[The Sweeney]

Interestingly, the film adaptation of Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang was produced by Albert Broccoli, and featured Gert Fröbe and Desmond Llewelyn.

And had a screenplay by Roald Dahl, just like YOLT, with a dialogue polish by Richard Maibaum. Also the production design was by Ken Adam.

Wasn't Peter Hunt also involved with it?

According to IMDb, he did the title sequence. Also Peter Lamont worked in the art department and the names of most of the stunt crew will be familiar to Bond fans.

Also, the wood used in the barn scene in OHMSS was recycled from the set of CCBB. A bit of trivia there for you.....

[Eye Of The Tiger]

I just fell asleep watching CR on the Oxygen cable channel.

I mentioned in one of my other posts on here that the one and only time that I watched Casino Royale, I became so bored with it that I got up in the middle of it and went to the kitchen to make myself something to eat. I just kept letting it play while I was in the kitchen. I doubt that I've ever done that with any other movie ever? Much less a Bond film!

I can honestly say that I've never had any desire to watch Casino Royale a second time. And I have no intentions of ever bothering with QOS or Skyfall.

[The Sweeney]

I mentioned in one of my other posts on here that the one and only time that I watched Casino Royale, I became so bored with it that I got up in the middle of it and went to the kitchen to make myself something to eat. I just kept letting it play while I was in the kitchen. I doubt that I've ever done that with any other movie ever? Much less a Bond film!

I find myself doing the exact same thing with Brozza's movies. I actually came very close to walking out of DAD at the cinema, something I've never done with any other movie, other than Batman & Robin.

[The Saint 007]

I mentioned in one of my other posts on here that the one and only time that I watched Casino Royale, I became so bored with it that I got up in the middle of it and went to the kitchen to make myself something to eat. I just kept letting it play while I was in the kitchen. I doubt that I've ever done that with any other movie ever? Much less a Bond film!

I find myself doing the exact same thing with Brozza's movies. I actually came very close to walking out of DAD at the cinema, something I've never done with any other movie, other than Batman & Robin.

The thing is, the Craig era is going to last longer than the Brosnan era did. So us disappointed fans will have to endure more suffering.

[FormerBondFan]

The thing is, the Craig era is going to last longer than the Brosnan era did. So us disappointed fans will have to endure more suffering.

This is why it's a time of waste to still have faith that the classic Bond will return, and he will never return. Based on the Skyfall's success, the general public will never separate DC's Bonds from the classic Bond. Therefore, DC's Bond is considered a classic Bond. If this is the case, then the traditional tall and dark-haired Bond has done his duties. When DC retire, the direct opposites shall take over as Bond, and these people include ethnic actors, freaks/weirdos, robots, and pets.

If you want escapism, there's Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek, The Hobbit trilogy, Superman reboot, Marvel Cinematic Universe, Mission Impossible, The Hunger Games Chronicles of Narnia......you name them.

[Barry Niven]

And while we're at it, the whole traditions of a white (oh, I'm sorry, "caucasian") Moneypenny and Felix Leiter as well as an old-man Q will continue to be ignored in favor the current producers' self-important, "enlightened", Politically Correct bull$#!+ peddling of these imposters Casio Royal/Quantus of Solemn/SkyFarce has stuck us with. But pointing out how lame they really are is just an excuse for the brainwashed sheep to denounce such complaints as "racist", "ignorant", "ageist", and whatever else they can spew out to convince themselves how right they think they are.

IMO, the only good things about these absurd Craig-Bonds is that they can be more easily ignored by the legacy of the Real Bond's 20 movies AND held up as an example of why those ones will always be better. Including the Pierce Brosnan Bonds, which I originally thought were the worst of the series at the time for their (perceived) hollowness and excesses until the Craig-Bonds came and put that idea into sharp relief. Now I might actually learn to enjoy the Brosnan Bonds more because he at least resembled what James Bond was all about; Craig doesn't. Why else is he called Not Bond?

[Eye Of The Tiger]

I mentioned in one of my other posts on here that the one and only time that I watched Casino Royale, I became so bored with it that I got up in the middle of it and went to the kitchen to make myself something to eat. I just kept letting it play while I was in the kitchen. I doubt that I've ever done that with any other movie ever? Much less a Bond film!

I find myself doing the exact same thing with Brozza's movies. I actually came very close to walking out of DAD at the cinema, something I've never done with any other movie, other than Batman & Robin.

I've never walked out of the theater during a film that I payed for. But one friend of mine who is a huge Bond fan going back to the mid 1970's, walked out of the theater during QOS. Another friend of mine hated the Peter Jackson version of King Kong so much that he walked out during it.

[The Saint 007]

And while we're at it, the whole traditions of a white (oh, I'm sorry, "caucasian") Moneypenny and Felix Leiter as well as an old-man Q will continue to be ignored in favor the current producers' self-important, "enlightened", Politically Correct bull$#!+ peddling of these imposters Casio Royal/Quantus of Solemn/SkyFarce has stuck us with. But pointing out how lame they really are is just an excuse for the brainwashed sheep to denounce such complaints as "racist", "ignorant", "ageist", and whatever else they can spew out to convince themselves how right they think they are.

Hence that's why some of us here constantly joke about other crazy characters who could possibly play Bond. It's not an issue of racism or discrimination of any kind, but there has to be a certain guideline when it comes to the casting choices. This current anything goes attitude being shown by the producers is making the Bond series completely unrecognizable and even laughable. The reinventing of the characters is unnecessary, in my opinion. Q, for example, was perfectly fine as he was before, and he's quite loved by many. So after a ten year absence, the producers decide to give us a stereotypical computer nerd Q, who says to Bond "Were you expecting an exploding pen? We don't do that sort of thing anymore." Nice... And to think that some people actually consider that line as a nod to GoldenEye. It's more like a middle finger to GoldenEye and fans of the classic Bond films. And I'm tired of the whole younger people are better suited for modern computer technology excuses. The new Batman films have an older inventor, and no one complains about that. Plus, we had an older Q working with an invisible car and virtual reality in Die Another Day, which will be beyond anything this new geeky Q concocts, due to the fact that gadgets are now considered "lame" and "unrealistic."

[The Sweeney]

Hence that's why some of us here constantly joke about other crazy characters who could possibly play Bond. It's not an issue of racism or discrimination of any kind, but there has to be a certain guideline when it comes to the casting choices. This current anything goes attitude being shown by the producers is making the Bond series completely unrecognizable and even laughable. The reinventing of the characters is unnecessary, in my opinion. Q, for example, was perfectly fine as he was before, and he's quite loved by many. So after a ten year absence, the producers decide to give us a stereotypical computer nerd Q, who says to Bond "Were you expecting an exploding pen? We don't do that sort of thing anymore." Nice... And to think that some people actually consider that line as a nod to GoldenEye. It's more like a middle finger to GoldenEye and fans of the classic Bond films. And I'm tired of the whole younger people are better suited for modern computer technology excuses. The new Batman films have an older inventor, and no one complains about that. Plus, we had an older Q working with an invisible car and virtual reality in Die Another Day, which will be beyond anything this new geeky Q concocts, due to the fact that gadgets are now considered "lame" and "unrealistic."

I can accept cultural modernisation of most secondary characters in Bond, but will point blank refuse to ever get on board a black Bond. If EON ever dared to go there, the series for me is over.

I don't have any issues with a younger Q. He wasn't even a main character in the novels, and nothing is referenced as Q being an old man in the books. I think its obvious anything to do with DAD and the Brozza films, the producers have tried to distance themselves from, and quite rightly so.

I just watched the new EON documentary, which is absolutely superb. You guys here will be please to know you actually get referenced in the documentary too.

[carl stromberg]

I just watched the new EON documentary, which is absolutely superb. You guys here will be please to know you actually get referenced in the documentary too.

I heard there was an interview with Goldeneye in it where he wore a balaclava.

Great review by Kristatos too - nice to hear a sane voice.

[The Saint 007]

I can accept cultural modernisation of most secondary characters in Bond, but will point blank refuse to ever get on board a black Bond. If EON ever dared to go there, the series for me is over.

I don't have any issues with a younger Q. He wasn't even a main character in the novels, and nothing is referenced as Q being an old man in the books. I think its obvious anything to do with DAD and the Brozza films, the producers have tried to distance themselves from, and quite rightly so.

I just watched the new EON documentary, which is absolutely superb. You guys here will be please to know you actually get referenced in the documentary too.

Perhaps making some of the secondary characters black is a way for the producers to slowly introduce a black Bond.

The thing about Q is that he's become a very important part of Bond thanks to the films, and this new version of him just reminds me of some of these younger Bond fans on the Internet who bash the older Bond films. Plus, it will probably lead to the geek versus jock banter that's typically seen in High School. And I've been saying all along that the reason why the producers are trying to distance these new Bond films from the older ones, is because they can't handle the classic formula. They make mistakes during the Brosnan era, and then suddenly declare the classic formula as dated and no longer suitable. No, it was their own foolishness that was the problem, but they will continue to use Die Another Day as a security blanket.

So I guess that documentary confirms that there really is an unfortunate person at EON who's assigned to read this site. Well, then I shall continue to post awesome classic Bond artwork to help make them feel a little more comfortable.

[Kristatos]

So I guess that documentary confirms that there really is an unfortunate person at EON who's assigned to read this site. Well, then I shall continue to post awesome classic Bond artwork to help make them feel a little more comfortable.

I had wondered. They sometimes do respond to our talking points, albeit obliquely. I feel obliged to say that there's nothing inherently sinister about this. When I was a civil servant, my job sometimes involved reading sites that attacked my department, just so that we could tailor our press releases accordingly. You need to know what people are saying about you in order to get your case across. It's not like we were compiling a hit list or anything. I might dial back the personal abuse about Barbara, though, just to make this poor sod's job a little more pleasant when she asks him or her "So...what are they saying about me?" Solidarity, brother or sister!

[Napoleon Solo]

So I guess that documentary confirms that there really is an unfortunate person at EON who's assigned to read this site. Well, then I shall continue to post awesome classic Bond artwork to help make them feel a little more comfortable.

I had wondered. They sometimes do respond to our talking points, albeit obliquely. I feel obliged to say that there's nothing inherently sinister about this. When I was a civil servant, my job sometimes involved reading sites that attacked my department, just so that we could tailor our press releases accordingly. You need to know what people are saying about you in order to get your case across. It's not like we were compiling a hit list or anything. I might dial back the personal abuse about Barbara, though, just to make this poor sod's job a little more pleasant when she asks him or her "So...what are they saying about me?" Solidarity, brother or sister!

Specifically, the documentary shows the logo to this Web site.

[Goldeneye]

So I guess that documentary confirms that there really is an unfortunate person at EON who's assigned to read this site. Well, then I shall continue to post awesome classic Bond artwork to help make them feel a little more comfortable.

I had wondered. They sometimes do respond to our talking points, albeit obliquely. I feel obliged to say that there's nothing inherently sinister about this. When I was a civil servant, my job sometimes involved reading sites that attacked my department, just so that we could tailor our press releases accordingly. You need to know what people are saying about you in order to get your case across. It's not like we were compiling a hit list or anything. I might dial back the personal abuse about Barbara, though, just to make this poor sod's job a little more pleasant when she asks him or her "So...what are they saying about me?" Solidarity, brother or sister!

Specifically, the documentary shows the logo to this Web site.

I'd like to say hello to our official shadows

[Eye Of The Tiger]

I'd like to ask Barbara what she thinks about the fact that I have more respect for her fathers James Bond than she does? Every move that she has made since the time that they fired/replaced Pierce Brosnan has been a slap in the face to the James Bond that her father produced.

I truly mean it when I say that Cubby would be ashamed of what she has done to the franchise that we all knew and loved!

To this long time Bond fan it's truly sad to see how the franchise no-longer has anything about it that makes me want to see any of the new films.

Daniel Craig is a horrible Bond. The movies aren't fun. Craig's Bond is NOT someone that you would want to be, and I doubt that he's someone that many women would want to be with. They got rid of Q and Moneypenny, and the gadgets. They got rid of the style and class. They now bring in a young geeky Q. If the rumors that I've heard are true, they are hinting at Bond being bi-sexual?

They've just turned Bond into a common thug.

I watched a copy of CR that was given to me, and hated it so much that I have no desire to watch it ever again. And from what I've heard, somehow, QOS is even worse? And Skyfall doesn't sound like it is much better.

So, Barbara. What do you say about the fact that I, and most of the other members of DCINB, have more respect for your fathers James Bond than you do?

[The Saint 007]

I'd like to ask Barbara what she thinks about the fact that I have more respect for her fathers James Bond than she does? Every move that she has made since the time that they fired/replaced Pierce Brosnan has been a slap in the face to the James Bond that her father produced.

Barbara can't handle her father's style of Bond, and thus tries to distance these new Bond films from the older ones as much as possible. They aggressively market this new style of Bond as vastly superior, and use Die Another Day as their security blanket to continuously dish out the propaganda of how the old Bond formula is so terrible and dated. But when they get themselves into a mess, like they did with Quantum Of Solace, classic Bond is then used as a method of trying to lure back the disappointed fans.

[Eye Of The Tiger]

I'd like to ask Barbara what she thinks about the fact that I have more respect for her fathers James Bond than she does? Every move that she has made since the time that they fired/replaced Pierce Brosnan has been a slap in the face to the James Bond that her father produced.

Barbara can't handle her father's style of Bond, and thus tries to distance these new Bond films from the older ones as much as possible. They aggressively market this new style of Bond as vastly superior, and use Die Another Day as their security blanket to continuously dish out the propaganda of how the old Bond formula is so terrible and dated. But when they get themselves into a mess, like they did with Quantum Of Solace, classic Bond is then used as a method of trying to lure back the disappointed fans.

I always view DAD almost as being two different films. The first half is very good. OK, there are a few things in the first half that are a little over the top like where he slows his heart rate down so drastically, and the part where Cleese's Q first shows him the Aston Martin. But overall, the first half is really good. The second half is bad, and has some of the worst CGI that I've ever seen. But as bad as the second half of DAD is, it's still at least entertaining, even if it's ridiculous. CR on the other hand, is a royal bore-fest from beginning to end. And I've heard that QOS is even worse.

[Omega]

I'd agree they had a great first half but I think the Matrix / big scifi was looming over the movies head then Bourne showed up it all went to hell.

[The Sweeney]

So, Barbara. What do you say about the fact that I, and most of the other members of DCINB, have more respect for your fathers James Bond than you do?

I think the BO results of 1 billion dollars, coupled with the global critical acclaim may help her get over this.

[FormerBondFan]

So, Barbara. What do you say about the fact that I, and most of the other members of DCINB, have more respect for your fathers James Bond than you do?

I think the BO results of 1 billion dollars, coupled with the global critical acclaim may help her sleep a little easier at night.

In this case, James Bond can be anyone, regardless of race and appearance as long as they can act. Like the Saint 007 said, there's no more guidelines on how Bond should look like anymore. Might as well give Bond either a ponytail (no, it's not Fat Seagal or Seagal parody Will Sasso) or an eye-patch. Why not give the Bond role an equal opportunity for everyone? Seriously though. Saint 007, what are your thoughts?