The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

After the box office success of Hercules, http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0nDAnBOX7W4/T ... _super.jpg Steve Reeves turned down the role that finally went to Clint Eastwood in A Fistful of Dollars (1964) because he could not believe that "Italians could make a western". He also claimed to have turned down James Bond's role in Dr. No (1962). {I never knew this. He was busy in Italy doing Hercules films.}

[Blowfeld]

Who in their right mind would spend MORE to promote than the actual cost of a Cr-egg film? Is $150 million normal? Where do they spend it on? TV ads mostly? What a cash cow for the advertisers and what a rip off. How can any studio make money under these formulas? Nuts

$150 mln is what they spend when they advertise BIG which is what they did with this one (there were commercials for it even on satellite TV over here in Italy). It's ALL types of ads. TV, posters, banners, newspapers. All that. The cost can go down if they don't massively advertise but generally for a decently promoted action movie it is always around $100 mln.

LOL I don't think the actual film budget was only $90 mln, they probably lied like they always do and declare a SMALLER budget than the actual one (so people will think they did break even when they in fact did not). But in any case, nobody in their right mind would spend more on advertising than on the movie itself. Consider that it anyway must be around $100 mln for the massive promotion they did. In the best-case scenario they spent as much for advertising as they did for the movie. This is how it works, it's not just for this one... advertising is often the biggest cost for a movie. And that's why they need to make at least 3x production costs to break even.

I found a rambling interview with Daniel and he said people are question if they should make another. Afferently he thinks it is ok to throw good money after bad.

"I know people are questioning why we should make another movie but as far as I'm concerned, if it's a real statement by Hollywood that they'd like to make R-rated adult movies and spend money on them and actually say there's a market out there that isn't just for everybody ...

OH and he is really dogging QOS now.

"What the f--- are we doing here? This is nonsense, we're spending all this money and we're all just jerking off, let's be honest."

"There's a kind of false sense when you're on a movie that large - it's easy to forget why you're doing it. You go, 'Well, I'm doing it now because I have to do it, because I'm tied into this contract ... '

"And I didn't start acting to be tied into a contract, I started acting because I love it.

"On Quantum we were screwed because the writers' strike meant we didn't have a script. You can't cram a story into a $200 million movie, it just can't be done. So it was guess-work and ... I don't wanna be guessing with that kinda money.

"Luckily it worked out financially, and people forgave us for a lot on that movie. But we were up against it. When you've got the director and the actor - who are the only people allowed to rewrite the script during the strike - trying to rewrite the script plus direct the movie plus star in it, it's like, yeah, you're screwed.

"So possibly I got a little stung by it. I was going 'Christ, I can't work like this. It's too exhausting and not rewarding enough. And I'm not satisfied with the outcome'."

[bjmdds]

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in ... -poll-says The most damaging poll out there to date for the Oh-bama

[bjmdds]

Who in their right mind would spend MORE to promote than the actual cost of a Cr-egg film? Is $150 million normal? Where do they spend it on? TV ads mostly? What a cash cow for the advertisers and what a rip off. How can any studio make money under these formulas? Nuts

$150 mln is what they spend when they advertise BIG which is what they did with this one (there were commercials for it even on satellite TV over here in Italy). It's ALL types of ads. TV, posters, banners, newspapers. All that. The cost can go down if they don't massively advertise but generally for a decently promoted action movie it is always around $100 mln.

LOL I don't think the actual film budget was only $90 mln, they probably lied like they always do and declare a SMALLER budget than the actual one (so people will think they did break even when they in fact did not). But in any case, nobody in their right mind would spend more on advertising than on the movie itself. Consider that it anyway must be around $100 mln for the massive promotion they did. In the best-case scenario they spent as much for advertising as they did for the movie. This is how it works, it's not just for this one... advertising is often the biggest cost for a movie. And that's why they need to make at least 3x production costs to break even.

I found a rambling interview with Daniel and he said people are question if they should make another. Afferently he thinks it is ok to throw good money after bad.

"I know people are questioning why we should make another movie but as far as I'm concerned, if it's a real statement by Hollywood that they'd like to make R-rated adult movies and spend money on them and actually say there's a market out there that isn't just for everybody ...

OH and he is really dogging QOS now.

"What the f--- are we doing here? This is nonsense, we're spending all this money and we're all just jerking off, let's be honest."

"There's a kind of false sense when you're on a movie that large - it's easy to forget why you're doing it. You go, 'Well, I'm doing it now because I have to do it, because I'm tied into this contract ... '

"And I didn't start acting to be tied into a contract, I started acting because I love it.

"On Quantum we were screwed because the writers' strike meant we didn't have a script. You can't cram a story into a $200 million movie, it just can't be done. So it was guess-work and ... I don't wanna be guessing with that kinda money.

"Luckily it worked out financially, and people forgave us for a lot on that movie. But we were up against it. When you've got the director and the actor - who are the only people allowed to rewrite the script during the strike - trying to rewrite the script plus direct the movie plus star in it, it's like, yeah, you're screwed.

"So possibly I got a little stung by it. I was going 'Christ, I can't work like this. It's too exhausting and not rewarding enough. And I'm not satisfied with the outcome'."

Cr-egg is so full of himself and he embarrasses himself each time his maxilla lifts from his mandible Let him learn how to speak eloquently as a Bond ambassador or just shut the hell up already

[bjmdds]

FBF, Deathly Hallows 2 is nominated for 9 People's Choice awards tonight on tv. NONE for any DC films. Do you think the green vegetable cares? Will you be a presenter tonight on stage and give the Potter crew their awards?

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, Deathly Hallows 2 is nominated for 9 People's Choice awards tonight on tv. NONE for any DC films. Do you think the green vegetable cares?

She never will. And how will she react if Bond 23: Nothing Special never make it to Top 10 movies of 2012? This year is full of potential megahits from every genre. If I recall correct, you said the B1tch doesn't care about HP's success, but she will if another spy movie reached the same success as HP. Looking back in the 70s, Star Wars created a phenomenon, Cubby responded to that with Moonraker featuring Bond in space. From the looks of this, Cubby seemed to feel threatened with Star Wars' popularity even though the movie was sci-fi. That just me though. If Babs doesn't seem to care about the success of other films from different genres, she'll meet her doom anyway. Like I said, this year is filled with many megahits. Hopefully, Bond 23: Nothing Special will be forgotten (especially here in the US) in terms of not only box office returns but also failing to get high profile award nominations. The only nominations this corrupted Bond will get shall be the Razzies.

Will you be a presenter tonight on stage and give the Potter crew their awards?

I wish.

[bjmdds]

"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo expanded in to 33 territories and grossed $12.5 million. Since its Tuesday opening, it has already earned $6.6 million in Russia, which sets a new record for a David Fincher movie there. Overall, the English-language remake has made $29.3 million in foreign markets." {Sony expects $200 million internationally? How? It's certainly not from Alessandra and Sweeney and EA I would bet? }

[Alessandra]

The movie already premiered here and it didn't do well. So yeah, Sony can wishful think as much as they want, it's still not going to make them gross nearly as much as the figures they're "expecting".

I found a rambling interview with Daniel and he said people are question if they should make another. Afferently he thinks it is ok to throw good money after bad.

As long as it is HIS movie, of course.

OH and he is really dogging QOS now.

This is one of the best jokes ever. After having defended it and called it some magnificent product now he says it was utter crap (WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.) So let's see, he is of course praising Skyfall that looks the EXACT SAME as QoS so far (oh except wait they've also managed to butcher Moneypenny, Q and M in this one. Three for the price of one, impressive). Let's see what happens after? He is also lying because A) totally UNTRUE that they did not have a script. THEY DID and their dearie favorite script writer (Haggis) that I personally think is one of the most overrated screen writers in Hollywood EVER had ON PURPOSE finished it BEFORE the strike AND he advertised that big time back then. It is absolutely untrue that he put his hands on it after and that was the result of the mess... go read what he said back then, he was done and dealt with the script BEFORE the strike started. So yeah nice try, Mr Craigster, but seen as screen writing is something I'm VERY much into and that I do, you can't tell me lies without me being aware of it, especially when a franchise I'm a fan of is involved. Also B) NO it was NOT a financial success, it made the studio book a loss, and I'm sick and tired to hear that called a success financially by him. It was the FIRST Bond movie EVER to LOSE money. And the DVD sales were so disastrous that they only made matters worse. In short, kindly shut your trap, Mr Craig. Because what you're saying can only be defined with one word that I won't use.

[Omega]

And CvA made more money overseas where it was better accepted..somehow making less money is more.
Any chance the will move Superman up to this year?

[Omega]

I feel bad for all those people who made excuses for Qos. It is almost like he is saying you suckers bought tickets to a bad movie and made me rich, a movie he hates so much he wouldn't defend it.

"What the f--- are we doing here? This is nonsense, we're spending all this money and we're all just jerking off, let's be honest."
How does he not get fired? Unless this is out of context... riiight

[bjmdds]

They should move Superman big 'O. I would love to see it open against Bond 23, but for some reason I think the vampires may have scared off such a release date, but the summer of 2013 won't be so easy to compete with either so I hope they reconsider and release Superman this year, but I doubt it. FBF, do you have your tux ready for tonight's People Choice awards for DH-2?

[bjmdds]

I feel bad for all those people who made excuses for Qos. It is almost like he is saying you suckers bought tickets to a bad movie and made me rich, a movie he hates so much he wouldn't defend it.

"What the f--- are we doing here? This is nonsense, we're spending all this money and we're all just jerking off, let's be honest."
How does he not get fired? Unless this is out of context... riiight

The Green Vegetable's loins are keeping the dolt around. There is NO other logical explanation and I now have thrown Amy Pascal's lust into the mix for these two specific women keep praising and enabling this cosmic menace when the rest of civilization looks on with

[Alessandra]

And CvA made more money overseas where it was better accepted..somehow making less money is more.
Any chance the will move Superman up to this year?

Sadly I don't think so. The rumor resurfaces every once in a while but I think they're going to stick with summer 2013. They have already announced ,though, that the first trailer will be out in June this year.

LOL about CvA you know the tune, right? LESS IS MORE! except we're talking about money here. Guess these are the same skills he brings to the Bond role

- Bond, one Martini or two?
- A half, less is more.

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, do you have your tux ready for tonight's People Choice awards for DH-2?

You must be joking. And speaking of awards season, I hope DH2 gets more BAFTA nominations than CR, which got 9.

[bjmdds]

Because of the film’s 96% average (the highest of any Potter film, by the way), Deathly Hallows – Part 2 won the "Golden Tomato" in the Wide Release category. Also,People's Choice award: FAVORITE BOOK ADAPTATION :Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows – Part 2. Favorite New TV Drama goes to J.J. Abrams' Person of Interest.

[FormerBondFan]

A single Golden Globes nomination for DH2 would have been nice.

[bjmdds]

"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2" followed behind Perry with four wins for favorite movie, action movie, book adaptation and ensemble movie cast.

[The Sweeney]

He is also lying because A) totally UNTRUE that they did not have a script. THEY DID and their dearie favorite script writer (Haggis) that I personally think is one of the most overrated screen writers in Hollywood EVER had ON PURPOSE finished it BEFORE the strike AND he advertised that big time back then. It is absolutely untrue that he put his hands on it after and that was the result of the mess... go read what he said back then, he was done and dealt with the script BEFORE the strike started. So yeah nice try, Mr Craigster, but seen as screen writing is something I'm VERY much into and that I do, you can't tell me lies without me being aware of it, especially when a franchise I'm a fan of is involved.

So much BS gets thrown around from actors these days, its hard to know what is true and what is fake. Looking back at QoS, I remember hearing similar reports on the script already finishing before filming began too. Maybe they were actually lying back then, covering up the cracks and telling the world the script was completed, when in fact it wasn't, as it would have made investors very nervous, shooting a film with no script.

Who knows...

[Dr. No]

He is also lying because A) totally UNTRUE that they did not have a script. THEY DID and their dearie favorite script writer (Haggis) that I personally think is one of the most overrated screen writers in Hollywood EVER had ON PURPOSE finished it BEFORE the strike AND he advertised that big time back then. It is absolutely untrue that he put his hands on it after and that was the result of the mess... go read what he said back then, he was done and dealt with the script BEFORE the strike started. So yeah nice try, Mr Craigster, but seen as screen writing is something I'm VERY much into and that I do, you can't tell me lies without me being aware of it, especially when a franchise I'm a fan of is involved.

So much BS gets thrown around from actors these days, its hard to know what is true and what is fake. Looking back at QoS, I remember hearing similar reports on the script already finishing before filming began too. Maybe they were actually lying back then, covering up the cracks and telling the world the script was completed, when in fact it wasn't, as it would have made investors very nervous, shooting a film with no script.

Who knows...

I do remember them and him, saying they had a good script and were ready. Honestly they should stop when they're unsure of the finshed product but that is not how they work. Brosnan was upset by plenty of things during his day and they were doing major rewrites while the movies were going through production. I've never seen a Bond talking down his own mvoies like this, I'm sure DAD and MR were not the movies Pierce and Moore wanted to make and many fans loved them so they were always polite. The stuff Craig says should be saved for a memoir.

I think Craig is under the misapprehension that the movies are about him, they are not they are about us the people who pay to see them. Every actor makes a move they are not entirely happy with they do not come out to bad mouth their last movie while making the sequel. For some reason Criag feels the need to make him self look like a victim here I do not know why. If I were producer I'd be upset with him leaving a flaming bad of poop on my doorstep.
Thing is with Bond it seem the way it was, was the producers controlled every aspect until the last two movies where the directors and Craig could determine the out come overruling 40 years of history to do what ever they like. It may work and make money I hope not But I feel it does not work for Bond.

[bjmdds]

9 years wasted..........and counting These 3 releases tomorrow should drop DC's Tattoo down to 7th this weekend, with Kate Beckinsale in the R-rated film. DISTRIBUTOR RELEASE
Beauty and the Beast (3D)
Animation Buena Vista 2,500
Contraband
Thriller Universal 2,750
Joyful Noise
Music Drama ( Forget about Tin Tin.....it's Done Done )