The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by **Skywalker** » Mon May 28, 2007 11:54 am

ID wrote:Daniel Craig went slightly OTT with his bodybuilding. I think Craig's small frame didn't help matters. He looked like a Lightweight boxer who had bulked up to fight in the Middleweight division. It didn't seem like a very natural look.

His physique is far from perfect. He appears to have used 'loading' techniques to gain maximum muscle size. You can see he has worked certain muscle groups more than others which gives the impression 'A lightweight bulking up for a middleweight contest'.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:36 pm

It is obvious Craig or Eon felt it was necessary for him to 'augment' his physical appearance, for you never see him looking like that in ANY other film he has done, not to that degree. Let us see how he looks in The Visiting this summer to compare.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:40 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Captain Nash wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:
Where's Luds when you need him.
The stupid a-r-s-e hole is busy locking various threads on MI6 as we speak - thank god!
I thought we weren't allowed to use language like that.
Seems there's one rule for some and another for others.
Slagging off a moderator from another site isn't very nice carl.
To be fair to Luds, and various other forum mods, I have watched many threads of my own been closed down, and I never once had issues with it if there was a valid reason. I've also seen threads turn into downright nasty flame wars (something that hasn't happened on here thankfully.....yet!) and the mods have had no choice but to close them down too, regardless of whether it was an anti Craig starting the trouble, or the pro Craig gang throwing their weight around.

The nasty rhetoric that exists, to this day,at MI6 and CB.net is thankfully NOT found here, and I,for one, am glad to see it. Luds is so slanted in his views that it is impossible for him to be objective. He actually WELCOMES departure of contrarians to Craig/Eon's direction;here, ALL are ENCOURAGED to stay, contrary opinion or not, and that makes a forum superb!

Post by **Skywalker** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:51 pm

bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
To be fair to Luds, and various other forum mods, I have watched many threads of my own been closed down, and I never once had issues with it if there was a valid reason. I've also seen threads turn into downright nasty flame wars (something that hasn't happened on here thankfully.....yet!) and the mods have had no choice but to close them down too, regardless of whether it was an anti Craig starting the trouble, or the pro Craig gang throwing their weight around.
The nasty rhetoric that exists, to this day,at MI6 and CB.net is thankfully NOT found here, and I,for one, am glad to see it. Luds is so slanted in his views that it is impossible for him to be objective. He actually WELCOMES departure of contrarians to Craig/Eon's direction;here, ALL are ENCOURAGED to stay, contrary opinion or not, and that makes a forum superb!

I've never felt Luds to be anything other than a bit power hungry. He likes to show his arm now and again, but he doesn't bother me too much.

Post by **carl stromberg** » Mon May 28, 2007 2:17 pm

I thought we weren't allowed to use language like that.
Seems there's one rule for some and another for others.
Slagging off a moderator from another site isn't very nice carl.

Well, MI6 mods were actually encouraging their members to join this forum and ruin it when it was launched so you'll forgive me if I don't hold them in the highest esteem. That tactic failed because rather than kick everyone off as expected, we actually welcomed all members whether pro or anti Craig so we could have a debate and some interesting discussions. I used to frequent the other forums but they've all but battened down the hatches now regarding Craig. You either worship at his feet or you are made to feel unwelcome on the forum. On this forum we try to make everyone feel welcome to post whatever their view is.

And I should add that mods on other sites have said far worse things about us. We've been relatively restrained.

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon May 28, 2007 3:16 pm

carl stromberg wrote:
Well, MI6 mods were actually encouraging their members to join this forum and ruin it when it was launched so you'll forgive me if I don't hold them in the highest esteem.

I think this boils down to the CnB site itself, and not this particular forum. I have to say, I was one of the doubters too when this forum first opened, and was pleasantly suprised to be welcomed and greeted with a high level of tolerance when I began posting.

The CnB site itself didn't really do this forum any favours to begin with (I think even many of the anti brigade on here will agree with me on that) but thankfully the forum itself is proving to be a pleasant place to debate on, regardless of viewpoint.

If many of the MI6 members/mods gave it a chance and came on here, they'd probably be as suprised as I was when first joining.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon May 28, 2007 5:38 pm

Exactly right Sweeney. There is misconception out there about this website's forum, which is in it's infancy. Try to bring Thrice, Vine, etc. on board with you from MI6. You are treated here better than ANY anti-Craig poster was treated at MI6, or even CB.net. This forum formed after the notoriety of it permeated the internet and a lot of people have the wrong perception of it's essence. Spread the internet word Sweeney, to all the inhabitants there of!

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:48 pm

bjmdds wrote:Exactly right Sweeney. There is misconception out there about this website's forum, which is in it's infancy. Try to bring Thrice, Vine, etc. on board with you from MI6. You are treated here better than ANY anti-Craig poster was treated at MI6, or even CB.net. This forum formed after the notoriety of it permeated the internet and a lot of people have the wrong perception of it's essence. Spread the internet word Sweeney, to all the inhabitants there of!

I might try to, but could get lynched, strung up and quartered for being a traitor....

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon May 28, 2007 9:24 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Exactly right Sweeney. There is misconception out there about this website's forum, which is in it's infancy. Try to bring Thrice, Vine, etc. on board with you from MI6. You are treated here better than ANY anti-Craig poster was treated at MI6, or even CB.net. This forum formed after the notoriety of it permeated the internet and a lot of people have the wrong perception of it's essence. Spread the internet word Sweeney, to all the inhabitants there of!
I might try to, but could get lynched, strung up and quartered for being a traitor....

I thought your only loyalty was to Bond, James Bond. How could anyone deem you a traitor?

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Mon May 28, 2007 11:59 pm

If you stopped prattling on crap bj and going over and over the same stuff, whilst arguing with members untill it caused a flame war, you'd still be posting at Mi6. Infact as far as I know you've not been banned, so still could. You blame Mi6 for being unfair and nasty to you, but you must've done something to cause this. It's only the members who continually carry on about there dislike of Craig and CR, take over as many forums as they can, going off topic and being a pain in the a s s that cause topics to be locked.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:50 am

Captain Nash wrote:If you stopped prattling on crap bj and going over and over the same stuff, whilst arguing with members untill it caused a flame war, you'd still be posting at Mi6. Infact as far as I know you've not been banned, so still could. You blame Mi6 for being unfair and nasty to you, but you must've done something to cause this. It's only the members who continually carry on about there dislike of Craig and CR, take over as many forums as they can, going off topic and being a pain in the a s s that cause topics to be locked.

Who do I argue with Nash? I doubt others here feel as you do Nash. I did nothing,nor did Ali Kerim Bey,Gravity's Silhouette, CM007,Charles Vine,You Only Live Thrice, and others except express an opinion, on an overwhelmingly Pro-Craig site. If you find that as a pain in the rear, I disagree. If that discussion does not interest you,very simply, do not join in. In addition, it is not for you to decide what is 'crap' and what is interest.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:00 am

So why the hatred?
You're an innocent victim I suppose.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:19 am

Captain Nash wrote:So why the hatred?
You're an innocent victim I suppose.

Hatred? Who hates who? You assume the wrong thing. No one hates anyone. I left MI6 on my own terms because it became obvious contrary thoughts there were grossly disliked. No victims, just like oil and water, did not mix.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:25 am

Fair enough. You seem to take any oppurtunity you can to tell all how you were treated at Mi6, like some poor hard done by innocent victim.
In saying that, this site has it's ups and downs. Not everyone here gets an easy ride. Especially if you're pro-Craig.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:32 am

Captain Nash wrote:Fair enough. You seem to take any oppurtunity you can to tell all how you were treated at Mi6, like some poor hard done by innocent victim.
In saying that, this site has it's ups and downs. Not everyone here gets an easy ride. Especially if you're pro-Craig.

It applies to ANYONE with contrary opinions there Nash. They go after them,and disparage them so often, it is no longer a fun thing to do. My mindset is NO opinion is wrong if it is subjective, not factual. One cannot argue with facts, but subjective opinions should be embraced, as they are here, not condemned, as many are at MI6.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:40 am

But there has to be a reason for it?
As for the 'pack dogs' on Mi6, you'll find your old friend DogBond is very rarely online anymore. Unless of course she's a hidden member!

Post by **The Sweeney** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:56 am

bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Exactly right Sweeney. There is misconception out there about this website's forum, which is in it's infancy. Try to bring Thrice, Vine, etc. on board with you from MI6. You are treated here better than ANY anti-Craig poster was treated at MI6, or even CB.net. This forum formed after the notoriety of it permeated the internet and a lot of people have the wrong perception of it's essence. Spread the internet word Sweeney, to all the inhabitants there of!
I might try to, but could get lynched, strung up and quartered for being a traitor....
I thought your only loyalty was to Bond, James Bond. How could anyone deem you a traitor?

I was joking....

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:44 pm

Captain Nash wrote:But there has to be a reason for it?
As for the 'pack dogs' on Mi6, you'll find your old friend DogBond is very rarely online anymore. Unless of course she's a hidden member!

She left a month ago and wrote she is studying for some kind of test and that she will be gone for a while. Luds told her to hurry back and maybe they would even promote her there as well. The reason you ask, is that contrary views there annoy the overwhelming majority and they enjoy, it seems, driving dissenting opinion away, it is as simple as that. You might like it there Nash. Have you posted under an alias avatar on MI6?

Post by **The Sweeney** » Tue May 29, 2007 7:43 pm

bjmdds wrote: The reason you ask, is that contrary views there annoy the overwhelming majority and they enjoy, it seems, driving dissenting opinion away, it is as simple as that.

Unfortunately, contrary views on there over the past few months have come from the likes of craigisntbond, who writes and sounds like a 6 year old, Thrice, who one minute slags Craig off, then does a complete U turn and says Craig is brilliant, and then slags him off again, Vine, who just ridicules everything people say, and banned members like bondfan, who deluded himself by thinking he was better looking than Brosnan, and should be playing Bond instead of Craig.

There are many on here who do not like Craig whom I consider intelligent, and have something productive and constructive to say. Unfortunately these types of people do not reside on MI6. No wonder the tolerance level is quite low on there at the moment.

Post by **Kristatos** » Tue May 29, 2007 7:55 pm

The Sweeney wrote: banned members like bondfan, who deluded himself by thinking he was better looking than Brosnan, and should be playing Bond instead of Craig.

Uh-oh, that sounds familiar.