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bjmdds wrote:Cavill will be the next Bond if they do not grab Jackman right away. Cubby would have let Pierce do another Bond film then switch to Jackman. Jackman was the perfect choice for Bond and look what Eon chose?
He was. In fact, back then I was very vocal about them picking Jackman (and I did not campaign for Cavill back then! Shame on me :lol: I didn't know him well enough yet. I had him as second choice though, with Jackman handy I went for the obvious perfect choice.).

I still can't get over how effing badly they treated Pierce. As far as Craig, well we all know where we stand I guess :lol: Still can't believe what they did. This could've gone on so smoothly, Pierce should have done another one, Jackman three, then Cavill. But no. Why do something sensible AND LUCRATIVE (nobody is ever going to convince me that Jackman as Bond wouldn't have grossed way more than Craig did) when you can mess it all up? d**n, Barbara Broccoli.
I agree.
You may now get back up off the floor. As much as I like Craig as Bond, Pierce had another film in him. And surely deserved a better swan song than DAD.
Jackman would've made a perfect Bond, but he's too expensive for EON.
The reason the likes of Mel Gibson and Jackman not getting the Bond gig is because they're too well known in other franchises, and too expensive.
:cheers:
Though Cavill still has a chance of winning the role. And would be the perfect age for a lengthy run.
Connery was 32 when he appeared in DN, so Cavill could take over at the perfect age.
LOL I guess 2011 will be full of surprises, and they start here? :lol:

Yeah, Jackman and even Clive Owen are too expensive for them, but I still think back then they could have gone for it. Notably, Jackman just refused to go on when they wouldn't give him a script to read. Which frankly is perfectly understandable. They can't cast someone like him and not give him a freaking script to read. That's pretty presumptuous of them. You can try and do that with a Mr Nobody (like Craig was back then) and it's still pretty rude and presumptuous.

I was talking about Cavill's age matter elsewhere. While I think he's perfectly ok for the part even right now, if the film isn't released by 2012 (which at this point seems very difficult to achieve, though you never know, miracles happen) he'll be 30 at least. And if Craig does Bond 23 and it's out in 2012, he'll be anyway 30 at least by the time they cast him. Which means most likely 32 when they film it. Clearly if they cast him for 23 instead, they can go for a new reboot with him, and he can have a decade or so of movies.

While I really want him to get the role, I will anyway be ok if they cast someone like him, as in someone who looks and acts like Bond. I do think he's the biggest contender, and that he's likely to be the chosen one, but with EON monkeys you never know, so I am preparing myself for other options, too. I've started hearing and reading comments about "Immortals" and "Cold Light of Day" from people involved in them (directors, producers, writers) that actually make me worry he may become too popular quickly. Which would be a problem to cast him as Bond. It is a weird situation, because on the one side I certainly want both projects to do well so his good job is recognised and he gains bigger fame, but on the other side I don't want him to become TOO big, as I really want to see him in the Bond tux. I'm not sure what to wish here :lol: "please Henry Cavill movies, be good and do well, but do NOT overdo it". :lol:
Good thing Mad Mel didn't become Bond in GoldenEye due to that incident with Tim's ex.
Why am I not aware of all this gossip? What incident? Spill! :mrgreen:
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Captain Nash wrote:The reason the likes of Mel Gibson and Jackman not getting the Bond gig is because they're too well known in other franchises, and too expensive.
:cheers:
Good thing Mad Mel didn't become Bond in GoldenEye due to that incident with Tim's ex.
He was too bloody short! Cubby had the good sense to avoid a popular crush the studio had. His daughter on the other hand fancies Germanic roughian types and pissed away Cubby's legacy leaving the 50 year series in the ditch
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bjmdds wrote:Cavill will be the next Bond if they do not grab Jackman right away. Cubby would have let Pierce do another Bond film then switch to Jackman. Jackman was the perfect choice for Bond and look what Eon chose?
He was. In fact, back then I was very vocal about them picking Jackman (and I did not campaign for Cavill back then! Shame on me :lol: I didn't know him well enough yet. I had him as second choice though, with Jackman handy I went for the obvious perfect choice.).

I still can't get over how effing badly they treated Pierce. As far as Craig, well we all know where we stand I guess :lol: Still can't believe what they did. This could've gone on so smoothly, Pierce should have done another one, Jackman three, then Cavill. But no. Why do something sensible AND LUCRATIVE (nobody is ever going to convince me that Jackman as Bond wouldn't have grossed way more than Craig did) when you can mess it all up? d**n, Barbara Broccoli.
MGW wanted Jackman when they were not going with Pierce once more. His half-sister not so much
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MGW wanted Jackman when they were not going with Pierce once more. His half-sister not so much
Don't get me started on this one. I was so angry back then when Barbara Broccoli wanted Craig at all costs instead of someone who would have been PERFECT that I don't think I will ever forgive her. That alleged "fey" comment pissed me off to no end. I must think that was just fake, because the reasons in that "leaked memo" were so bloody ridiculous, I refuse to believe they were real.
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Captain Nash wrote:The reason the likes of Mel Gibson and Jackman not getting the Bond gig is because they're too well known in other franchises, and too expensive.
:cheers:
Good thing Mad Mel didn't become Bond in GoldenEye due to that incident with Tim's ex.
He was too bloody short! Cubby had the good sense to avoid a popular crush the studio had. His daughter on the other hand fancies Germanic roughian types and pissed away Cubby's legacy leaving the 50 year series in the ditch
:lol: :lol: (seriously, we need a better laughing smiley, this one is scary haha)

I'm really laughing but sadly there's a lot of truth to what you're saying. Mel Gibson IS short, no doubt. And between him and Pierce, no comparison. Given how Gibson turned out to be, I think they really dodged a bullet there. I much respect his acting talent but he's gone Captain Batty on all of us, and having a loose cannon comment about Bond in interviews could be seriously problematic. Can you imagine?

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I'm amazed that people are still willing to hire Mel Gibson.Apparently Jodie Foster cast him in her new movie,but they're friends going back a ways so there's a lot of nepotism there. :cuss:
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Mazer Rackham wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
Captain Nash wrote:The reason the likes of Mel Gibson and Jackman not getting the Bond gig is because they're too well known in other franchises, and too expensive.
:cheers:
Good thing Mad Mel didn't become Bond in GoldenEye due to that incident with Tim's ex.
He was too bloody short! Cubby had the good sense to avoid a popular crush the studio had. His daughter on the other hand fancies Germanic roughian types and pissed away Cubby's legacy leaving the 50 year series in the ditch
Q, how come the movie theatres keep 50% of the box office take on a given film? This is sheer lunacy. They did nothing yet keep half because they have the movie screens to show the films? 25% is not enough?
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Oh WAIT. I DID know about the whole tapes yadda yadda yadda. What I didn't know is that this girl is also Tim's ex? :shock: :shock: Seriously, is there only her for over-45 men to be with in Hollywood? :shock:
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Mad Mel.
This where he loses his 'Australian' status to Aussies and becomes an American once more.
:lol:

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Captain Nash wrote:Mad Mel.
This where he loses his 'Australian' status to Aussies and becomes an American once more.
:lol:

"We don't want him anymore, Russel Crowe almost got the boot back to New Zealand with the phone throwing."
:lol:

I do not have direct experience with Mel Gibson, although he is the neighbor of good friends of mine and he's very good friends with them in turn. They never really commented much about him. And with the recent turn of events, he is a forbidden subject to talk about. LOL. But I can speak about Russel Crowe, and he is a gigantic ASS. A very dear friend of mine interviewed him and he was a complete jackass with her. Rude, arrogant, vulgar, all combined. I never liked him to begin with (unlike many women I DO NOT find him attractive, nothing turns me off like vulgarity and that "I pump up myself at the nearby gym" provincial look) and after that event, he's been on the black book for me. They filmed that HORRID atrocious comedy where he plays the trader who ends up in France at our Bloomberg offices in London. None of my colleagues had anything good to say about him. I wasn't surprised.
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There was a time when Crowe was mentioned as being the next James Bond.
:shock:
Seems anyone will do in the eyes of the press. Which makes you wonder what some of them actually know about Bond.
I recall the late Heath Ledgers name being mentioned somewhere. It just so happens that his mum used to visit the place where I worked.
Being a loyal Bond fan I told her he was an excellent actor, but wrong for Bond. She agreed, and told me he wouldn't want to play that role.
He's sorely missed in the movie world though. Great actor.
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Captain Nash wrote:There was a time when Crowe was mentioned as being the next James Bond.
:shock:
I remember reading something like that and being horrified :shock: But it wasn't on any reputable media source if I recall correctly.
Seems anyone will do in the eyes of the press. Which makes you wonder what some of them actually know about Bond.
Most know little to nothing. And those who know, they don't waste time writing pieces about Russell Crowe as the next Bond. I can say I have a few colleagues who are very well-informed on Bond. They only write about the movies or the general outlook for the franchise, they never write about casting rumors or casting inventions (I don't think Crowe was EVER considered. Although thinking about the fact they cast Craig... :lol:)
I recall the late Heath Ledgers name being mentioned somewhere. It just so happens that his mum used to visit the place where I worked.
Being a loyal Bond fan I told her he was an excellent actor, but wrong for Bond. She agreed, and told me he wouldn't want to play that role.
He's sorely missed in the movie world though. Great actor.
Poor guy. It's so sad to think people who seemingly have everything at a young age just take their life because they are profoundly unhappy deep down, clearly. I always thought what happened to him was not only tragic but also incredibly sad.

I agree he was an incredibly talented actor though, which makes all the events even more so horrible. But he should never have been Bond. Glad his mother agreed about that and he wouldn't want to play that role. Poor woman too, losing a son like that... man this is too depressing. I need to go re-read Mazer's "not enough Oil of Olay"comment :lol:
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I don't think Oil of Olay would be any use to Daniel Craig - polyfilla would be better. :wink:
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carl stromberg wrote:I don't think Oil of Olay would be any use to Daniel Craig - polyfilla would be better. :wink:
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I'm not impressed by the new crop of movies coming out.Green Hornet,Green Lantern,Cowboys & Aliens all look like they are going to suck big time.Cowboys & Aliens does seem the most interesting of the group but the previews seem like all the best scenes are already crammed in.
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Indy 4 is growing on me the more I watch it. I like the alien theme vs. that of the second and 3rd films. The opening in area 51 is excellent, but Indy surviving the nuclear blast in a lead lined refridgerator was nonsense. That part should have been edited out.
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If I had to work with Mel *or* Russel Crowe, I would be very careful not to piss either of them off!


I've always liked Heath Ledge(god rest his soul), Casanova was on the other day..I don't know how much of what's in that movie is true, but it was entertaining enough!
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oscartheman wrote:I'm not impressed by the new crop of movies coming out.Green Hornet,Green Lantern,Cowboys & Aliens all look like they are going to suck big time.Cowboys & Aliens does seem the most interesting of the group but the previews seem like all the best scenes are already crammed in.
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bjmdds wrote:Indy 4 is growing on me the more I watch it. I like the alien theme vs. that of the second and 3rd films. The opening in area 51 is excellent, but Indy surviving the nuclear blast in a lead lined refridgerator was nonsense. That part should have been edited out.
There will be Indy 5, and I have the feeling it's going to take place in the '60s with a James Bond feel.
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carl stromberg wrote:I don't think Oil of Olay would be any use to Daniel Craig - polyfilla would be better. :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's what Mazer said "Not enough Oil of Olay in the world to save him mate" :lol: :lol: :lol: You're my new one liner hero Mazer. :lol:
I'm not impressed by the new crop of movies coming out.Green Hornet,Green Lantern,Cowboys & Aliens all look like they are going to suck big time.Cowboys & Aliens does seem the most interesting of the group but the previews seem like all the best scenes are already crammed in.
I saw the trailer for Cowboys & Aliens and I was very impressed... by how cheesy it was! Really not my cup of tea. And the fact Craig is in it is certainly no incentive for me to go see it :lol: Green Lantern I will most certainly see. No way I miss out on Ryan Reynolds as superhero. And I like Blake Lively. That said, it may turn out to be horrid.
If I had to work with Mel *or* Russel Crowe, I would be very careful not to piss either of them off!


I've always liked Heath Ledge(god rest his soul), Casanova was on the other day..I don't know how much of what's in that movie is true, but it was entertaining enough!
I don't think it was particularly accurate, but I agree it was entertaining! Poor Heath Leger. He was good in it!

Gibson OR Crowe are just men to avoid in every way for a woman... I mean it :twisted:
Indy 4 is growing on me the more I watch it. I like the alien theme vs. that of the second and 3rd films. The opening in area 51 is excellent, but Indy surviving the nuclear blast in a lead lined refridgerator was nonsense. That part should have been edited out.
I have never seen Indy 4 :shock: It ended with Sir Sean with me. Later than that, Harrison Ford was way too old already to be even remotely believable. But if you say it's growing on you... I may watch it online.
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