The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[katied]

A laptop computer-oh and a Tudors DVD!

[Captain Nash]

Little bit pretentious there bj, but then it's not really a shock you'd take a cheap swipe at CBn and Mi6.
Jackman is NEVER going to be Bond so that little male fantasy of yours WILL be just that. A fantasy.
Cavill on the other hand does still have a chance of taking on the role in the future, if the reports of his screen tests for CR are accurate.
Bond 23 with Craig hasn't come out yet, so it'll be a little while longer untill he (possibly) can strap on the shoulder holster.

As you look back on the past 5 years of Bond forums, it turns out WE were proven correct and the experiment of an avant garde Bond by Barbara Broccoli has failed

Not sure what you've proven to be correct, but the fact of the matter is BOTH of Daniel Craig's films have been HUGELY successful. CR is the highest grossing Bond film to date (*not accounting for inflation*), and has been critically praised by many. QOS on the other hand. Well, I'll give you that one. It's just rubbish.
Though once again it's not because of Craig that the film fails. Many agree Craig to be a great Bond, and he will leave a lasting impression on the series.
Oh and Merry Christmas.

[bjmdds]

The longer CR plays on television, the more those who idolized the Egg-ster realize that the film was nothing more than a tiresome card game. Even those at other Cr-egg lovefest forums have soured SOME on that film, which says a lot coming from Eon shills. Cr-egg was a disaster as Bond and his career is done, and it never was anything to begin with.

[bjmdds]

Happy holidays to all as well. May excellent health grace all our lives and may Eon replace Cr-egg in 2011 . Worthington is NOT Bond material at all. You have only 2 choices:Jackman for an immediate 3 films or Cavill for a decade of films. As you look back on the past 5 years of Bond forums, it turns out WE were proven correct and the experiment of an avant garde Bond by Barbara Broccoli has failed and the forums at MI6 and CB.net have turned out to be the minority opinion of a proper Bond. Long live this magnificent forum!

I couldn't agree more! Both for wishes and for Bond analysis. Well-put! I agree it's either Jackman for an immediate 2-3 films (he couldn't do more than that, while looking way younger than Craig - not to mention Jackman is bloody hot and stylish - he is starting to get too old for the part) or Cavill for yeah, a decade of films So d**n true that WE (the Craig era dissidents) were proven correct, and the others ARE in fact the minority opinion of a proper Bond (ahem, QoS anyone?). May the new investors oblige Broccoli to stand back with her absurd ideas (which lucklily will easily be the case).

I feel relieved I'm not the only one deeming Worthington not right for Bond. Sometimes I feel like I am too darn picky, but he, to me, is just another version of Craig. Better in terms of looks for sure, but the lack of style/charm/panache is exactly the same IMO.

Best wishes to everyone for health, prosperity and happiness... and indeed, may Eon replace Cr-egg in 2011, or at least give us the RIGHT announcement for who is going to replace him after Bond 23

Most importantly, I second the statement about this magnificent forum! I'm glad I found out about it at last! I just wish I had sooner!

Katie, you got what you wanted? Uhm, Sir Sean under a Mango tree!?

It is a distinct pleasure to have someone of your keen Bond intellect on this magnificent forum. You have added greatly to us and we all appreciate it Ale. We should all celebrate in unison when B. Broccoli is replaced by a person with the talent to redevelop the Cubby legacy.

[katied]

Getting the Bond franchise out of Babs' control will be out of her cold dead hands.

[FormerBondFan]

Happy holidays to all as well. May excellent health grace all our lives and may Eon replace Cr-egg in 2011 . Worthington is NOT Bond material at all. You have only 2 choices:Jackman for an immediate 3 films or Cavill for a decade of films. As you look back on the past 5 years of Bond forums, it turns out WE were proven correct and the experiment of an avant garde Bond by Barbara Broccoli has failed and the forums at MI6 and CB.net have turned out to be the minority opinion of a proper Bond. Long live this magnificent forum!

I couldn't agree more! Both for wishes and for Bond analysis. Well-put! I agree it's either Jackman for an immediate 2-3 films (he couldn't do more than that, while looking way younger than Craig - not to mention Jackman is bloody hot and stylish - he is starting to get too old for the part) or Cavill for yeah, a decade of films So d**n true that WE (the Craig era dissidents) were proven correct, and the others ARE in fact the minority opinion of a proper Bond (ahem, QoS anyone?). May the new investors oblige Broccoli to stand back with her absurd ideas (which lucklily will easily be the case).

I feel relieved I'm not the only one deeming Worthington not right for Bond. Sometimes I feel like I am too darn picky, but he, to me, is just another version of Craig. Better in terms of looks for sure, but the lack of style/charm/panache is exactly the same IMO.

Best wishes to everyone for health, prosperity and happiness... and indeed, may Eon replace Cr-egg in 2011, or at least give us the RIGHT announcement for who is going to replace him after Bond 23

Most importantly, I second the statement about this magnificent forum! I'm glad I found out about it at last! I just wish I had sooner!

Katie, you got what you wanted? Uhm, Sir Sean under a Mango tree!?

It is a distinct pleasure to have someone of your keen Bond intellect on this magnificent forum. You have added greatly to us and we all appreciate it Ale. We should all celebrate in unison when B. Broccoli is replaced by a person with the talent to redevelop the Cubby legacy.

If Babs' control is abolished, hopefully we'll get to see an unofficial Bond movie.

[Kristatos]

Worthington wouldn't be my first choice for Bond, but of the three actors who were shortlisted for CR, I think he would have been the best. I'd like Henry Cavill to be the next Bond, but he was only 22 in 2006, and a little too fresh-faced even for a rookie Bond. Worthington's acting may be no better than Craig's, but at least his resemblance to a young Pierce Brosnan means I wouldn't have constantly been distracted by his lack of a Bond look.

[Captain Nash]

Daniel Craig and Rachel Weisz snapped together holding hands on Christmas Eve.
http://news.itn.co.uk/entertainment.html

Ahhhhhhh.

[Alessandra]

A laptop computer-oh and a Tudors DVD!

Hear, hear!! I am eagerly awaiting comments here. Ahem, better take it to PM or off topic though

It is a distinct pleasure to have someone of your keen Bond intellect on this magnificent forum. You have added greatly to us and we all appreciate it Ale. We should all celebrate in unison when B. Broccoli is replaced by a person with the talent to redevelop the Cubby legacy.

Aw, you're so kind, thank you so much! And likewise, of course. I am really glad to have found this forum, I just wish I had sooner! But I honestly had no idea about it, and it was really me searching for a new forum to post on that brought it to my attention. I say it was fate haha

I'm not saying Babs will have ZERO power in the future. I'm saying she will have LESS power, and that's the unavoidable consequence of bankruptcy and looking for a 50-50 production partner. For Bond 23 she WILL have to compromise to whatever the desires of these other partners are, not to mention the future of the franchise is hanging by a thread if they don't do it right (so whatever happens with Bond 23 and whoever is in it, PLEASE I do not want it to tank. I want the chance to see Cavill wear the tux, or anyway someone who is actually an appropriate actor to portray James Bond take on the role, so really, I'm not wishing ANY ill here.) Too much is at stake and too much has gone wrong for her to have the same power as before. That doesn't mean she won't have any, it just means she'll have less. Had that been the case at the time of CR we would never have had to sit through Daniel Craig as Bond. Oh well. The light at the end of the tunnel is what matters. Worst-case scenario he does one more. I can deal with that. But the following actor NEEDS to be someone appropriate. I'm fairly sure that will be the case though... given the situation, the new investors and the fact they tend to anyway alternate these exaggerate "dark" movies to a more traditional version of Bond. Let's just hope 2011 is the year for good Bond news for us.

Worthington wouldn't be my first choice for Bond, but of the three actors who were shortlisted for CR, I think he would have been the best. I'd like Henry Cavill to be the next Bond, but he was only 22 in 2006, and a little too fresh-faced even for a rookie Bond. Worthington's acting may be no better than Craig's, but at least his resemblance to a young Pierce Brosnan means I wouldn't have constantly been distracted by his lack of a Bond look.

Yeah, I do think Worthington's looks were/are much better than Craig's. I think he looks too Rambo/unstylish though in attitude. He would have been better than Craig for sure, but still far from an ideal choice for me. And I would never pick him now. I CAN definitely see why Cavill would be looked upon as too young back then. And I can see why people would say he wasn't an ideal choice back then. But, if I look at the first season of the Tudors (that he filmed when they filmed CR), I don't think he looked too young to be a rookie Bond. He looked bloody perfect Well, that's his thing though That said, it may all have been for the better... IF he is picked as the next one, which he better be!

Haha I saw the Craig/Weisz thing earlier and asked why we weren't having fun with it here! I wasn't sure I could open a thread about it, so commented in the Gemma Arterton thread. Glad people are catching up with it

[katied]

As far as CR goes.. I think the networks that own it(I've seen it on USA, SyFy and a few other channels) see it as a way to fill in programming when they don't really have anything else.

[Captain Nash]

Worthington IS the same height as Craig, and was a former builder in Perth, Australia.
He's also not Bond material.
Of the finalists I'm glad Craig got it.
Second choice would've been Cavill. The young, rookie Bond angle could've been explored a little better. Though he was a little too young at the time.
All good things to those who wait.

[Omega]

Did I miss something? Is Dec 27th dump on Sam Worthington day?

If they had gone with Worthington as the newly minted agent CR would bea better movie and believable. Craig isn't this generation's Bond in CR he was a retired mail main with his 20 years in who wanted to try his had at killing. He didn't look like young man fresh out of the Army looking for a chance to serves his country.

See he can wear a suit.

[bjmdds]

Cr-egg broke up with Mitchell and now with Rachel Weisz? Mitchell is lucky and Rachel must be a moron. Rachel as Catwoman? Eddie Murphy as the Riddler? Batman 3 is shaping up to be a flop.

[Thunderpussy]

I quite like Sam Worthington, Seems a decent Bloke in Interviews and can at least tell a joke or two,Craig ( to me at least ) always comes across as a guy with a poker up is You know what.Then again I was hoping for Clive Owen to land the role.

[katied]

Cr-egg broke up with Mitchell and now with Rachel Weisz? Mitchell is lucky and Rachel must be a moron. Rachel as Catwoman? Eddie Murphy as the Riddler? Batman 3 is shaping up to be a flop.

Not sure what the deal with him breaking up(?) with Satsuki is..we'll never know.If he's happy with Rachel Weisz, fine, but it's just odd. He was with Satsuki for a long time. Not that I was here or there about her(I thought she needed to smile more, to be honest.)

[FormerBondFan]

Rachel as Catwoman? Eddie Murphy as the Riddler? Batman 3 is shaping up to be a flop.

Chris Nolan said he will include villains that have not been on screen before.

[Captain Nash]

Rachel as Catwoman? Eddie Murphy as the Riddler? Batman 3 is shaping up to be a flop.

Chris Nolan said he will include villains that have not been on screen before.

Was just about to ask where you've got this idea bj?
Nothing I've seen anywhere on the net or press to suggest either characters or actors were likely to appear in The Dark Knight Rises.

[Alessandra]

Cr-egg broke up with Mitchell and now with Rachel Weisz? Mitchell is lucky and Rachel must be a moron. Rachel as Catwoman? Eddie Murphy as the Riddler? Batman 3 is shaping up to be a flop.

Not sure what the deal with him breaking up(?) with Satsuki is..we'll never know.If he's happy with Rachel Weisz, fine, but it's just odd. He was with Satsuki for a long time. Not that I was here or there about her(I thought she needed to smile more, to be honest.)

I agree the former girl needed to smile more. That said, as I've stated previously, I've never liked Weisz, and now facts show me why And as far as Craig, given the timing of this and the NEVER announced split-up with the other girl, I am absolutely convinced he cheated on her with Weisz. Which certainly doesn't make him like one little bit more, quite the opposite.

Are you serious? Weisz as catwoman?! She could play Minou in the Aristocats... and she'd be boring as that. But catwoman? That's insanity. Not to mention I have the image of the gorgeous Michelle Pfeiffer in that role. And man, it's just a TOTALLY different league. Of acting, of class, of beauty.

[bjmdds]

Hardy will be in Batman 3 and the official villains unveiled to the public soon.

[Alessandra]

Hardy will be in Batman 3 and the official villains unveiled to the public soon.

Nice to have an insider approach Always appreciate it. But really, Weisz as catwoman? The mind boggles.

What about the earlier suggestion for Bond girls? She was a contender, and I wouldn't be opposed to her as a Bond girl, at least she's got the looks of one... even though she doesn't have much of an "edge". Now that she's with Craig though, I don't think it would be a good idea. Couples on screen almost always translate badly (few notable exceptions, but rarely works well).