The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[katied]

Nothing wrong with watching it on a small screen, but Kris is right, it is more impressive when seen on a huge screen.I saw it in the movie theater and was impressed.

[Omega]

It's Dances with Wolves in blue. It has flaws but it is one I'd watch from beginning to end. Last half hours blows all the build up away. Last half hour or GoldenEye or Living daylights would blow the best stunts and plot twists that build up over the first hour and a half.

[bjmdds]

Avatar was on HBO. I never saw it. I watched the last 30 minutes. WHAT JUNK! Blue Man Group in Las Vegas meets the Ewoks of Star Wars. I cannot believe this nonsense did so well. I will watch the beginning just to make sure it was not any better.

It really needs to be seen on the big screen, preferably in 3D. It's a spectacle, pure and simple. It certainly didn't become the first film to gross $2 billion at the box office because of its wonderful script.

Worthington not Bond-ish for my taste Kris.

[Kristatos]

Worthington not Bond-ish for my taste Kris.

Well, he wasn't playing a very Bond-ish character. I think he would have been better than Craig in that he at least has the right look, though I'd need to see him playing a more suave and sophisticated character to get an idea of what he'd be like as Bond. He apparently came close to being given the role, and I think I'd have enjoyed CR more if he had (and I doubt he'd have demanded Forster as a director for QOS the way Craig did).

[Mazer Rackham]

(and I doubt he'd have demanded Forster as a director for QOS the way Craig did).

He probably wouldn't have work on the script either. P&W's Bond 22 script was scrapped, Forster claims he, Haggis, and Craig worked on the script together. Thus Quark was born

The good thing is that Paul and I and Daniel all worked on the script before the strike happened and got it where we were pretty happy with.

Worthington may clean up OK as Connery did. Although this younger generation is one who hardly ever dresses up previous generations had to know how to dress to function in the world. Today a good pair of jeans and polo shirt will suffice. But at least he wouldn't look like sulking bouncer wearing an expensive ill fitting suit his employer is forcing him to wear.

[Omega]

Worthington is going to be looked back at as one of the biggest missed opportunities in the history of Bond. He is becoming a big star on his own unlike Craig and if they had wanted to make this generations James Bond they would have hired him. What they have made is outdated wanna be spy dramas with a old man in them. Not the Bond image that worked for Connery, Moore, Brosnan but an old guy who looks like he retired from the Post Office after 20 years of service and decided to try his hand at killing. Maybe Craig is the eighties generation Bond but he is not this generations. Only an old woman would have Craig catch her eye as a youthful lad.

[James]

Craig will be 44/45 by the time the next film comes out (assuming he's even in it) so Eon might have missed a trick by not going with someone like Worthington who is young enough not to be affected by a hiatus and also became a star anyway without Bond.

[Captain Nash]

The problem with Sam Worthington is that he's shorter than Daniel Craig.
And we all know that Craigs height has been an issue.
I think he lacks something as well. Doesn't have the 'Bond' look. I know you say the same of Craig, but Worthington looks like a builder or something. He lacks that Bond charisma that is important for the part. As much as I think Hugh Jackman is too old for Bond, he does have the traits to play Bond. Looks, charisma. If he was cast for CR I wonder what the outcome would have been, would be now and what the fans would think.
I think in general fans would take to Hugh. Guess we'll never know.

[oscartheman]

What are you smoking Nash? Craig is the same height as Worthington maybe shorter barefoot. Worthington is wrong for Bond but less wrong than Craig who has the bully body builder look down pat. Jackman would have been a perfect fit after Brosnan's last and fifth movie. Jackman's CR would have been a better movie because they would have used the first script not the re-edited for reboot or the then neutered script after Craig got the job.

[Kristatos]

What are you smoking Nash? Craig is the same height as Worthington maybe shorter barefoot. Worthington is wrong for Bond but less wrong than Craig who has the bully body builder look down pat. Jackman would have been a perfect fit after Brosnan's last and fifth movie. Jackman's CR would have been a better movie because they would have used the first script not the re-edited for reboot or the then neutered script after Craig got the job.

I think Jackman would have been a better choice than Worthington, but AFAIK, he was never really in the running, whereas Worthington almost got the part. That's why I tend to talk about Worthington more than Jackman, because a Worthington CR could have happened, whereas a Jackman CR is pure speculation.

[katied]

File this one under "It's not just me".. Gemma Arterton was part of a show at the Old Vic in London where celebs read stories written by children .The stories were from children who live in conflict areas.

There were a whole bunch of well known names including Ben Kingsley and Sherlo..I mean Benedict Cumberbatch, reading the stories. One comment I read online: "How stuck up does Gemma Whatsername sound?" Ouch.

[007]

The problem with Sam Worthington is that he's shorter than Daniel Craig.
And we all know that Craigs height has been an issue.
I think he lacks something as well. Doesn't have the 'Bond' look. I know you say the same of Craig, but Worthington looks like a builder or something. He lacks that Bond charisma that is important for the part. As much as I think Hugh Jackman is too old for Bond, he does have the traits to play Bond. Looks, charisma. If he was cast for CR I wonder what the outcome would have been, would be now and what the fans would think.
I think in general fans would take to Hugh. Guess we'll never know.

Worthington could be scrubbed up to look far more Bondish than Daniel Craig (which isn't saying much I know because everyone looks more like Bond than Daniel Craig) but I think he said in some interviews that he was glad he didn't get the part and felt uncomfortable doing the auditions.

[Kristatos]

He looks like a young Pierce Brosnan in that photo. Well, I think he does, anyway.

[bjmdds]

There have been 6 Bonds. When you analyze it, the actual first introduction scene to the public to that Bond had IMO, Brosnan's intro the most "exciting", then Dalton, Lazenby, Craig, Moore, and Connery, in that order. Connery sitting by a card table vs. Brosnan's Bond jumping off a dam is quite a different feel. Meeting Moore's Bond was also lame. It's all in the script writing.

[Kristatos]

There have been 6 Bonds. When you analyze it, the actual first introduction scene to the public to that Bond had IMO, Brosnan's intro the most "exciting", then Dalton, Lazenby, Craig, Moore, and Connery, in that order. Connery sitting by a card table vs. Brosnan's Bond jumping off a dam is quite a different feel. Meeting Moore's Bond was also lame. It's all in the script writing.

And the direction. Connery's introduction in DN probably doesn't look very dramatic on the printed page, but I think it encapsulates the character perfectly. Bond isn't just about action, that's what the current crew doesn't seem to grasp.

[Mazer Rackham]

He looks like a young Pierce Brosnan in that photo. Well, I think he does, anyway.

In that one image I do see the Brozza in him.

[Mazer Rackham]

There have been 6 Bonds. When you analyze it, the actual first introduction scene to the public to that Bond had IMO, Brosnan's intro the most "exciting", then Dalton, Lazenby, Craig, Moore, and Connery, in that order. Connery sitting by a card table vs. Brosnan's Bond jumping off a dam is quite a different feel. Meeting Moore's Bond was also lame. It's all in the script writing.

And the direction. Connery's introduction in DN probably doesn't look very dramatic on the printed page, but I think it encapsulates the character perfectly. Bond isn't just about action, that's what the current crew doesn't seem to grasp.

When Dalton hit the screen action was the order of the day, when Connery was introduced Bond as Fleming had imagined him was on full display. They didn't need to invent bungee jumping then do it off the worlds biggest dam to establish Bond's credentials it was a look and style that cemented him. Thankfully until the last movies with Craig they had tried to maintain the style although Eon had slowly become addicted to injecting more action scenes than were necessary.

[bjmdds]

Harry Potter should debut huge and $1 billion worldwide when all is said and done after it's run. ZuZu and I will be there soon, but not opening weekend. All of these actors are too type cast now for other roles but they are financially set for life. I would like to see Emma Watson break out into another role after this is done.

[katied]

Just watched the trailer for Cowboys and Aliens...not.half.bad.

BJ, my parents and I are going to go to a movie on Thanksgiving night.It probably won't be Harry Potter, though.

[bjmdds]

We might see Potter Thanksgiving day. Martin Campbell directing Ryan Reynolds as the Green Lantern will be interesting next year too but I have my doubts about Reynolds as a superhero as I did about Cr-egg as Bond. Anyone like Reynold's work? It was torture to watch him with Stewart in Adventureland.