The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[FormerBondFan]

LOL. I can't believe you actually thought he was serious.

The laughs are all on Fat Seagal.

I suppose you think he really wants Kenny G to do a Bond theme as well?

That's just the idea to make DC's Bond era look bad.

[Bond77]

I'm a little worried with this idea. Clearly you haven't thought it through bj.
Afterall, FBF would cast Steven Seagal as Bond. Is that what you want?

LOL. I can't believe you actually thought he was serious. I suppose you think he really wants Kenny G to do a Bond theme as well?

He'd rather see The Hobbit over a Bond film No Bond fan would ever think that way.

I'd rather see The Hobbit than another "Bond film" like QOS, especially now that it looks like Peter Jackson is going to be directing. If I thought that EON had learned anything from the (artistic) failure of QOS, my attitude might be different, but I can't see anything that suggests they have.

Yes, and I think it's kind of fun that FBF uses silliness, exaggeration, and absurdity to make his overall point regarding the Bond franchise.

I am not a fan of the Lord of the Rings franchise, so it would be arduous for me to sit through one of those very long films. However, I'd rather do that then watch the travesties that are Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace again.

And yes, I do consider myself a "real Bond fan". A real Bond fan of the real James Bond.

[Captain Nash]

I'm a little worried with this idea. Clearly you haven't thought it through bj.
Afterall, FBF would cast Steven Seagal as Bond. Is that what you want?

LOL. I can't believe you actually thought he was serious. I suppose you think he really wants Kenny G to do a Bond theme as well?

That's the trouble with the internet. It's hard to know when someone is being serious or not. You've taken my post to literally Kris.
Just a little teasing my friend. Nothing sinister.

[Captain Nash]

Brosnan was the most beloved and widely accepted Bond since Sean Connery look what happened to him.

What about an actor called Roger Moore. I'd argue that he was the most beloved and accepted after Connery.

Craig's turn is coming up soon.The Non-Bond era will be over soon!

I've been hearing that for five years. No doubt the day will come, but patience is a virtue.

[Captain Nash]

Five years ago yesterday Daniel Craig was confirmed as the next James Bond.

We had a black flag flying all day at DCINB headquarters.

And five years ago Brosnan was dumped like a worn out shoe. He deserved better for what he did to reinvigorate the franchise.

And we as loyal fans deserved better than some of the films his contribution gave us.
Aside from GoldenEye, were his films really that good. Certainly not alot of TND, and nearly all of TWINE. DAD was entertaining, and probably his second best portrayal of the character.
I liked Pierce as Bond, and would've welcomed a fifth from him. But it wasn't to be. Let's be honest he was starting to look old in DAD, and with the injury he sustained during filming, could EON risk it two or three years down the track? With the possibility of the star out of action, it can cost a film millions for delays like that.
It's just common sense.

Oh Captain Nash. Common sense would tell you that Brosnan was more than sufficient with his portrayal as Bond and it was silly scripts (Die Another Day), and lousy characters (examples: Christmas Jones, Eliot Carver) that plagued the Brosnan era. That is, if the Brosnan era is to labeled "plagued".

At the risk of digression, I must say that this brings me to what I don't get about criticism against Roger Moore. As if Roger Moore coordinated the "slide whistle" stunt sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun, created the Jaws character, or wrote the Moonraker script. Roger did nothing more than work with the materials given to him. Besides, Roger Moore showed that he was more than capable of playing a straight, heroic role in The Saint. It was the producers and the creative team of EON that made Bond silly in the 70's and 80's...

...which brings make to the Brosnan era. If the Brosnan era is to labeled "plagued", "silly", or what have you then the blame should be directed at Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson. They captain the Bond ship, and there are ultimately responsible for the direction of the franchise.

Now, the notion that Brosnan was beginning to look too old. I think he looked fine in his last outing as Bond, and he looked like he could have played the role as long as Moore had and it would have been fine. Besides, even if he was looking to old I'd rather have an "old looking Bond" then some one who has never looked or acted like James Bond.

An excellent post Bond 77, and one I wish more members here would recognise. I wasn't saying that Pierce Brosnan was the reason for his films being of a poorer quality, but as you've pointed out. With silly characters, poor casting choices, and over the top story lines.
I agree with you on the silly antics of the Roger Moore era, not being attributed to Moore. I wonder then why Craig gets ridiculed for scenes like running through a plasterboard wall in CR? Surely this is the same ?
At the end of the day EON must front the blame for the direction the series takes, and the decisions that they make. But as I said, Pierce Brosnan did sustain a knee injury during the filming of the hovercraft chase in DAD, which lead to filming being postponed. Knowing Pierce (then in his fifties) would be two years older at least before the next Bond film went into production, could EON risk using an actor that may injure himself again and hold up production on the film?
It's one of my beliefs as to why Pierce was dumped, and the reboot established. A younger Bond, a new direction for a tired looking series.
But as I said, I do agree with most of what you have to say.

[katied]

I'd rather have silliness like Former Bond Fan's than the deadly seriousness the franchise needs, according to some here.Just sayin'.

[bjmdds]

FBF to cast the next Bond film I say.

[katied]

LOL well as I said on another thread some fanboy is trying to get EON to hire him to write the next Bond film so yeah, he should go for it!

[FormerBondFan]

I'd rather have silliness like Former Bond Fan's than the deadly seriousness the franchise needs, according to some here.Just sayin'.

It was Pierce who wanted the deadly seriousness the franchise needs.

[katied]

There's got to be a happy medium between the overly serious stuff and the Austin Powers stuff so many fans seem to want to return.Unfortunately I don't think it exists.

[Kristatos]

There's got to be a happy medium between the overly serious stuff and the Austin Powers stuff so many fans seem to want to return.Unfortunately I don't think it exists.

Sure it does. FRWL, OHMSS, FYEO, TLD....

[bjmdds]

The Hobbit to be released December 2012 and December 2013. I know where FBF will be both months, in the theatres seeing Bilbo Baggins.

[FormerBondFan]

The Hobbit to be released December 2012 and December 2013. I know where FBF will be both months, in the theatres seeing Bilbo Baggins,

And I will. Btw, anyone here read any Tolkien's stories? I've read and own both The Hobbit and LOTR. I haven't read the others yet.

[Kristatos]

The Hobbit to be released December 2012 and December 2013. I know where FBF will be both months, in the theatres seeing Bilbo Baggins,

And I will. Btw, anyone here read any Tolkien's stories? I've read and own both The Hobbit and LOTR. I haven't read the others yet.

I read The Hobbit as a kid and have read LOTR more times than I can count. I have also read The Silmarillion and some of his non-legendarium stuff like Finn and Hengest, but have yet to tackle the 12-volume History of Middle Earth.

[FormerBondFan]

The Children of Hurin was out in stores 3 years ago.

[Gary Seven]

Richard Armitage is tipped for a role in The Hobbit. It would be good if he could play Bond next time round; although there is not much chance as he is tall and handsome with black hair and therefore will not be considered by Eon.

[bjmdds]

The Hobbit will be out the same time as Bond 23 it seems at this point and I know FBF wants Cr-egghead out, Cavill or Jackman in, and then he can welcome the movie releases at the same time in either December 2012 or 2013. I would love to have FBF one on one debating Ms. Broccoli on the BBC for 30 minutes. Even Sweeney would take notice of that debate.

[mcbride007]

I agree with Gary Seven. Richard Armitage would be a splendid Bond.

[Blowfeld]

I am quite chuffed Martin Freeman got the Bilbo role. I hope it doesn't preclude him continuing as Dr Watson. Althou the Sherlock production schedule is being moved around Doctor Who so maybe there will be enough time for him to do both.

Richard Armitage when I saw him in Robin Hood I thought he was a better choice for Bond than Daniel. A young Bond might actually be refreshing after all of this. People forget we have seen Bond young, Pierce, Timothy, George, and Sean all were either young looking or young themselves when they started. Daniel the suspension of disbelief is primarily oriented around his age and weathered appearance. Afterall he looks like young kid just starting out, getting his double oh and making a name for himself. (now would be a good time for those sarcasm smilies GE )
To cast Daniel they had to reboot since he is incapable of playing Bond as Ian Fleming wanted. Recently I've gone over interviews with Ian about 007 I have no doubt he would be horrified with Daniel. The crude aspect alone would horrify him, the recent video game makers can't stop talking about how 'brutal' Daniel is, which in itself is all the indictment of his casting needed. Perhaps of their game as well.

I would be interested to see Richard Armitage as Bond, however I think the whole saying people like to use of 'to see what he can do with the role' is right out the window. EON has to get their head on strait first. I'd be very interested in a Bond movie (and a new 007) once that were to happen. The way it is now EON could make a movie using 'Avatar' technology with Sean's likeness and voice perfectly replicated and still be churning out absolute rubbish.

[katied]

Will definitely be seeing the Hobbit if Martin Freeman is in it. I thought he was great in the UK Office.