The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Mazer Rackham]

Johnny Depp as the Riddler? Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin? Great choices to follow Ledger?

Where is the source of this bj?
Depp as The Riddler and PSH as The Penguin...wow. Hope it's true.

Is this just your own casting choices bj?
Or do you have a legitmate source for this?

Michael Caine started the "rumors" of Johnny Depp and Philip Seymour Hoffman. Debunked then recycled again.

[bjmdds]

Look for Depp I would expect to follow Ledger's domain of a villain in Batman 3.

[FormerBondFan]

Look for Depp I would expect to follow Ledger's domain of a villain in Batman 3.

I think Depp is too much of a high profile star to be the Riddler.

[Captain Nash]

Look for Depp I would expect to follow Ledger's domain of a villain in Batman 3.

I think Depp is too much of a high profile star to be the Riddler.

Anything is possible. For Batman stars are sometimes willing to lower their fee just to be a part of it.
Never say never.
It might be like asking Jerry Seinfeld if he wanted to appear in a Superman movie.

[FormerBondFan]

I don't mind Depp playing the Riddler, but I thought it would better if an unknown or someone not too high profile to play the part.

[stockslivevan]

I think Michael Emerson would be a better choice for Riddler.

[bjmdds]

Back Stocks after all this time?

[stockslivevan]

I was told Katied got banned and Skywalker returned.

[Skywalker]

Look for Depp I would expect to follow Ledger's domain of a villain in Batman 3.

I think Depp is too much of a high profile star to be the Riddler.

The important thing is that Christopher Nolan returns. With CN in place, I can confidently predict that the casting will be spot on. Eddie Murphy has also been suggested as a name for the Riddler (interesting choice)!!

I find this a useful link for fans of the BAT.

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

[Skywalker]

We simply can't say we know that is global warming is a fact.It is a theory with some data to back it up.

Yes and no. Nothing is ever 100% certain in science, but it's a theory that all the available data backs up. The deniers don't have any data or expertise on their side, their strategy is to use the uncertainty inherent in the scientific method. In other words doubt is the product they're selling, since they don't have any credible alternative theory. It's a trick they learned from creationists and other woo-woos, who exploit any lacuna in the theory of evolution (or whatever) to cast doubt upon the entire scientific corpus - "if they're not 100% certain, then how do we know that any of it is true?". The media plays into it by pretending that there is a debate between rival groups of scientists, rather than scientists on one side and lobbyists on the other, justifying it with a spurious notion of balance; though you don't see them getting on a creationist, a geocentrist or a holocaust denier in the name of balance whenever there's a debate on those subjects. The uninformed viewer then gets the notion that the deniers are real scientists, rather than crackpots on a par with the groups mentioned above.

Good post Kris.

[bjmdds]

Money Never Sleeps getting ready for release. Trailer looks 'iffy'. It will be hard to equal WS from 1987 but Gekko receiving his 23 year old portable phone on prison release is priceless. Sammy Worthington stars as well as Perseus in 3-D in Clash Of The Titans in April. The original with Harry Hamlin was lacking. This version is 'suped' up, with the second Hulk film's director.

[carl stromberg]

What are we calling Bond 23 if Craig is in it? "The Final Insult". "Never Cast Craig Again". "You Only Bourne Twice" ?

[Skywalker]

What are we calling Bond 23 if Craig is in it? "The Final Insult". "Never Cast Craig Again". "You Only Bourne Twice" ?

'Goldenhair' or 'A view to a craggy face'

[bjmdds]

Just call it a flop.

[stockslivevan]

Like you claimed CR would. Oh, that didn't happen did it? Of course curiosity factor was gone by QOS and flopped like you said. Oh wait, it didn't did it? BJ I think you need a new hobby.

[carl stromberg]

Like you claimed CR would. Oh, that didn't happen did it? Of course curiosity factor was gone by QOS and flopped like you said. Oh wait, it didn't did it? BJ I think you need a new hobby.

Seeing as it is regarded as one of the worst Bond films ever I think QOS may have been a flop. BJ was derided when he suggested during the golden days of the Craig era in 2006/2007 that the Craig reboot series was a dreadful un-Bondlike Bourne rip-off that people would lose interest in. And he was right as the critics called Craig a charmlesss thug and asked for the old Bond elements back.

[Captain Nash]

Like you claimed CR would. Oh, that didn't happen did it? Of course curiosity factor was gone by QOS and flopped like you said. Oh wait, it didn't did it? BJ I think you need a new hobby.

Seeing as it is regarded as one of the worst Bond films ever I think QOS may have been a flop. BJ was derided when he suggested during the golden days of the Craig era in 2006/2007 that the Craig reboot series was a dreadful un-Bondlike Bourne rip-off that people would lose interest in. And he was right as the critics called Craig a charmlesss thug and asked for the old Bond elements back.

It's not a flop finacially or even critically for the most part. It wasn't as successful as CR and the press did (rightly so) give it a hard time.
I'll admit that QOS is not a great Bond film. Not great by a long way. But I wouldn't call it a flop.
As for the critics calling Craig a charmless thug, I'd love to see a link to that?
If there is one thing that is a FACT, then it's Craig is widely accepted by all but a few as a good...nay great James Bond.

[The Sweeney]

CR was a success, both with the critics and at the BO - probably the highest scoring Bond film with the press in living memory, including several award nominations.

QoS wasn't such a big hit with the critics. A new benchmark had been set by CR, and QoS couldn't quite match up to it. The critics were probably more harsher with QoS than any previous Bond film, because of the huge success of CR.

But this is nothing new. Bond films rarely score so high with critics globally. It also happened during Brozza's era, Moore's era, hell probably even Connery's era.

In terms of BO success, QoS certainly brought in the numbers worldwide, but how much profit was actually made is debatable, due to the huge financial investment EON/Sony made this time round. Mazer and some of the guys here are more clued up on this subject than I am, so will probably offer more insight into whether QoS was such a big financial hit or not.

[bjmdds]

Bottom line, what was CR's and QOS's total profit, at the box office, and then with DVD sales? Mazer might know these totals.

[bjmdds]

Like you claimed CR would. Oh, that didn't happen did it? Of course curiosity factor was gone by QOS and flopped like you said. Oh wait, it didn't did it? BJ I think you need a new hobby.

Cr-egg's era will be forgotten quickly, even more so than Dalton's and with time,people will be saying 10 years from now, "what the heck was Eon thinking with Cr-egg as Bond'?