Apologies from a former MI6 patron.

[The Sweeney]

I think someone who disliked the selection of Craig as James Bond and went on MI6 or Cbn every single day to voice this on every single thread would be given very short shrift. You've actually been treated with more respect on this board than anti-Craigers on Cbn etc.

I agree with you. I have to say the moderators have been very tolerant on here.

Incidentally, does it bother you that I am on here with an opposing view....?

It doesn't bother me. The definition of a forum is a meeting place for debate, a place where people have different views. But if you are going to do fifty-seven posts every day around the central theme of "Wasn't Die Another Day shite?" (as if all those unmoved by Craig loved that film and wanted Lee Tamahori to sign on for twenty-more and Pierce Brosnan to be Bond until he was in a stairlift), it might get a bit trying

Well, lucky for you I haven't done that....yet!

[Jack Wade]

And the things MI6 and CBn have going for them are that they are legitimate James Bond fansites with credibility. Bond fans of all kinds flock there. They are legitimate sources of news with friendly, mature message boards for fans to interact.

Just because we are opposed to Craig we are not credible and immature. Some of the people here may go way overhead sometimes but what we are fighting for here is not just some dumb kid protest; it is not just how Craig looks and how Craig talks; it is everything.

Everything from how James Bond evolved into a character we know today, what has happened to him in the past and through his numerous adventures which, has been defined by the past 20 films.

If you would just try to open your mind and try listening to our arguments, you would probably see some light on our side. Don't just tell us to do the same, cause we have been hearing praises about Craig all around us. Some of it, we have accepted as true, but then we would not be fighting like this if there was nothing wrong about your arguments.

Why not try reading some reviews and arguments from this site? They have been researched and are legitimate.

This website is not credible, end of story. The bias here is mostly why. The ridiculous news stories are posted ("Craig wants gay Bond scene!" is probably floating around here somewhere) and the Brosnan loving on the mainpage are two reasons why. Also the reviews from your own base of CR are supposed to pass off as reviews that confirm that Craig is received as a crappy Bond when these reviews are coming from people within CNB.

I've read your arguments against Craig and I flat out don't agree with them. Some of the arguments are flat out stupid and childish. Oh god! He can't park a car! He's a terrible Bond!

I have read the reviews and it sickens me that CNB tries to pass off your reviews from your base that aren't even film critics as legitimate critic's reviews that supposedly prove that Craig is hated as Bond.

[ID]

I wonder if Mr Wade has ever called someone 'ugly' on the internet, made an off-color un-PC remark or campaigned agaisnt an actor taking the James Bond role for reasons as vapid as hair-color...

[Junior_Bond]

I wonder if Mr Wade has ever called someone 'ugly' on the internet, made an off-color un-PC remark or campaigned agaisnt an actor taking the James Bond role for reasons as vapid as hair-color...

From reading 'Mr Wades' posts over the last 3 months, he has made some
very intelligent and true observations about the Bond franchise, and has made his points without slagging off people.........i wish i could have the same self restraint.

My observations recently while visiting this site, are that i'am glad that
you are allowing people from 'MI6' and CBN' to have their say here.

Is it because you anti craig people have seen the film
and have actually come to a conclusion that its not that bad.

To put things into perspective, its not about Brosnan versus Craig.
I liked Pierce Brosnan.........its not Craigs fault that EON didn' give
Brosnan a decent script.
The reason people on the Bond forums are in uproar about this site
is that you started a hate campaign against the actor and producers
before you even saw the film.

I mean, the comments here over the last year have been poor childish,
and you know what DC thinks about that.

AT the end of the day its about a film franchise...........and not something
that is really serious in everyday life.

[M]

I'm really surprised. If you don't like the contents of a website, why do you visit? Why do you spend hours and hours reading forum posts written by people with a different opinion if you don't even think of merely accepting their existence? And- maybe most importantly- why do you bother to reply? To start discussions? To make trouble? Because you have nothing else to do?

Most people who don't like Craig would not even think of posting in MI6 forums. Why bother? We have a real life.

[The Sweeney]

I'm really surprised. If you don't like the contents of a website, why do you visit? Why do you spend hours and hours reading forum posts written by people with a different opinion if you don't even think of merely accepting their existence? And- maybe most importantly- why do you bother to reply? To start discussions? To make trouble? Because you have nothing else to do?

Most people who don't like Craig would not even think of posting in MI6 forums. Why bother? We have a real life.

It's called having a debate. That's what forums are for......

Or would you prefer to just have anti-Craigers on this forum, so everyone agrees with each other......?

[BondFan007]

I think CnB would have got alot more respect if the views shown on the main page had been set out in a more mature way, and not relied on photoshopped images, homophobic articles and news reports that, with alittle internet searching, were clearly false and written to fuel the hate.

If the site was set out with clear articles by Bond fans giving sensible reasons why they didn't want Craig as Bond, then the site wouldn't be ridiculed, but it quickly because a Brosnan fan site that took cheap shots at Craig, with a web-mistress who had said even before Craig was announced that she would boycott any Bond film that Brosnan wasn't in, and the Boycott petition originally had no mention of Craig, it was about getting Brosnan back.

[The Sweeney]

I think CnB would have got alot more respect if the views shown on the main page had been set out in a more mature way, and not relied on photoshopped images, homophobic articles and news reports that, with alittle internet searching, were clearly false and written to fuel the hate.

If the site was set out with clear articles by Bond fans giving sensible reasons why they didn't want Craig as Bond, then the site wouldn't be ridiculed, but it quickly because a Brosnan fan site that took cheap shots at Craig, with a web-mistress who had said even before Craig was announced that she would boycott any Bond film that Brosnan wasn't in, and the Boycott petition originally had no mention of Craig, it was about getting Brosnan back.

I agree.

I do believe some of the members here who are anti have good reason to not like the new Bond, and it is only fair that they have this forum to voice their opinions. I'm all for that. The world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same thing.

Unfortunately, this website doesn't really do them any favours. Deanna Brayton obviously had her own agenda - get Brosnan back at all costs! And with comments that could be percieved as homophobic, biased news items, a reluctance to hear opposing fans views, and slight childish and hate-filled undertones throughout the entire website, it has now been left with moderators here to pick up the pieces.

I actually think the moderators here are decent people, and have set up this forum to allow anti fans to escape what can seem like ocassional bullying by the majority of members on other forums.

[Skywalker]

I think CnB would have got alot more respect if the views shown on the main page had been set out in a more mature way, and not relied on photoshopped images, homophobic articles and news reports that, with alittle internet searching, were clearly false and written to fuel the hate.

If the site was set out with clear articles by Bond fans giving sensible reasons why they didn't want Craig as Bond, then the site wouldn't be ridiculed, but it quickly because a Brosnan fan site that took cheap shots at Craig, with a web-mistress who had said even before Craig was announced that she would boycott any Bond film that Brosnan wasn't in, and the Boycott petition originally had no mention of Craig, it was about getting Brosnan back.

I agree.

I do believe some of the members here who are anti have good reason to not like the new Bond, and it is only fair that they have this forum to voice their opinions. I'm all for that. The world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same thing.

Unfortunately, this website doesn't really do them any favours. Deanna Brayton obviously had her own agenda - get Brosnan back at all costs! And with comments that could be percieved as homophobic, biased news items, a reluctance to hear opposing fans views, and slight childish and hate-filled undertones throughout the entire website, it has now been left with moderators here to pick up the pieces.

I actually think the moderators here are decent people, and have set up this forum to allow anti fans to escape what can seem like ocassional bullying by the majority of members on other forums.

Agreed. The moderators have done an excellent job to allow good debating and have posted fair open questions.

For this forum to work, fan's of all opinions need to exsist.

I enjoy discussing the reasons I do not personally rate CR or DC's performance and am open to criticisms of my opinion. Likewise I would like my opinion to be respected and not shot down like on other forums.

[BondFan007]

Lets hope for you guys that whoever is taking over the site actually makes it something that makes people think, not just a place that people mock.

[Skywalker]

Lets hope for you guys that whoever is taking over the site actually makes it something that makes people think, not just a place that people mock.

I for one consider this site to be enjoyable and feel that it's open to debate on all issues.

[BondFan007]

It's better with the forums, I'll grant you that.

[PierceBrosnanBond]

If we were being absolutely vulgar and abusive, I would understand how MI6 members being here would be considered a "black eye." However, that's not the case.

I don't plan on being rude or vulgar and I really hope any MI6 members that decide to come here don't either. As long as people can act like adults and argue with maturity, I don't think we can hardly be called a "black eye."

Agreed.

[PierceBrosnanBond]

To everyone posting here: apologies from a former MI6 patron.
I disagree with nearly everything CnB stands for and now I’m wishing them good luck and god speed with their forum.

Old enough to remember true oppression I can not stand on the side and ignore the deliberate attack on people with a different point of view.

My fellow MI6 patrons spamming these boards have embarrassed us all. A swollen black-eye to the online community.
The spammers here are the worst of what all Bond forums have to offer. Reasonable to assume a number of you posting here were member of these boards at one time and left.

Don’t judge us all by their actions.

I applaud the restraint shown to these unworthy specimens of online hate begging to be banned. Even in the most unlikely place a good thing can flourish. The forum here is the first step in a better direction.
I have enjoyed reading why some of you do not like Daniel Craig (not just because of his physical appearance) and where you see deviation from Fleming’s text in the recent embodiment of his vision at the movies.

Keep it up!~ better things are sure to follow.

PS if you must; it will be understandable if you have to edit/deleted/ban those sorry sods attacking you now. You have my permission for what that’s worth.

And who in God's name do you think you are? Henry Kissinger?

For what its worth, I don't see anyone spamming on these boards, or attacking anyone....yet! In fact, I think you are the first poster to do so.

[carl stromberg]

I can't quite work out the thread discussing this forum on MI6. There is some complimentary stuff, along with some of the usual comments.

It's also the first time I've seen somone write the word "shyte". Never seen that spelling before!

[James]

I had a look at MI6 today and some rocket-scientist has made a comment about wanting to register on here under the name piercebrosnanisanoldfag

Nice...

[Skywalker]

I had a look at MI6 today and some rocket-scientist has made a comment about wanting to register on here under the name piercebrosnanisanoldfag

Nice...

I think there a few over there that are intent on wrecking this site. Fortunately there are a few Pro-Craig fans here that are decent.

[BondFan007]

Fortunately there are a few Pro-Craig fans here that are decent.

We're all Bond fans and, as such, all entitled to opinions on the matter.

It's when the opinions become insults and get personal that things go too far. This is directed at both pro and anti-Craigs, there are guilty ones in both camps, unfortunately the way this site was run before put alot of anti-Craigs in a bad light, even those who had intelligent opinions to put across.

[Skywalker]

Fortunately there are a few Pro-Craig fans here that are decent.

We're all Bond fans and, as such, all entitled to opinions on the matter.

It's when the opinions become insults and get personal that things go too far. This is directed at both pro and anti-Craigs, there are guilty ones in both camps, unfortunately the way this site was run before put alot of anti-Craigs in a bad light, even those who had intelligent opinions to put across.

I'm of the opinion that if you send ill thought and non-constructive posts, you deserve criticism. If on the other hand you voice your opinion with an intellectual and well-thought post, regardless of where your opinion lies it should be respected.

[The Sweeney]

I had a look at MI6 today and some rocket-scientist has made a comment about wanting to register on here under the name piercebrosnanisanoldfag

Nice...

I think there a few over there that are intent on wrecking this site. Fortunately there are a few Pro-Craig fans here that are decent.

Hope you are referring to me, young Skywalker.....