The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[katied]

Sorry,but a beard REALLY doesn't suit Craig. Some people can get away with wearing a beard.He's not one of them.

[katied]

Sweeney, getting ready for Bond #7 in 2 years? Purefoy OK by you?

I bet you here and now Craig will be still Bond in 2 years time.

If they waste their time with Craig you will be correct. I speak of BOLD action to re-re-boot Bond from Craig's mass destruction of the franchise. He never was, is not, and NEVER WILL BE Bond, IMHO.

I think it's going to take a possible terrific failure of the next Bond film to wake Babs and Mikey up to make them realize that they're running the Bond franchise into the ground. Add to that, they're doing those outside projects(Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and the movie of some book) which won't help things.

I'm not saying these things to be mean. Honestly.

[Mazer Rackham]

Star Trek opened lower than Jackman's Wolverine Friday in the USA with $24 million, vs. $34 million for the Wolfster. It appears Jackman is the 'it' guy in Hollywood, after hosting the Academy awards and being named sexiest man. This is transferring over to his films. Hear that Eon?

EON never choose an actor that is too big and popular at the time to play Bond. Are you telling me Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brozza were the biggest names in Hollywood, being named the sexiest men alive, etc. before they were picked to play Bond...?

Actually Borzza had a strong following. Probably the only one of them to have achieved recognition and a fan following long before his time as Bond. Remember he was the leading candidate to take the 007 mantel. All of the polling public and otherwise reinforced his popularity and peoples desire to see him drink a vodka martini on the silver screen.

[bjmdds]

Star Trek has gone past CR and QOS here in the USA by a huge amount with over $183 million in just 3 weekends with another holiday yet to be factored in today, Monday, in the USA. A great accomplishment by J. J. Abrams. Craig's front loaded QOS took months to reach $168 million in the USA. Wolverine is poised to pass both CR and QOS in the USA as well, being at $163 million so far. It is obvious the international appeal of Bond is greater than the USA appeal of Star Trek, but here, Bond has been usurped by Wolverine, Captain James T. Kirk, and Jason Bourne. With the explosive box office happenings in 2008-2009, QOS should have done over $200 million in the USA;however, Eon still believes their carbon copied Bond retread was a hit. Wake up Barbara, for the bell is now tolling for thee.

[katied]

Star Trek has gone past CR and QOS here in the USA by a huge amount with over $183 million in just 3 weekends with another holiday yet to be factored in today, Monday, in the USA. A great accomplishment by J. J. Abrams. Craig's front loaded QOS took months to reach $168 million in the USA. Wolverine is poised to pass both CR and QOS in the USA as well, being at $163 million so far. It is obvious the international appeal of Bond is greater than the USA appeal of Star Trek, but here, Bond has been usurped by Wolverine, Captain James T. Kirk, and Jason Bourne. With the explosive box office happenings in 2008-2009, QOS should have done over $200 million in the USA;however, Eon still believes their carbon copied Bond retread was a hit. Wake up Barbara, for the bell is now tolling for thee.

She(Babs) is looking at trouble if she doesn't do some serious soul searching before Bond 23. The name "Broccoli" will be mud in Hollywood otherwise.

[bjmdds]

Star Trek opened lower than Jackman's Wolverine Friday in the USA with $24 million, vs. $34 million for the Wolfster. It appears Jackman is the 'it' guy in Hollywood, after hosting the Academy awards and being named sexiest man. This is transferring over to his films. Hear that Eon?

EON never choose an actor that is too big and popular at the time to play Bond. Are you telling me Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brozza were the biggest names in Hollywood, being named the sexiest men alive, etc. before they were picked to play Bond...?

Actually Borzza had a strong following. Probably the only one of them to have achieved recognition and a fan following long before his time as Bond. Remember he was the leading candidate to take the 007 mantel. All of the polling public and otherwise reinforced his popularity and peoples desire to see him drink a vodka martini on the silver screen.

If Brosnan at 32 starred in FAVTAK, would TLD and LTK have been a success instead of an total failure at the box office? He could have done them from 1985-2002 and he would have loved to do them and could have redefined that Bond era. I wonder if the 6 year hiatus would have seen them replace Brosnan too factoring in the legal battles Eon had.

[katied]

I have to LOL at some of the suggestions being made for Bond 23..matching jumpsuits for the henchmen? Ummm Austin Powers much? And someone else suggested Bond fighting a baddie nude in a sauna,ala Eastern Promises.

There's not *even* enough bleach to get that out of my mind

[Kristatos]

If Brosnan at 32 starred in FAVTAK, would TLD and LTK have been a success instead of an total failure at the box office?

TLD actually did better than AVTAK at the box office. And I think LTK would have underperformed ("total failure" is too strong a term - it still made a profit) whoever played Bond. It was badly marketed and released at the wrong time of year (IIRC, it was released in summer instead of the usual November). The 15 certificate didn't help in the UK either, as it excluded a large chunk of the potential Bond audience at the time. Nowadays it wouldn't matter so much, as Bond tends to appeal more to over-25s anyway.

[bjmdds]

Wikipedia has Craig doing Bond 23 , with him contracted for a 4th , with hopefully the Killers doing the theme song , with Craig wanting Moneypenny and Q coming back on board . If true, Broccoli's arrogance will be the franchise's undoing. I now believe she MUST be removed from the process if at all possible.

[The Sweeney]

I now believe she MUST be removed from the process if at all possible.

Nope. Not possible.

Craig WILL be Bond for the next one, and most likely the one after that too. Nothing on the agenda has changed EON's mind since QoS, so I don't know what made you dream up these fantasies that Craig is suddenly going to be booted out now.

BO figures have not dropped worldwide since Craig took over, and many critics and fans are happy with Craig as Bond, so why would they?

[The Sweeney]

Star Trek has gone past CR and QOS here in the USA by a huge amount with over $183 million in just 3 weekends with another holiday yet to be factored in today, Monday, in the USA. A great accomplishment by J. J. Abrams. Craig's front loaded QOS took months to reach $168 million in the USA. Wolverine is poised to pass both CR and QOS in the USA as well, being at $163 million so far. It is obvious the international appeal of Bond is greater than the USA appeal of Star Trek, but here, Bond has been usurped by Wolverine, Captain James T. Kirk, and Jason Bourne. With the explosive box office happenings in 2008-2009, QOS should have done over $200 million in the USA;however, Eon still believes their carbon copied Bond retread was a hit. Wake up Barbara, for the bell is now tolling for thee.

How will Star Trek stand up to CR worldwide, as this is more significant to Eon than just US domestic figures....

[katied]

Wikipedia has Craig doing Bond 23 , with him contracted for a 4th , with hopefully the Killers doing the theme song , with Craig wanting Moneypenny and Q coming back on board . If true, Broccoli's arrogance will be the franchise's undoing. I now believe she MUST be removed from the process if at all possible.

The Killers? Wikipedia, like IMDB, should be taken with a grain of salt

[Kristatos]

How will Star Trek stand up to CR worldwide, as this is more significant to Eon than just US domestic figures....

Time will tell. As I write this, it has only opened in a few territories.

[Kristatos]

The Killers? Wikipedia, like IMDB, should be taken with a grain of salt

Yeah weren't The Killers supposed to be doing the theme for QOS too? They haven't even got a script for Bond 23 yet, let alone chosen who's going to sing the theme song.

[katied]

The Killers? Wikipedia, like IMDB, should be taken with a grain of salt

Yeah weren't The Killers supposed to be doing the theme for QOS too? They haven't even got a script for Bond 23 yet, let alone chosen who's going to sing the theme song.

Wishful thinking methinks(see also: Crackhouse )

[bjmdds]

Shocking developments my good friends!!! World's are colliding!!!! If you needed proof of Broccoli's mindset with Craig and her now obvious courting of a possible new Bond candidate, read this tidbit. She just does not get it. Jackman is the draw, NOT Craig, and this farce with an even moronic premise of 2 cops in Chicago played by an Aussie and a Brit will NEVER fly, ever! Instead of concentrating on Bond's future, we hear about CCBB and now this drivel. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30959853/

[stockslivevan]

Hearing that news I immediately thought "wonder what BJ makes of all this". Not surprised to see you already find it revolting just by the presence of Craig. I wonder what Jackman would say of your attitude towards Craig. Most likely "GET A GRIP". Disliking Craig as Bond is one thing, but constantly scorning everything he does that has nothing to do with Bond?

[stockslivevan]

Star Trek has gone past CR and QOS here in the USA by a huge amount with over $183 million in just 3 weekends with another holiday yet to be factored in today, Monday, in the USA. A great accomplishment by J. J. Abrams. Craig's front loaded QOS took months to reach $168 million in the USA. Wolverine is poised to pass both CR and QOS in the USA as well, being at $163 million so far. It is obvious the international appeal of Bond is greater than the USA appeal of Star Trek, but here, Bond has been usurped by Wolverine, Captain James T. Kirk, and Jason Bourne. With the explosive box office happenings in 2008-2009, QOS should have done over $200 million in the USA;however, Eon still believes their carbon copied Bond retread was a hit. Wake up Barbara, for the bell is now tolling for thee.

How will Star Trek stand up to CR worldwide, as this is more significant to Eon than just US domestic figures....

Not to mention that it will make money in the US that Bond hasn't seen since YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE but no let's ignore that fact and just target the Craig films.

[Kristatos]

Shocking developments my good friends!!! World's are colliding!!!! If you needed proof of Broccoli's mindset with Craig and her now obvious courting of a possible new Bond candidate, read this tidbit.

I don't think BB producing a play with Jackman constitutes proof that she is sounding him out for the role of Bond. Hell, I'm not even sure it constitutes evidence, especially when that play also stars Daniel Craig.

[bjmdds]

Her fantasy menage a trois?