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bjmdds wrote:In 2008 we get Indy 4, Batman II, Hulk, Bond 22, and Iron Man. This summer, I am very interested to see if The Bourne Ultimatum tops Bourne 2 at the box office, in the USA mostly, for it is not such an international hit as Bond, not yet anyway. It's success or failure could influence Barbara Broccoli again. I bet she and MGW purchase a ticket and view it for ideas and comparison.
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She admitted the films intrigued her and her brother, therefore, she must have viewed them.
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Yes, when they saw them they realized they didn't have to keep playing safe with the Bond films and so decided to make a bold move that with Bond that hasn't been done since the 60s and 80s, make them actual esponiage action thrillers.
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I take it Roger Moore's Bond is not your cup of tea, being in the 1970s? I personally think they are enjoyable, but by no means great Bond films. It is hard to believe that his tenure lasted 12 years, but the audiences had different tastes then.
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bjmdds wrote:I take it Roger Moore's Bond is not your cup of tea, being in the 1970s? I personally think they are enjoyable, but by no means great Bond films. It is hard to believe that his tenure lasted 12 years, but the audiences had different tastes then.
Sir Rog is my favourite Bond. There are numerous reasons for it, which I can go into if you wish.

I actually feel that Sir Rog is the only actor who could have carried the series through the 70's.
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They had great taste in the 60's, 70's, 80's and now. :wink:
Even the 90's weren't bad.
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Skywalker wrote:
bjmdds wrote:I take it Roger Moore's Bond is not your cup of tea, being in the 1970s? I personally think they are enjoyable, but by no means great Bond films. It is hard to believe that his tenure lasted 12 years, but the audiences had different tastes then.
Sir Rog is my favourite Bond. There are numerous reasons for it, which I can go into if you wish.

I actually feel that Sir Rog is the only actor who could have carried the series through the 70's.
Would you have preferred Moore to start the franchise in 1962 as well, if he wasn't tied up filming The Saint? You could have seen Moore doing the first 14 films. I do not know if Moore would have had the impact Connery did in the 1960s though. Connery left the franchise with a solid base for Bond films in the future.
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bjmdds wrote:Would you have preferred Moore to start the franchise in 1962 as well, if he wasn't tied up filming The Saint? You could have seen Moore doing the first 14 films. I do not know if Moore would have had the impact Connery did in the 1960s though. Connery left the franchise with a solid base for Bond films in the future.
There is an early comedic sketch by Moore on one of the UE DVD's in the early 60's and he looks too young. I think OHMSS would have been a great time for Moore to take over.
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bjmdds wrote:Would you have preferred Moore to start the franchise in 1962 as well, if he wasn't tied up filming The Saint? You could have seen Moore doing the first 14 films.
I doubt any actor would have stuck with the franchise for that long.
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I grew up with Moore as Bond. I remember seeing the Saint in reruns when I was about 10 years old and thinking it was cool that there was a show with James Bond in it. I knew Connery was the first Bond, and liked him as well, but if I went to the theatre to see a new Bond film, Moore was the actor portraying him. I think it weirded a great deal of my friends out when Dalton took over, since they had a similar experience and didn't know that much about the character outside of the movies. plus, I don't think any of had seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service until discovering it in a video rental store. So Lazenby wasn't really someone any of us were familiar with. just Moore and Connery.
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paco chaos wrote:I grew up with Moore as Bond. I remember seeing the Saint in reruns when I was about 10 years old and thinking it was cool that there was a show with James Bond in it. I knew Connery was the first Bond, and liked him as well, but if I went to the theatre to see a new Bond film, Moore was the actor portraying him. I think it weirded a great deal of my friends out when Dalton took over, since they had a similar experience and didn't know that much about the character outside of the movies. plus, I don't think any of had seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service until discovering it in a video rental store. So Lazenby wasn't really someone any of us were familiar with. just Moore and Connery.
Like many others I grew up in the Moore era. The first Bond film that I can remember seeing is Moonraker, although it probably wasn't the first I watched. I actually struggled to accept anyone else in the role at first with Sir Rog the only one I could associate the Bond franchise with. As time went by I purchased all the films on VHS and learnt to appreciate all the Bond actors (Not Craig though).
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Sir Rog and Sir Sean will always be the two people compare Bond actors with.
It's unlikely that another actor will play the role for so many films.
(Though we can only hope Daniel Craig does :wink: )
Roger Moore was Bond when I was growing up, he was the actor who got me hooked on Bond, and for many years remained my favourite. But over the years I grew to like the other actors, I really don't have a favourite Bond. I feel they've all brought something to the role, and all had a huge success with the part too.
So far Connery, Craig and Dalton have been the big standouts for me, with Moore taking an honorary mention for making Bond his own, and never giving a bad performance.
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Captain Nash wrote:So far Connery, Craig and Dalton have been the big standouts for me, with Moore taking an honorary mention for making Bond his own, and never giving a bad performance.
Moore deserves more than an honorary mention. He was a great Bond and probably would have carried on if only OFT had not finally caught up with him.

I do agree though that Moore never gave a bad performance and was capable of all the traits seen in the other Bond actors performance. (Apart from Craig). :wink:
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I do agree though that Moore never gave a bad performance and was capable of all the traits seen in the other Bond actors performance. (Apart from Craig). :wink:
So you rank Craig above Moore as a credible and great James Bond then.
Roger will always be a great Bond for me, but Craig is a completely different style.
I see him as a second coming of Dalton. A more serious and human Bond. Where Connery and Lazenby were tough and to the point, Moore and Brosnan were more playboy light comedians, Craig and Dalton are men of the firm. Get the job done no matter what. They've gone back to Fleming's roots and brought there own style to the role.
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Captain Nash wrote: So you rank Craig above Moore as a credible and great James Bond then.
:shock: :? :twisted:

Captain Nash wrote:Roger will always be a great Bond for me, but Craig is a completely different style
I see him as a second coming of Dalton. A more serious and human Bond. Where Connery and Lazenby were tough and to the point, Moore and Brosnan were more playboy light comedians, Craig and Dalton are men of the firm. Get the job done no matter what. They've gone back to Fleming's roots and brought there own style to the role.
Both RM and PB had elements of the dark gritty Bond. I accept that their films were more light hearted than Dalton and a couple of Connery's, but they had elements of Fleming in their respective portrayal's as Bond.
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Skywalker wrote:
Captain Nash wrote: So you rank Craig above Moore as a credible and great James Bond then.
:shock: :? :twisted:

Captain Nash wrote:Roger will always be a great Bond for me, but Craig is a completely different style
I see him as a second coming of Dalton. A more serious and human Bond. Where Connery and Lazenby were tough and to the point, Moore and Brosnan were more playboy light comedians, Craig and Dalton are men of the firm. Get the job done no matter what. They've gone back to Fleming's roots and brought there own style to the role.
Both RM and PB had elements of the dark gritty Bond. I accept that their films were more light hearted than Dalton and a couple of Connery's, but they had elements of Fleming in their respective portrayal's as Bond.
When?
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Skywalker wrote:
Captain Nash wrote: So you rank Craig above Moore as a credible and great James Bond then.
:shock: :? :twisted:

Captain Nash wrote:Roger will always be a great Bond for me, but Craig is a completely different style
I see him as a second coming of Dalton. A more serious and human Bond. Where Connery and Lazenby were tough and to the point, Moore and Brosnan were more playboy light comedians, Craig and Dalton are men of the firm. Get the job done no matter what. They've gone back to Fleming's roots and brought there own style to the role.
Both RM and PB had elements of the dark gritty Bond. I accept that their films were more light hearted than Dalton and a couple of Connery's, but they had elements of Fleming in their respective portrayal's as Bond.
Could you picture Moore trying to drown his victim in a toilet sink?
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Skywalker wrote:
paco chaos wrote:I grew up with Moore as Bond. I remember seeing the Saint in reruns when I was about 10 years old and thinking it was cool that there was a show with James Bond in it. I knew Connery was the first Bond, and liked him as well, but if I went to the theatre to see a new Bond film, Moore was the actor portraying him. I think it weirded a great deal of my friends out when Dalton took over, since they had a similar experience and didn't know that much about the character outside of the movies. plus, I don't think any of had seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service until discovering it in a video rental store. So Lazenby wasn't really someone any of us were familiar with. just Moore and Connery.
Like many others I grew up in the Moore era. The first Bond film that I can remember seeing is Moonraker, although it probably wasn't the first I watched. I actually struggled to accept anyone else in the role at first with Sir Rog the only one I could associate the Bond franchise with. As time went by I purchased all the films on VHS and learnt to appreciate all the Bond actors (Not Craig though).
Did you find Christopher Walken the worst or best villain during Moore's tenure as Bond, Skywalker?
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bjmdds wrote:Could you picture Moore trying to drown his victim in a toilet sink?
What kind of question is that? :? I don't remember Bond ever drowning someone in a toilet sink. I do recall a sink.

The closest Bond has ever done to drowning someone in a toilet sink was in Austin Powers. :lol:

Besides that, no, I can't imagine Roger Moore drown someone like Craig did. Nor can I imagine him killing like Connery did like snapping a man's neck from behind, use a fire iron to strangle, toss electrical devices into a tub, shoot a man in cold blood, ect.

Like Moore said in his interviews, "I can't pull off that viciousness the way Sean did" and he was right, the way he played Bond in TMWTGG didn't suit him.
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stockslivevan wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Could you picture Moore trying to drown his victim in a toilet sink?
What kind of question is that? :? I don't remember Bond ever drowning someone in a toilet sink. I do recall a sink.

The closest Bond has ever done to drowning someone in a toilet sink was in Austin Powers. :lol:

Besides that, no, I can't imagine Roger Moore drown someone like Craig did. Nor can I imagine him killing like Connery did like snapping a man's neck from behind, use a fire iron to strangle, toss electrical devices into a tub, shoot a man in cold blood, ect.

Like Moore said in his interviews, "I can't pull off that viciousness the way Sean did" and he was right, the way he played Bond in TMWTGG didn't suit him.
Craig's first 5 minutes of CR, in black and white, in the public toilet,in the sink, with his victim.....before he shot him......
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