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stockslivevan wrote:
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stockslivevan wrote:The Blu-Ray sales for Casino Royale is one of the contributing aspects to helping Blu-Ray win the format war against HD DVD. For awhile it was the highest selling BR disc until Spider-Man 3 was released.
Wrong , sorry, just wrong
CR BR had nothing to do with BR begin where it is today.
You know I was actually putting CR as a contribution, not as the sole reason for BR's success. :lol: I am highly aware there were other big fish.

I wasn't aware of the combination of Spidy numbers though. :shock:
Its sad really CR deserved the nod for best selling Sony BR. Spidy 3 was supposed to out sell it by a huge margin, it didn't. Personally I think they had to massage the numbers to beat CR.
Now the 300 and a few others easily sold more than CR.
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Mazer Rackham wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:The Blu-Ray sales for Casino Royale is one of the contributing aspects to helping Blu-Ray win the format war against HD DVD. For awhile it was the highest selling BR disc until Spider-Man 3 was released.
Wrong , sorry, just wrong
CR BR had nothing to do with BR begin where it is today.
You know I was actually putting CR as a contribution, not as the sole reason for BR's success. :lol: I am highly aware there were other big fish.

I wasn't aware of the combination of Spidy numbers though. :shock:
Its sad really CR deserved the nod for best selling Sony BR. Spidy 3 was supposed to out sell it by a huge margin, it didn't. Personally I think they had to massage the numbers to beat CR.
Now the 300 and a few others easily sold more than CR.
I think the take Casino got has put a lot of presure on the new film, the fact that it seems like a troubled production and a plot that does sound like it has been rushed through due to the writers strike we could have an epic turkey on our hands. This year is a big year for the blockbuster
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I don't know what this film will do. I hope it does poorly because in my view it is a perversion of who Bond is.
But I'll leave that out of it for a moment, I'd be worried about whatever movie is coming out between summer and December.
For one reason only.
Gas Prices.

Gas prices are killing us, I don't know about the rest of you. Hope a few of you are better off than we are, maybe close enough to work that the commute dosen't kill you. It is killing us if prices reach $5 a gallon as some predictions have it then say good night.
Right now we are going to be using the stimulus check to pay down the gas card.
Movies that were on the front burner are moving to the rental list. Like the new Indiana Jones, was on the must go to list and now is a rent it first.
The Prince Caspian is still on the must go to list but only because it is a solid family film we can take the kids too.

I'm not passing judgment, I am making an effort to ignore my dislike of the current regime. What I am saying is if food and gas prices continue to go up through the 2008, luxurys like going to the movies are going to be the first to go. This goes for all movies from the New Harry Potter to batman 2
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Dr. No wrote:I don't know what this film will do. I hope it does poorly because in my view it is a perversion of who Bond is.
But I'll leave that out of it for a moment, I'd be worried about whatever movie is coming out between summer and December.
For one reason only.
Gas Prices.

Gas prices are killing us, I don't know about the rest of you. Hope a few of you are better off than we are, maybe close enough to work that the commute dosen't kill you. It is killing us if prices reach $5 a gallon as some predictions have it then say good night.
Right now we are going to be using the stimulus check to pay down the gas card.
Movies that were on the front burner are moving to the rental list. Like the new Indiana Jones, was on the must go to list and now is a rent it first.
The Prince Caspian is still on the must go to list but only because it is a solid family film we can take the kids too.

I'm not passing judgment, I am making an effort to ignore my dislike of the current regime. What I am saying is if food and gas prices continue to go up through the 2008, luxurys like going to the movies are going to be the first to go. This goes for all movies from the New Harry Potter to batman 2
Interesting, thougtful post there Doctor.
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Dr. No wrote:I don't know what this film will do. I hope it does poorly because in my view it is a perversion of who Bond is.
But I'll leave that out of it for a moment, I'd be worried about whatever movie is coming out between summer and December.
For one reason only.
Gas Prices.
Well, gas costs $8.38 a US gallon in Britain, but people still go to the movies there. I think you are right about the possible effects on the rest of this year's movies, but for the wrong reason. Looming recession is likely to have more to do with it than gas prices. people aren't going to go to the movies when they're worried about losing their house.
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Dr. No wrote:I don't know what this film will do. I hope it does poorly because in my view it is a perversion of who Bond is.
But I'll leave that out of it for a moment, I'd be worried about whatever movie is coming out between summer and December.
For one reason only.
Gas Prices.
Well, gas costs $8.38 a US gallon in Britain, but people still go to the movies there. I think you are right about the possible effects on the rest of this year's movies, but for the wrong reason. Looming recession is likely to have more to do with it than gas prices. people aren't going to go to the movies when they're worried about losing their house.
And how long does it take to drive England end to end? A day? Two? They've got smaller commutes and national health care coming out of every gallon.
But I take your point
For us the price of gas limiting our normal buying. I drive 20 miles to work, one way. In a month the car will roll over 800 miles, not counting other trips for shopping and taking the kids around.
Mrs. No drives less miles but has more city driving and more time with the car idling waiting for classes to get out, appointments and lessons to finish.

I think in America it will have more of an effect, possibly a few other places in the world that are more car dependent. Gas and food prices keep getting higher and add a recession to the mix. :? It will all end in tears
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It will be interesting to see how QOS does in the US market. Will it do better than CR and outdo Die Another Day in the US. :evil:

Maybe the recession, "credit crunch" etc in the UK wlll mean that less people will see QOS there.
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carl stromberg wrote:Maybe the recession, "credit crunch" etc in the UK wlll mean that fewer people will see QOS there.
Funnily enough, I've been reading that movie ticket sales have been going up in the US. It often happens during a recession, people want to escape their troubles for a couple of hours. Though that doesn't explain why the frothy, escapist Mamma Mia was thoroughly trounced at the box office by the grittier Dark Knight.
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Kristatos wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:Maybe the recession, "credit crunch" etc in the UK wlll mean that fewer people will see QOS there.
Funnily enough, I've been reading that movie ticket sales have been going up in the US. It often happens during a recession, people want to escape their troubles for a couple of hours. Though that doesn't explain why the frothy, escapist Mamma Mia was thoroughly trounced at the box office by the grittier Dark Knight.
I suppose people have to cut back on some things, but a trip to the cinema is still an inexpensive treat, unless you are taking along the whole family. Even if people cut back on cinema visits per month, a Bond film will be the one film many people see in November.
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Cut back to one moive per month it not going to be a Bond film, its not for families especially not anymore adn its not harry potter. Even if Potter may be a little too pg-13 now adays.

the only movie we've gone to this summer is Narnia 2, and that one been a disappointment to the house of mouse, IMO they released it 1 year late and the wrong time of year. Christmas and cold weather is when people think about going to that type of family film
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I think QOS will do more or less overall. However, I am open to what Sweeny thinks, that it will be much much bigger. It's possible. Batman Begins was dwarfed by its sequel, will the same delimma happen from CR to QOS? I don't think so, but given how these dark and gritty films in the US are performing, I suppose it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. But then again, Bond isn't an American brand and it hasn't made the same money Batman Begins made since You Only Live Twice and that was 40 years ago. I dunno, the US is truly fickle. Still, internationally, especially in the UK, I think it will do smashing.

On a side note, my friend of many years went to CR with me and he liked it, but wasn't that jazzed up about Craig and told me GE is the last good Bond film (he grew up with the Brosnan era). Heck he wasn't really jazzed up to go see it until I convinced him. But now CR and Craig has really grown on him and he really looks forward to seeing QOS.
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Well.......i'll put in my two pennies worth now.

Now that 'Harry Potter' has been put back i'am giving QOS a much more optimistic outllok at the BO.

Anyway here goes

Figures in US dollars:

UK

Opening weekend $30,000,000
Overall $105-115,000,000

USA and CANADA

Opening weekend $50,000,000
Overall $175-200,000,000

Overseas (ie everywhere apart from North America)

$450-475,000,000

WORLDWIDE:- $675,000,000 (well anymore would be welcome)
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I don't think it will make $200 million in the US.
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Why didn't CR do 200$ Million in 2006? There was no competition to speak of.

It may be the Americans are too desensitized to this kind of balls to the wall spy story~ Chuck Noris partnered with a dog, under cover for the CIA with Jet Li as the antagonist.
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QOS will equal or better CR.
Have faith in Craig people, he delivered in CR, I think he'll do the same again.
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oscartheman wrote:Why didn't CR do 200$ Million in 2006?
Adjusting inflation, why didn't any Bond film since YOLT make over $200, especially at a time when people went to the movies far more often than this decade?
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stockslivevan wrote:
oscartheman wrote:Why didn't CR do 200$ Million in 2006?
Adjusting inflation, why didn't any Bond film since YOLT make over $200, especially at a time when people went to the movies far more often than this decade?
DAD might do it inflated for 2008 (so might MR & TND). It will be very close but I doubt it would cross the threshold.

CR lost ground to DAD in the US. I think it will be very hard if not impossible to top what CR did in 2006 worldwide.
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Mazer Rackham wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
oscartheman wrote:Why didn't CR do 200$ Million in 2006?
Adjusting inflation, why didn't any Bond film since YOLT make over $200, especially at a time when people went to the movies far more often than this decade?
so might MR & TND.
Nope, at least according to BOM's inflation adjuster for 2008.
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I had said I think gas prices would hurt QOS, well in gerneal I stand by that. Gas prices have gotten better, but the economy on the whole is on it knees wobbling between depression adn rescission.

Same over all reason but I think money concerns will hurt QOS in America.
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Dr. No wrote:I had said I think gas prices would hurt QOS, well in gerneal I stand by that. Gas prices have gotten better, but the economy on the whole is on it knees wobbling between depression adn rescission.

Same over all reason but I think money concerns will hurt QOS in America.
Well, yes, I think it's already hurting movie attendance in general, so QOS will probably be hit.
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