The Sweeney is right about this. We will never know because EON will keep the tradition of hiring actors that are not established stars. We can speculate that Hugh Jackman could bring 700 million at the box office or maybe even just 100 million, but it would still be pure speculation. One thing is for sure, Craig's film is right up there with the Brosnan films financially and ticket wise. That is good, isn't it?
Personally, I think Christain Bale would make a better Bond than Hugh Jackman. But since he took the role of Batman and became a big name, it will never happen. That's just the way it is. Only six actors have played Bond out of a million other people. Nobody is going to get what they want except for EON. Craig will remain Bond until the mid 2010s. Simply take it or leave it.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
stockslivevan wrote:Craig will remain Bond until the mid 2010s. Simply take it or leave it.
Where do you get this date from? Bond 22 is scheduled for next year and Craig is signed for 3 movies. He may choose to extend his contract, he may not. Given the number of non-Bond roles he is being offered and his lack of enthusiasm for taking the role in the first place, I doubt he will. Therefore, unless there's a long gap between Bond 22 and 23, he would be Bond (or so the movie credits would tell us) until the early 2010's, or even just 2010 itself.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
stockslivevan wrote:Craig will remain Bond until the mid 2010s. Simply take it or leave it.
Where do you get this date from? Bond 22 is scheduled for next year and Craig is signed for 3 movies. He may choose to extend his contract, he may not. Given the number of non-Bond roles he is being offered and his lack of enthusiasm for taking the role in the first place, I doubt he will. Therefore, unless there's a long gap between Bond 22 and 23, he would be Bond (or so the movie credits would tell us) until the early 2010's, or even just 2010 itself.
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
A big difference to what they did with Brosnan - booting him up his backside out into the street!
Anyway, its all speculation right now. Let's bring on 22 and see how well that does. That should give us a clearer indication of how long Craig will stay (but I have a feeling it may end up disappointing some of you here).
stockslivevan wrote:Craig will remain Bond until the mid 2010s. Simply take it or leave it.
Where do you get this date from? Bond 22 is scheduled for next year and Craig is signed for 3 movies. He may choose to extend his contract, he may not. Given the number of non-Bond roles he is being offered and his lack of enthusiasm for taking the role in the first place, I doubt he will. Therefore, unless there's a long gap between Bond 22 and 23, he would be Bond (or so the movie credits would tell us) until the early 2010's, or even just 2010 itself.
I don't think you've read one of the latest interviews. He is clearly now more enthusiastic about the role. He had a hard time but kept his cool while filming and now that he got raving reviews and CR remained up there with the Brosnan films financially, he talked about how he couldn't wait to jump on the next Bond film. So clearly there isn't a lack of enthusiasm. Infact, I think the rise of his enthusiasm from CR to Bond 22 will be great like we saw Connery from Dr. No to From Russia With Love, he just looked more comfortable in the role.
The Sweeney wrote:But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
A big difference to what they did with Brosnan - booting him up his backside out into the street!
Well, exactly. You've just answered your own argument. DAD was a huge box-office hit, yet Brosnan was still told to clear out his desk and not to let the door hit him on the 'arris on his way out. If EON decide they weren't satisfied with Bond 23 for whatever reason, and that they need another change of direction, it'll be bye-bye Danny-boy. Babs is clearly a lot more fickle than her father, who wanted Dalton for Goldeneye even after LTK became the lowest-grossing film in the series' history.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
The Sweeney wrote:
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
If he's successful I'm sure (like you said) EON would want to keep him on. I think Craig is a man of his word and will stay for the three. I don't think he will won't to carry on after that, regardless of money or stature. - He doesn't seem like that sort of guy.
Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
The Sweeney wrote:But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
A big difference to what they did with Brosnan - booting him up his backside out into the street!
Well, exactly. You've just answered your own argument. DAD was a huge box-office hit, yet Brosnan was still told to clear out his desk and not to let the door hit him on the 'arris on his way out. If EON decide they weren't satisfied with Bond 23 for whatever reason, and that they need another change of direction, it'll be bye-bye Danny-boy. Babs is clearly a lot more fickle than her father, who wanted Dalton for Goldeneye even after LTK became the lowest-grossing film in the series' history.
Difference being, Craig is Babs baby, not Cubby's. It has all been down to Bab's bringing Craig in - against a tirade of initial criticism that eventually paid off. I think she will want Craig to stay as long as possible (assuming 22 does well).
stockslivevan wrote:The Sweeney is right about this. We will never know because EON will keep the tradition of hiring actors that are not established stars. We can speculate that Hugh Jackman could bring 700 million at the box office or maybe even just 100 million, but it would still be pure speculation. One thing is for sure, Craig's film is right up there with the Brosnan films financially and ticket wise. That is good, isn't it?
Personally, I think Christain Bale would make a better Bond than Hugh Jackman. But since he took the role of Batman and became a big name, it will never happen. That's just the way it is. Only six actors have played Bond out of a million other people. Nobody is going to get what they want except for EON. Craig will remain Bond until the mid 2010s. Simply take it or leave it.
Bale would have been an excellent Bond as a 'true' reboot concept, not the 10 minutes CR delivered dealing with Bond's 'formative' minutes. Being Batman does not negate also being Bond, IF Eon ever trying to do this. It still boils down to their control factor and not wanting to overpay nor have a true star overshadow their input.
stockslivevan wrote:Craig will remain Bond until the mid 2010s. Simply take it or leave it.
Where do you get this date from? Bond 22 is scheduled for next year and Craig is signed for 3 movies. He may choose to extend his contract, he may not. Given the number of non-Bond roles he is being offered and his lack of enthusiasm for taking the role in the first place, I doubt he will. Therefore, unless there's a long gap between Bond 22 and 23, he would be Bond (or so the movie credits would tell us) until the early 2010's, or even just 2010 itself.
IF Craig's next film outdoes CR and IF Bond 23 outdoes 22, Craig may stay;however, given the Harry Potter factor in November 2008, Bond 22 will only have 2 free weekends to rake in the dough, then be slaughtered by Potter at the box office. It will be interesting to see if Bond 22 can compete at all, especially in the UK where CR shined, with Pottermania. This time, the penguins outshined CR in the USA, next time, a real force in Pottermania may inundate Bond with Craig. Bond 22 may still do OK, but given the competition in 2008, surpassing CR will be very, very, difficult.
The Sweeney wrote:
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
If he's successful I'm sure (like you said) EON would want to keep him on. I think Craig is a man of his word and will stay for the three. I don't think he will won't to carry on after that, regardless of money or stature. - He doesn't seem like that sort of guy.
Agree Skywalker, Craig seems more motivated to do Bond out of money, not the character. He read Casino Royale only after being considered for the role. To me, he will be more than satisfied to do 3 Bond films and move on, UNLESS, as the Sweeney indicated, they bring Fort Knox to Craig and pay him.
The Sweeney wrote:
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
If he's successful I'm sure (like you said) EON would want to keep him on. I think Craig is a man of his word and will stay for the three. I don't think he will won't to carry on after that, regardless of money or stature. - He doesn't seem like that sort of guy.
Agree Skywalker, Craig seems more motivated to do Bond out of money, not the character. He read Casino Royale only after being considered for the role. To me, he will be more than satisfied to do 3 Bond films and move on, UNLESS, as the Sweeney indicated, they bring Fort Knox to Craig and pay him.
Craig is a fine actor and I don't think he would want to be typecast. So it's one down and two to go.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
The Sweeney wrote:
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
If he's successful I'm sure (like you said) EON would want to keep him on. I think Craig is a man of his word and will stay for the three. I don't think he will won't to carry on after that, regardless of money or stature. - He doesn't seem like that sort of guy.
Agree Skywalker, Craig seems more motivated to do Bond out of money, not the character. He read Casino Royale only after being considered for the role. To me, he will be more than satisfied to do 3 Bond films and move on, UNLESS, as the Sweeney indicated, they bring Fort Knox to Craig and pay him.
Craig is a fine actor and I don't think he would want to be typecast. So it's one down and two to go.
Never say never, who knows what the future may bring.
As for bj claims that Craig is motivated by money, well I guess he's been talking to Brosnan for too long then. Wasn't that one of the reasons he was let go, because he wanted some ridiculous amount of money to make a fifth Bond film. Resulting in a bye bye Pierce from Eon. Then paving the way for a new actor. If Pierce hadn't been so greedy you could've seen him do another, yet so much of the hostility is focused on Daniel Craig.
If Bonds 22 and 23 are as poular as Casino Royale, then it's quite possible that Craig will stay around for a fourth or even a fifth.
Heres hoping.
The Sweeney wrote:
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
If he's successful I'm sure (like you said) EON would want to keep him on. I think Craig is a man of his word and will stay for the three. I don't think he will won't to carry on after that, regardless of money or stature. - He doesn't seem like that sort of guy.
Agree Skywalker, Craig seems more motivated to do Bond out of money, not the character. He read Casino Royale only after being considered for the role. To me, he will be more than satisfied to do 3 Bond films and move on, UNLESS, as the Sweeney indicated, they bring Fort Knox to Craig and pay him.
Craig is a fine actor and I don't think he would want to be typecast. So it's one down and two to go.
Two more would be enough. Brosnan seems to like the Bond connotation, and I do not think Craig will, for as you say, he does not like the idea of being typecast as Bond. Craig was even reported to have asked Spielberg if he would still hire him if he took the role of Bond. Maybe Craig will rethink a third film if other roles interest him more, none of which will probably have him the key central figure as the Bond role demands.
The Sweeney wrote:
But that depends on how well 22 and 23 do. If they are even bigger hits than CR, do you think EON will let Craig walk out that easily? Of course not, they'll pay extra to keep hold of him for a 4th, like they did with the reluctant Connery.
If he's successful I'm sure (like you said) EON would want to keep him on. I think Craig is a man of his word and will stay for the three. I don't think he will won't to carry on after that, regardless of money or stature. - He doesn't seem like that sort of guy.
Agree Skywalker, Craig seems more motivated to do Bond out of money, not the character. He read Casino Royale only after being considered for the role. To me, he will be more than satisfied to do 3 Bond films and move on, UNLESS, as the Sweeney indicated, they bring Fort Knox to Craig and pay him.
Craig is a fine actor and I don't think he would want to be typecast. So it's one down and two to go.
Never say never, who knows what the future may bring.
As for bj claims that Craig is motivated by money, well I guess he's been talking to Brosnan for too long then. Wasn't that one of the reasons he was let go, because he wanted some ridiculous amount of money to make a fifth Bond film. Resulting in a bye bye Pierce from Eon. Then paving the way for a new actor. If Pierce hadn't been so greedy you could've seen him do another, yet so much of the hostility is focused on Daniel Craig.
If Bonds 22 and 23 are as poular as Casino Royale, then it's quite possible that Craig will stay around for a fourth or even a fifth.
Heres hoping.
It was Craig himself who commented he will make a pile of money to do a Bond film, unlike his other roles in the past. I do agree 100% that Brosnan may have over priced himself out of Eon's pocketbook, and that was a poor decision on both their parts to part that way. It was more about the bucks than dropping Brosnan for creative reasons, do not think otherwise Nash. "Red wine and fish".
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
And how do you know this?
You seem to know alot about the situation and post it as fact, yet mostly I suspect it too be mere speculation.
And by telling me to not think otherwise you make it sound like I'm not entitled to my opinion. Who are you to do such a thing?
All reports had Brosnan thinking he would get his 5th Bond role, even Dame Dench went out on a limb and stated Pierce would be back until Eon put a muzzle on her. Brosnan demanded a lot of money, suddenly Eon gave him the boot, and Craig entered, after waiting in the wings. Creativity? You have your opinion, and I have mine.
bjmdds wrote:Brosnan demanded a lot of money, suddenly Eon gave him the boot, and Craig entered, after waiting in the wings.
Do we know this for a fact, though? It is often repeated as such, but the haziness of attribution makes me suspicious. Could EON be swiftboating Brosnan in order to justify their decision? Or it could just be a game of Chinese Whispers with one person saying "well, I heard..." and the rumour being passed on down the line until it becomes solidified into "common knowledge".
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
