I used to be such a nice guy
but then I became a mod. 
When was I ever nice?
Like I care though, what one person or even several on an internet forum think of me. Especially someone who cannot win.
Anyway I would like to see this link aswell. If you don't like AVTAK katied then good for you. I'm not a fan of all the films equally. I can see good and bad in all the films. There are films I prefer to others, and that's upto me.
If you only like two films in the series then so be it. Who cares?
Have you seen all of the films katied?
Not that it matters either way, I'm just curious.
One final note I have seen the Bond films many many many time over, especially my beloved OP which would run into the three digit area now.
Moving on to an actual discussion. Wow did you see what happened there...amazing. Anyway there has been a review of QOS posted on imdb.
*For any of you not wanting to know. The following contains potential spoilers*
From "yolt" at IMDb:
Hi guys.
I was able to get the chnace to see the film at the test screening at the So Ho hotel. It was a great expereince and I was able to watch the flick with a great mixed auidence, also the screening room was so lush! But all that aside let's talk about the actuall movie.
I haven't decided whether to make this a spoiler filled review or not, but if you want to avoid facts about the movie look away.
Okay:
Daniel is really on form. i mean Bond mucks about a lot. He gets in a load of trouble and laughs it off. This Bond is like nothing we're seen before. He's raw and bloody, but also charismatic in a real sadistic way. You empathise with Bond, and really root for him. unlike the other films where you know he'll win, this time you're pretty convinced hes going to *beep* up. This comes through at the end when Greene's hotel burns down. Bond is actually *beep* but still has to save the day.
The film opens with a great car chase, think Bourne but on a much grander scale, Dan bradley clearly has a budget to play with becasue from the word go who just rip roars into things. If people are worried where the film picks up, the first sht is Bond dragging a screaming White and throwing him into his boot.
We saw some visuals that we were told were incomplete as the main titles, with a generic CR piece of music playing over, which was a little bit of a mood killer. the song has still to be added and the titles to correspond with it.
But the interrogation scene is intence! M is trying to get answers, but White keeps taughting Bond abot Vesper. How she begged them not to kill Bond, he's lauhging in his face. This just makes Bond angry, even M sences it. And get this..she emptys out the room, to give Bond a minute 'alone' with White, as soon as the mi6 team leave the room Bond smacks him clean in the face, very very brutal! But onto the action: there is a clear shift here from CR, CR was big, loud and proud, here everything looks like it really *beep* hurt! The actual chase through the sewers and the chase on the street last about a minute either way and the roof top chase is hadly that great, but the art gallery fight is pretty awe-inspiring.
The film improves on Cr greatly as the pacing works well, Cr did drag, we were told after the cut we watched was about 2 hours and will likely be cut down further. The things that did not work, Gemma Arterton, she nearly ruins the movie. Terribly wooden and fake. You feel she's there for the sake of just having another girl. Unimpressed. Bond with his licence to kill...get this....dosen't kill Greene! The guy lives! There's a little set up for the next one there as well, where we kinda sorta meet the head of the organization. Felix is underused. He's in the first half and hour then dissappears, only to turn up a little at the end. Despite what you're heard there is not double the action. After the Siena chase we're greated by the boat chase. This is great as Slate is send on a call to kill Camille after Bond kills him and she's convinced he is Slate and despite the fact he saves her life on the boat she still trys to kill him! Very good. Then there's a little action in Austria, but it's more of a suspence scene which really furhters the plot and we get to see the real Greene. Then the plane fight, which is too amazing for words, you feel like your there, the camera moves around in clean 360 swifts and really carries the momentum along. Camille is a great character maybe the best Bond girl. Just becasue she is like Bond in every way, there is even a bit when Bond sees Camille plan the final death of Greene and sees what will happen to him if he lets his revenge eat him up like it has to her, and it sort of breaks his heart a little. But like CR, Bond lost at the end and he loses here. In conventional Bond land Camille would kill Greene and the picture would end with Bond and the girl. Here Greene kills Camille, leaving Bond to take on Greene...there's a final plot twist when Bond is about to kill him, only to leave him behind. It's an odd moment, Bond notices that if he kills Greene he'll be as bad as Camille and the last thing he wants is to be as desperate and on the edge as she was. It's sort of symbolic that he decides to let Greene die slowly and alone in the desert opposed to kill him, but Greene gets a little salvation at the end of the picture.....he gets saved!!!!But we don't see their faces, just them flying away in a copter, he'll be back, i'm sure of it. Felix gives all the details on Medrano, who untill the finale really works as the films main villain, despite what the press for the film suggests it's onlt at the end does Greene really come to the forefront. Mathis is in the film a lot more then in CR.
For thse who were wondering if the Quantum of Solace story is used, then rest assured. On a plane trip to Boliva where Mathis orders the famous Vesper martini, Bond gets angry only for Mathis to explain that Bond is upset as he is missing the Quantum of Solace from Vesper. Bond thinks it's all a bit of silliness only when Mathis dies does he notice that his ally was actually giving him a clue as to the organization, which is named QUANTUM. Bond is sort of impressed, but Camille is less then. When Mathis dies and Bond kills the guys who did it, he's actually *beep* **** and very upset, he wants to look after Mathis as the pair had bonded by this point, but Camille just wants to go to the desert and tail Greene, telling Bond to 'leave the body', but Bond ain't having none of that *beep* This guy has feelings, MI^ are convinced that he's some cold hearted ******* who neds reigning in but the truth is that the whole 'Solace' angle comes in here, as Bond sort of rediscovers his humanity, and sees what it really means to be a spy and do the job. When he captures Vesper's boyfrind, the last scene of the movie is him resigning to M, and she telling him he'll never be the same after everything he's seen over the last few months. He dosen't seem to care as anything seems better then the life he has at the moment. It's sort of touching to see Bond walk away from the service at th end, the final shot if him walking away as the camera follows his cold blue eyes starring back at us, then cut to black. The credits had no music, and it fitted the sombre attitude of the film. This felt like it could be the last Bond ever, of course it won't and some how he'll end up back in mi6 but it was like.............remeber that feeling you got at the end of TDK, you were pumped but something isdoe of you was glad it ended the way it did, it felt complete and that a story had been told in full. Here I got the same feeling plus some, CR left you gagging for more. Here the CR Vesper story comes to an end, and you, like Bond himself, are glad you're got your answers and are happy to move on.
But Bond 23 is 100% happening, after the screening people were like: "Is that the last one?" It ain't, it's just the producers way of rounding off the Vesper story. Vesry good film, maybe not as good a 'Bond film' as CR, it has less of the tradtional gimmicks as the last movie did, there's no reference to 'shakern not stirred' not does Bond say 'that' line. But as a Bond it is by far superoir to CR, it works better if you view it outside the series as it is so different from anything the Bond team have done beofre. I loved The Dark Knight like it was one of my own, but this is by far better
Make of this what you will. Sounds interesting, but I'll take it with a pinch of salt.
...............that post could be true...........as it ties up with info i had read from another film insider sometime ago (though it could be the same person).
