Classic Bond Forum

Post by **bjmdds** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:22 pm

stockslivevan wrote:BJ, the reason you GS, AKB, and especially jb00seven left the site was because of one simple thing: Everyone got sick of their constant negative doom and gloom threads so they rejected you to the point where they'll no longer want to listen and just tell you to **** off. Every thread you'd make would exaggerate something negative and everyone just rolled their eyes. I remember exaggerations like "in the show David Letterman TOWERED over the short 5'5'' James Bond" which sounded ridiculous hence everyone's eyes rolling. It's no whether you like Craig or not to be accepted at MI6, it's how you present yourself that matters and everyone simply got sick of your "everything will suck with Daniel Craig no matter what" attitude because that isn't criticism, that's just looking for anything rant about.

And Katied, Benny is right. State your reasons. Or are you afraid of insulting members at MI6 who could be watching these threads on occasion? If you feel negatively towards MI6 and its users, why do you care about how they feel? This is gonna go nowhere if you keep up your "I won't say why, but MI6 sucks and I'm the victim". No one is going to relate to you unless you tell why.

Stocks, your point will be proven illogical: A thread with 3048 posts, that was getting 'busier' when it was locked, would never have gone past 50 posts if everyone there believed what you just said. It's POPULARITY, not it's NOTORIETY, kept it going. It was locked after the mods realized that they could not have such negative opinion discussed with Craig coming out as Bond, for maybe EON would not like it? The only way a thread topic should end is due to a lack of participation, PERIOD, not by a ridiculous Luds, NicNac, or Simon's judgment call. I told you this before. I had my response post to their locking it deleted by the mods, who told me it was NOT a democracy there, and that they were in charge. They even told me to post the same ideas under someone else's thread if I cared to. This is all way too personal and frankly childish. Ideas should never be repressed, and if there are those who verbally abuse others in a thread, aka Dogbond, that person alone should be excluded from the debate. This entire philosophy of LOCKING threads is ridiculous. If you detest the subject, simply do not read or participate in the debate. To use MI6's key phrase of 'flame wars' as their justification to get their childish ways, while their pitbulls run free, does MI6 no justice. GS, AKB,and others brought wealth to the debate table and their loss did nothing to promote MI6 as a balanced forum. This forum defines it's purpose; MI6 is 'supposedly' a general Bond discussion, general in the sense that if you go against the cloned thought, you will be prosecuted by the fullest extent of the law:Luds,NicNac,Simon,etc. Katied is correct. MI6 bends over backwards for their pet posters. A matter of undeniable fact. In fact, your personal remark towards me here on page 53 of this thread last year would never have been tolerated at MI6, if directed towards one of their members, would it?

katied · Post by **katied** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:02 pm

I haven't posted on MI6 for several days so I couldn't say what Thrice has been doing.I'm not posting there-well, do I really have to spell out why I'm not posting there?Just look at my past few posts and you can see why.

Believe it or not, Daniel Craig is NOT the be all and end all.I think people like Craigfangirl over at MI6 do themselves no favors by rah rahing Daniel Craig every chance they get.I mean,I like Daniel Craig,but even that annoys me.(I can't believe I just said that!)

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:40 pm

bjmdds wrote:Stocks, your point will be proven illogical: A thread with 3048 posts, that was getting 'busier' when it was locked, would never have gone past 50 posts if everyone there believed what you just said. It's POPULARITY, not it's NOTORIETY, kept it going.

Better late than never.

It was locked after the mods realized that they could not have such negative opinion discussed with Craig coming out as Bond, for maybe EON would not like it?

LMAO, right.

The only way a thread topic should end is due to a lack of participation, PERIOD, not by a ridiculous Luds, NicNac, or Simon's judgment call.

They're the mods, it's their message board. Why shouldn't they? They're in control. I requested for a Craig icon since this place is supposably open for free speech but it was rejected. I don't have a problem with that, every MB has their rules.

I told you this before. I had my response post to their locking it deleted by the mods, who told me it was NOT a democracy there, and that they were in charge.

Once again, they are in charge.

They even told me to post the same ideas under someone else's thread if I cared to.

Which you should have done in the first place but somehow they let you slip with that thread of yours. I suppose everyone makes mistakes.

Ideas should never be repressed, and if there are those who verbally abuse others in a thread, aka Dogbond, that person alone should be excluded from the debate.

Everyone felt about annoyed as her so I can see why she was slipped.

This entire philosophy of LOCKING threads is ridiculous.

No, it's just to prevent spam which your thread was and should have been posted under the "CR User Review" thread in the first place. Why have two? Again it's MI6's fault for letting your thread slip.

GS, AKB,and others brought wealth to the debate table and their loss did nothing to promote MI6 as a balanced forum.

How is dooming and glooming a "debate"? That was all before CR's release and all they did was say that there was no room for good in Craig's tenure as if they were 100% certain, even before a trailer was release.

This forum defines it's purpose; MI6 is 'supposedly' a general Bond discussion, general in the sense that if you go against the cloned thought, you will be prosecuted by the fullest extent of the law:Luds,NicNac,Simon,etc.

Pure BS. That only applied to those certain members who you now generalize. Critism is accepted as long they aren't cheap reviews that "Craig is short, the world is doomed, deal with it" mentality. There are plenty of good negative reviews out there, they just don't get as much attention hence why you generalize the doom and glooming members as a whole of the anti-Craig.

Katied is correct. MI6 bends over backwards for their pet posters. A matter of undeniable fact. In fact, your personal remark towards me here on page 53 of this thread last year would never have been tolerated at MI6, if directed towards one of their members, would it?

Then why has oxford bond not been "punished" for going against Luds on more than one occasion? He should have gotten something out of that for going against the "cloned thought" huh? I even disagreed with the so called great Simon in more than one occasion but did he give a crap? No. There is no cloned thought. You're just upset your dooming and glooming was rejected and now you're trying to generalize yourself and other trolls as a representation of anti-Craig which is far off. This is simply a reaction to a thread getting locked far long after it should have been. Heck, why not even I just start an experiment and post as an anti-Craiger on the site but without the dooming and glooming? You'll find an entirely different reaction from these people than you saw on your threads.

By the way, that remark on Page 53, yeah I was out of line.

I was just having a bad day.

Post by **bjmdds** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:47 am

"Yourself and other trolls", Stocks? Again, why say someting like this? You misread me. If people reject posts against Craig, that is fine with me;however, both sides of an 'opinion' should be tolerated cordially. I enjoy all sides comments, for one learns little nuances they never thought of before. Many take these forums as 'battle grounds' for/against Craig as Bond. I prefer to contrast varying opinions, in a friendly manner.

katied · Post by **katied** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:04 am

Stocks, opinions are like a certain part of the anatomy.Everyone has one

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:13 am

I used to post at http://www.alternative007.co.uk/index.htm but grew tired of the site. Some of the members made good points, but then there are the people like FormerBondFan who make posts about "Eon are not going to get away with dumping Pierce. They wont get away with it." Or "QOS had better not be the number 1 film in november.Eon wont get away with it." It's not what I thought the site was when I first joined. Another bash Craig and Eon site. One is enough. Anyway my point is, I decided that the site was not for me. So I left. No-one puts a gun to anyones head to make posts. It's upto the member. As Stocks has said in several posts it's the attitude that the poster has toward not only the forum but also the other members on that forum. BJ's thread was locked because it became a spam fest and turned into a flame war. It wasn't as popular as he believes it was. It was merely a place for many members to argue about things that were not fact, hadn't happened and weren't true. These topics will get locked if they get out of hand. As for members getting away with things, there are alot that push the boundaries, but when they are noticed they stop...or get a warning. Chandler Bong is a big fan of Brosnan, DAD and nearly all the films that many place lower down the Bond rankings are top of his list. But he fits in, because...well he gets along with other members in a friendly manner. Heinz is another.Luds hates TSWLM, I love it. But we get along. You do understand there have to be rules. And they are fair, not made up randomly and do work.
If you don't agree with them...do I have to spell it out for you?

katied · Post by **katied** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:19 am

Benny, you and Stocks are both biased(and not in a good way either)towards MI6.Like I said earlier,the fact that you two are the only one coming to its defense speaks volumes.

The type of posters on MI6=insular and cliquey. I mean,they have threads for milestone posts("Look at me!I have 100,00 posts!I've been here for 2 and a half years!I'm better than everyone else!")It's showoff-ey and annoying.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:23 am

Then why post there?

katied · Post by **katied** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:26 am

I don't.Because I got tired of it.MI6 is the ONLY place I've seen where how many posts you have and how long you've been there matters.DCINB is free of that pretentiousness,thank goodness.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:31 am

bjmdds wrote:both sides of an 'opinion' should be tolerated cordially.

They are, it's just those members you mentioned and yourself are not the highlight. The user Lazenby. has heavily criticized CR but does he get any flack for it? No.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:32 am

Sounds like you fit in here perfectly. I'm sure uncle bj will give you another big warm welcome hug.
I'm not going to go against a forum that has been nothing but good to me katied. I have made many a good friend at Mi6, they mods and admin has welcomed me and promoted in recent times, but the thing that sets them apart from this and other forums is. We all get along.
Even though I have never met any of the members from ktbeu, so many of them have stuck by me like family over the last couple of weeks. Do you have any idea what that means to me. Mi6 is the greatest site going.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:34 am

katied wrote:I don't.Because I got tired of it.MI6 is the ONLY place I've seen where how many posts you have and how long you've been there matters.

That's all in your head. I have yet to see anyone boast about their longevity or post count.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:35 am

stockslivevan wrote:
katied wrote:I don't.Because I got tired of it.MI6 is the ONLY place I've seen where how many posts you have and how long you've been there matters.
That's all in your head. I have yet to see anyone boast about their longevity or post count.

Congrats on reaching 888 posts Stocks. You are a better member than anyone with less post than you...d**n it we've been foiled.

katied · Post by **katied** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:36 am

Umm, the milestone thread much?People post in there for stupid milestones too,not just when they hit an obscenely huge one.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:38 am

katied wrote:Umm, the milestone thread much?People post in there for stupid milestones too,not just when they hit an obscenely huge one.

The thought had occurred, but that's the whole point of it, THE MILESTONE THREAD. Does it go beyond that?

Maybe you should leave this site too, it happens to have a milestone thread.

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/forum/v ... .php?t=186

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:44 am

If you don't like that thread and it bothers you so much, then why read it?
I'm going to hit the 4000 post mark soon.(At Mi6) It's not something that really bothers me. But it is nice to acknowledge a members contribution to the site. You see it's a nice friendly thing to do.
They even have one here.
Infact talking of milestones and rankings, I had the rank OO1 because I'd earned it. But then I left the forums for a while, and returned to see the forum favourite BJ had been given it, and that I'd become an agent again.
I wasn't happy about it when I found out, and was told to get over it. Fair...give me a break. This site is no better than any other so don't pretend it is. But I am accepting the posters opinions and the members of this site more nowadays.
BJ is not my enemy, Kris makes great posts, Carl is a fine mod, and skywalker is a Bond fan, in a similar mould to me. The ranking thing did bother me for a while, but now it means jack.

katied · Post by **katied** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:45 am

Yes,but the milestone thread here doesn't have a zillion posts on it every day

Like I said,you have to wonder if the people at MI6 have lives when they can get such huge post counts.

Captain Nash · Post by **Captain Nash** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:47 am

It's probably something to do with the size of the membership.
These trivial things that bother you, the size of members post counts, the length they spend online, can't really comment about them not having a life if you yourself have these kind of issues with them can you?

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:49 am

katied wrote:Yes,but the milestone thread here doesn't have a zillion posts on it every day Like I said,you have to wonder if the people at MI6 have lives when they can get such huge post counts.

I suppose you're right. No one has posted in it for a week... Oh wait.

katied · Post by **katied** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:49 am

It's always the same people hitting the milestones,thus my comment about certain of them not having a life.