The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[English Agent]

OK Sweeney, we all know u and Skywalker r good guys!!

So u met your missus at an Airport...............you lucky smoothie

Incidently i used to go to college in Farnborough.........pity i didn't learn anything!

AB

[bjmdds]

Blimey................this threads gone a bit over the top.

I wont comment on the Health issue!............except to say that in the UK
if you need major medical care, you dont need to mortgage your house to
pay the bills.

Back to Bond!

I think we will only get a true inkling of what the new film will be like when we see the early summer teaser trailers!

AB

keeping a safe disatance away

Don't worry. Skywalker and I are cool now. My original comments on the NHS were a tad insensitive. Both him and me have vastly different experiences of it, hence why the thread suddenly became heated. But ultimately, we both actually want the same thing - for the NHS to be the envy of the world it once was.

Back on topic, I think Indy will easily be the biggest film of the year, topping both QOS and TDK.

Glad you are both calming down. At first, I did not think Indy would top these other 2008 blockbuster films all out in one year, but now I am thinking Indy might top Spiderman's opening weekends in the USA and that would be an incredible achievement! QOSTBM will have a lot of box office competition this year. I cannot recall one year with so many blockbusters being released, factoring in HP, Iron Man and The Hulk as well.

[bjmdds]

So in your mind bj how do Eon restore Bond?
Is it just a re-casting?
Or a whole lot more?
I'm interested to see what you'd suggest. You might find that some of us here are not so different in their thinking.

The problem for the viewer now, not Eon, is where does the timeline shift to once Craig's trilogy arc ends. How do they re-introduce Moneypenny and Q after DC's exit? That would again suggest he just met them, OR, does Eon have the new Bond well advanced into his career that he already knows them as if Craig's Bond never existed? Eon is playing with 'real continuity fire' for long time traditionalist fans such as myself. Films 1-20 had forward direction;CR retreated to origin, with QOSTBM following suit. Where next, that makes sense? First things first, replace Craig and decide.

[bjmdds]

There is plenty of hype around the new Indiana Jones film. Which will be more successful at the box office worldwide?: The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull or QOSTBM?

The trailers look really impressive and when the music kicks in it's hard not to feel a tad excited.

I think Indy will out perform Bond regardless of who was playing Bond.

Agree. This Indy film might be a real surprise, more so than thought, at the box office. If that garbage Spielberg put out, War Of The Worlds(if someone liked it I apologize) did big box office numbers, imagine what this film COULD do

[bjmdds]

It would be interesting though if Clinton and Obama, who both praise such a government run program, would reference the UK for the shortcomings and not deceive the US citizens that what they are pushing is so great.

Actually, neither Clinton nor Obama has promised a government-run healthcare system. Dennis Kucinich was the only candidate pushing for a single-payer system, but this would have been modelled on the Canadian system, not the British one. Clinton and Obama's proposals are merely designed to extend the current system to try and solve the problem of the 50 million uninsured. But, as Michael Moore's movie Sicko pointed out, they are only half the problem - the other half is that health insurance companies make their money by denying claims. Both Clinton and Obama recieve megabucks in campaign donations from the health insurance companies, so don't look to them for any solution to this problem.

I would not believe ANYTHING EITHER one of these two say.

[Captain Nash]

So in your mind bj how do Eon restore Bond?
Is it just a re-casting?
Or a whole lot more?
I'm interested to see what you'd suggest. You might find that some of us here are not so different in their thinking.

The problem for the viewer now, not Eon, is where does the timeline shift to once Craig's trilogy arc ends. How do they re-introduce Moneypenny and Q after DC's exit? That would again suggest he just met them, OR, does Eon have the new Bond well advanced into his career that he already knows them as if Craig's Bond never existed? Eon is playing with 'real continuity fire' for long time traditionalist fans such as myself. Films 1-20 had forward direction;CR retreated to origin, with QOSTBM following suit. Where next, that makes sense? First things first, replace Craig and decide.

Bj give me examples of any continuity within the first 20 films.
Once Lazenby took over from Connery, and Moore took over, then Dalton and so on and so forth continuity went out the window.
And it's not just the lead actors. How about Charles Gray being killed in YOLT, yet turning up in DAF as Blofeld. And talking of Blofeld, how come he doesn't recognise Bond in OHMSS, yet had met him in the previous film YOLT?
Occassionaly the films put in a line or reference to the other films, but there's never really been any continuity in them. Not enough to worry where the films will proceed when Daniel Craig hangs up the shoulder holster.
Now you've only answered half the question bj, we know you don't like Craig. But you've answered my question/s with a new set of questions.
Just for once answer the questions at hand. And any fan of Bond is a traditionalist fan if the enjoyed the first 20 films or the first 21 fans.
For those who choose not to like CR and Craig doesn't make them any better or more of a fan.
Just to at least answer all of you questions Q and Moneypenny may have been characters that are beloved within the series, but if you have a film with no gadgets or no meeting within Mi6 why would Q and Moneypenny need to appear? The characters were for a long time being used simply to have them in the film. Especially Moneypenny. After 1985 they could've done away with the character altogether. IMO.

[stockslivevan]

Why does Indy's performance at the box office matter? Bond will never make that kind of money, it hasn't since Thunderball and I don't expect it in the future until Bondmania suddenly comes out of nowhere. I mean three of the Indy films made more money than all seven of Sir Rog's films combined.

[James]

So in your mind bj how do Eon restore Bond?
Is it just a re-casting?
Or a whole lot more?
I'm interested to see what you'd suggest. You might find that some of us here are not so different in their thinking.

The problem for the viewer now, not Eon, is where does the timeline shift to once Craig's trilogy arc ends. How do they re-introduce Moneypenny and Q after DC's exit? That would again suggest he just met them, OR, does Eon have the new Bond well advanced into his career that he already knows them as if Craig's Bond never existed? Eon is playing with 'real continuity fire' for long time traditionalist fans such as myself. Films 1-20 had forward direction;CR retreated to origin, with QOSTBM following suit. Where next, that makes sense? First things first, replace Craig and decide.

I think they are just making it up as they go along. Michael G Wilson was commenting about wanting more time off in a recent interview. It wouldn't suprise me to see Bond take a long break after Craig leaves the role.

[bjmdds]

MGW needs time off? From what, making a fortune with the most revered movie spy ever? Let him pass the torch to us. We can write, direct, and produce it for him, at a lower fee than they are accustomed to.

[stockslivevan]

MGW needs time off? From what, making a fortune with the most revered movie spy ever? Let him pass the torch to us. We can write, direct, and produce it for him, at a lower fee than they are accustomed to.

Why not literary fans? I can't trust Moore/Brozza fans having the franchise in their hands.

[bjmdds]

http://men.style.com/news/blog/2008/03/ ... es-we.html A joint venture then. Maybe MGW needs a rest after utilizing his axons and dendrites in his gray matter to come up with the QOS title. I still prefer TBM, for it seems to relate more to the script.

[The Sweeney]

http://men.style.com/news/blog/2008/03/ ... es-we.html A joint venture then. Maybe MGW needs a rest after utilizing his axons and dendrites in his gray matter to come up with the QOS title. I still prefer TBM, for it seems to relate more to the script.

No one knows the script yet, do they...?

[Kristatos]

http://men.style.com/news/blog/2008/03/ ... es-we.html A joint venture then. Maybe MGW needs a rest after utilizing his axons and dendrites in his gray matter to come up with the QOS title. I still prefer TBM, for it seems to relate more to the script.

No one knows the script yet, do they...?

Paul Haggis does.

[Skywalker]

There is plenty of hype around the new Indiana Jones film. Which will be more successful at the box office worldwide?: The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull or QOSTBM?

The trailers look really impressive and when the music kicks in it's hard not to feel a tad excited.

I think Indy will out perform Bond regardless of who was playing Bond.

Agree. This Indy film might be a real surprise, more so than thought, at the box office. If that garbage Spielberg put out, War Of The Worlds(if someone liked it I apologize) did big box office numbers, imagine what this film COULD do

The musical score just hit's you like a tough Polish Bouncer (Not that I'd know ). I think Lucas has produced another gem.

[bjmdds]

http://men.style.com/news/blog/2008/03/ ... es-we.html A joint venture then. Maybe MGW needs a rest after utilizing his axons and dendrites in his gray matter to come up with the QOS title. I still prefer TBM, for it seems to relate more to the script.

No one knows the script yet, do they...?

Paul Haggis does.

And he had nothing to do with it's name

[bjmdds]

There is plenty of hype around the new Indiana Jones film. Which will be more successful at the box office worldwide?: The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull or QOSTBM?

The trailers look really impressive and when the music kicks in it's hard not to feel a tad excited.

I think Indy will out perform Bond regardless of who was playing Bond.

Agree. This Indy film might be a real surprise, more so than thought, at the box office. If that garbage Spielberg put out, War Of The Worlds(if someone liked it I apologize) did big box office numbers, imagine what this film COULD do

The musical score just hit's you like a tough Polish Bouncer (Not that I'd know ). I think Lucas has produced another gem.

Perhaps Spiderman box office numbers young Skywalker?

[The Sweeney]

There is plenty of hype around the new Indiana Jones film. Which will be more successful at the box office worldwide?: The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull or QOSTBM?

The trailers look really impressive and when the music kicks in it's hard not to feel a tad excited.

I think Indy will out perform Bond regardless of who was playing Bond.

Agree. This Indy film might be a real surprise, more so than thought, at the box office. If that garbage Spielberg put out, War Of The Worlds(if someone liked it I apologize) did big box office numbers, imagine what this film COULD do

The musical score just hit's you like a tough Polish Bouncer (Not that I'd know ). I think Lucas has produced another gem.

Have you heard it yet Skywalker? This is one of the things I'm actually really looking forward to. Another Williams classic Indy score.

[Skywalker]

There is plenty of hype around the new Indiana Jones film. Which will be more successful at the box office worldwide?: The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull or QOSTBM?

The trailers look really impressive and when the music kicks in it's hard not to feel a tad excited.

I think Indy will out perform Bond regardless of who was playing Bond.

Agree. This Indy film might be a real surprise, more so than thought, at the box office. If that garbage Spielberg put out, War Of The Worlds(if someone liked it I apologize) did big box office numbers, imagine what this film COULD do

The musical score just hit's you like a tough Polish Bouncer (Not that I'd know ). I think Lucas has produced another gem.

Have you heard it yet Skywalker? This is one of the things I'm actually really looking forward to. Another Williams classic Indy score.

I got slightly carried away last night. After several beers and listening to my Indiana Jones trilogy CD, I wrote 'SCORE' in my previous message. I was referring to the new trailer when the music kicked in.

[The Sweeney]

The trailers look really impressive and when the music kicks in it's hard not to feel a tad excited.

I think Indy will out perform Bond regardless of who was playing Bond.

Agree. This Indy film might be a real surprise, more so than thought, at the box office. If that garbage Spielberg put out, War Of The Worlds(if someone liked it I apologize) did big box office numbers, imagine what this film COULD do

The musical score just hit's you like a tough Polish Bouncer (Not that I'd know ). I think Lucas has produced another gem.

Have you heard it yet Skywalker? This is one of the things I'm actually really looking forward to. Another Williams classic Indy score.

I got slightly carried away last night. After several beers and listening to my Indiana Jones trilogy CD, I wrote 'SCORE' in my previous message. I was referring to the new trailer when the music kicked in.

Ahhh! That would explain it. Alcohol - disgusting, terrible stuff....

Back on the subject, I wonder if Williams has improved over his latest Star Wars soundtracks, as I personally thought the original trilogy score was much better.

[James]

I wouldn't mind someone taking over from David Arnold soon. I think he and Dench should have gone with Brosnan.