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stockslivevan wrote:If QOS is successful, I'm ready for BJ's reaction. I can see him saying something like "that was only Craig's second, let's see if he can keep up that lasting appeal like his predecessors then we'll truly know whether everyone likes his Bond or not"

And then so on and so on.

By the end of Craig's fifth successful Bond film, he's finished with Bond and moves on. BJ will then write a summary of his tenure consisting of "the truth is, the public never cared for Craig, they just wanted to see a Bond film. He was never popular. If you had Hugh Jackman in the role from 2006-2014, he would have been more popular than Craig and the movies would have made more money."

"The public never liked Craig, don't use IMDb as an example! Internet doesn't count"
"Critics only liked Craig because everyone hated him, and they always praise what isn't popular!"
:lol: Knowing BJ I'm sure he'll have something in reserve. (Very good though).
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Believe it or not, if the public really embraces QOSTBM then this is their Bond, not mine, and good luck to them. I would then have to be patient until he vacates the role, but I would not recognize his films as any I would care to re-watch over and over. To think Craig is going to last 5 films though is the mindset of the pro-Craig bunch, and wishful thinking on their part. IF the public does not embrace this upcoming film, count on a very inspirational message. :lol:
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bjmdds wrote:I would then have to be patient until he vacates the role
More like until Babs vacates her role. Given her taste in Bond actors, I wouldn't be surprised if Vinnie Jones turned out to be the next Bond.
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bjmdds wrote:I would then have to be patient until he vacates the role
More like until Babs vacates her role. Given her taste in Bond actors, I wouldn't be surprised if Vinnie Jones turned out to be the next Bond.
You don't think Sean Bean was a good choice? I thought he would be better than Brosnan, hell, I think he would have been better than Craig! :shock: But the series was returning, and they needed play as safe as possible at that point, despite that having any good actor would have brought in the same results.
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stockslivevan wrote:You don't think Sean Bean was a good choice?
Nah, he's "a bit council", as they say on Popbitch.
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The failure with the storyline of MI:I was making Mr. Phelps the villain, which was contrary to the mindset of those would loved to watch the television series. Craig as Bond has the same effect for me as making Phelps evil. Both concepts are out of place for me.
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bjmdds wrote:The failure with the storyline of MI:I was making Mr. Phelps the villain, which was contrary to the mindset of those would loved to watch the television series. Craig as Bond has the same effect for me as making Phelps evil. Both concepts are out of place for me.
Imagine if Mr. Bean had been cast as Bond. He always plays wicked, duplicitous characters, so I'd be wondering how long into the film it would be before it was revealed that Bond was actually a double agent for SPECTRE.
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Kristatos wrote:
bjmdds wrote:The failure with the storyline of MI:I was making Mr. Phelps the villain, which was contrary to the mindset of those would loved to watch the television series. Craig as Bond has the same effect for me as making Phelps evil. Both concepts are out of place for me.
Imagine if Mr. Bean had been cast as Bond. He always plays wicked, duplicitous characters, so I'd be wondering how long into the film it would be before it was revealed that Bond was actually a double agent for SPECTRE.
I heartily agree with you on that one Kristatos. Bean was never a Bond contender in my eyes. I think he's a good actor, but not a OO7. Certainly not for GE.
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Captain Nash wrote:I heartily agree with you on that one Kristatos. Bean was never a Bond contender in my eyes. I think he's a good actor, but not a OO7. Certainly not for GE.
Wow, Nash agreeing with me, definitely a Kodak moment! As far as I'm concerned, there's only one Sean who had what it takes to be Bond!
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stockslivevan wrote:
Kristatos wrote:
bjmdds wrote:I would then have to be patient until he vacates the role
More like until Babs vacates her role. Given her taste in Bond actors, I wouldn't be surprised if Vinnie Jones turned out to be the next Bond.
You don't think Sean Bean was a good choice? I thought he would be better than Brosnan, hell, I think he would have been better than Craig! :shock: But the series was returning, and they needed play as safe as possible at that point, despite that having any good actor would have brought in the same results.
I also think Sean Bean could of been a good Bond...........in fact he was very good as 006 in GE........and this was a major plus point for the film.

But as Sean Bean has said since, playing that part in GE probably ruined any chance he had of getting the Bond role.

As for the other Bean........err Mr Bean..............i think this chap would also of been fantastic................can you imagine the car chase scenes in his Mini!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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bjmdds wrote:The failure with the storyline of MI:I was making Mr. Phelps the villain, which was contrary to the mindset of those would loved to watch the television series. Craig as Bond has the same effect for me as making Phelps evil. Both concepts are out of place for me.
In regards MI:1 'BJ' i agree that making Mr Phelps the villian was an awful
decision.
The film was pretty good............but the concept was somewhat adrift from what most people loved in the TV series.

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Kristatos wrote:
bjmdds wrote:The failure with the storyline of MI:I was making Mr. Phelps the villain, which was contrary to the mindset of those would loved to watch the television series. Craig as Bond has the same effect for me as making Phelps evil. Both concepts are out of place for me.
Imagine if Mr. Bean had been cast as Bond. He always plays wicked, duplicitous characters, so I'd be wondering how long into the film it would be before it was revealed that Bond was actually a double agent for SPECTRE.
That's what works. Bond should be a good guy but he should have some menace like Connery. It's not like Bond was ever that white knight with a heart of gold.

Despite that menace, I would have never believed Bean's Bond would have been a double agent because Bond becoming a traitor is as likely as pigs flying out of Wayne Campbell's butt.
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bjmdds wrote:Unless the Sweenster is standing right in front of him. :lol:
My wife is a dentist. She could sort his teeth out, free of charge. That may get me off the hook..... :lol:
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Kristatos wrote:
Captain Nash wrote:I heartily agree with you on that one Kristatos. Bean was never a Bond contender in my eyes. I think he's a good actor, but not a OO7. Certainly not for GE.
Wow, Nash agreeing with me, definitely a Kodak moment! As far as I'm concerned, there's only one Sean who had what it takes to be Bond!
I'm probably not as bad as many of you think I am.
Though I'll admit to being a p.i.t.a, we all have a common interest.
As far as I'm concerned all the actors to play James Bond have brought something to the role. I can find good and bad in all the performances.
Though with Connery and Moore it's hard too find anything bad.
The C and M Bonds were for a better word, brilliant!
Now who else wants to be in the piccie with me and Kris. :wink:
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Captain Nash wrote:I'm probably not as bad as many of you think I am.
Though I'll admit to being a p.i.t.a, we all have a common interest.
As far as I'm concerned all the actors to play James Bond have brought something to the role. I can find good and bad in all the performances.
Though with Connery and Moore it's hard too find anything bad.
The C and M Bonds were for a better word, brilliant
!
Now who else wants to be in the piccie with me and Kris. :wink:
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The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Unless the Sweenster is standing right in front of him. :lol:
My wife is a dentist. She could sort his teeth out, free of charge. That may get me off the hook..... :lol:
Is she really? Interesting Sweenster.
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The television show, The Insider, was on the set of QOSTBM last night in the USA markets. Craig and his two ladies were interviewed a little bit with sound bites. It was from the set where he swings on the vines and gets dirty. Still looks the same to me no matter how many times I see him. They want people to text message them who should sing the title song and reveal the results next episode.
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bjmdds wrote:They want people to text message them who should sing the title song and reveal the results next episode.
I assume the results are non-binding on EON? Pity, otherwise we could mess with them by texting in Hannah Montana or something stupid like that.
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Paul Haggis, who just did his first 'original' Bond co-penned script, has commented on the title of the script and in essence said he 'has no idea what the title means'. :shock: In addition, when asked about that choice of title his response was short, and to the point:NO COMMENT. This is some way for the writer to relate to the title of his own script. TBM will probably define the script better than QOS.
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Or perhaps he doesn't know the meaning of those words? It's not like he was the only one. :lol: He probably understood the meaning and relevance once he was told. :P
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