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[Pluto007]

If you believe that is true you require help.

Well, I could quote Trump's own threats to journalists, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether I believe that he means what he says. It's whether the owners of these newspapers believe it that's important.

The mainstream/corporate media is sick and twisted. They are only scared of a Trump presidency because they know there's no love lost here. Unlike the boomers in the Dimocratic Party, Trump is using new media, as he takes glee in watching the corporate media twist and turn in its death throes. From the printed media to places like MSNBC and CNN, these propaganda machines are finally dying.

The new generation seeks its news from other sources, hence why Hillary Clinton has stated if they lose control of censorship powers over the internet, they will lose control.

Trump won't toss any legacy media owner in prison because they're valueless. They're already dead. No one takes them seriously, and no one would care if they were tossed into prison.

This idea that he'd toss heads of media in prison is just noise, based on nothing.

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[Pluto007]

And I just am reading how Michelle Obama is now insinuating those who don’t vote for Harris are racist and sexist.

I’m so tired of this trope. And another reason I can’t vote for these guys:

Take responsibility for your collective choices. You ran a senile man for four years. Then, you pulled a coup and placed another useful idiot to run (and they’re worried about Trump and democracy??); they let the senile old man continue pretending he’s president. (Too sick to run for another term, yet not sick enough to be “running” the country)?

They’re a horrible and horribly sick party at the moment. They’re vile.

So put away this divisive talk, accusing us who won’t vote for their useful idiot as being racist and sexist! Instead, look in the mirror, take responsibility for your actions, and start to clean this party up.

Whatever democracy is, it needs at least two strong parties.

Both parties aren’t very strong. But one is now the party for war that includes divisive culture wars.

I used to respect Michelle (not her blood-thirsty hubs who ramped up the Cheney/Bush atrocities), but no more.

Way to keep people hating each other! Great job Dims!!

[Pluto007]

When a blue city mayor from NYC says we need to dial down the rhetoric, and that Trump IS NOT a fascist, we get disoriented by the common sense Adams is speaking. And this, coming from the guy, that was looking into curtailing meat sales (which is actually as authoritarian as you can get).

Mayor Adams rightly stated that he knows what fascism is, what Hitler had done, and that's not Donald Trump.

Will the desperate and hateful corporate media follow Adams's lead? Probably not. But hopefully if a few more slowly realize that Trump is some guy they just don't agree with, maybe then America can start having some adult conversations. But if all you do is call your opponent false titles like Hitler, and fascist, then half the country will just turn their ears off from listening to this (I mean, Romney was called a misogynist, McCain was called a fascist... Every leader of the Republicans have been called this before, and no one, other than those in the Desperate Left Silo is listening)...

[Kristatos]

Robert Paxton, one of the world's leading scholars of fascism, whose book The Anatomy of Fascism is widely considered the definitive work on the subject, recently said that Trump is a fascist, a charge he doesn't make lightly. And again, are we supposed to simply ignore Trump's own threats to journalists? Of journalists who refuse to reveal their sources, he said “When this person realizes that he is going to be the bride of another prisoner shortly, he will say, ‘I’d very much like to tell you exactly who that was,’”. And if you say "oh, that's just the lugenpresse putting words in his mouth", this is one of his own Truth Social posts.

[Pluto007]

What do you find offensive about his post? Other than the rambling, are you concerned that he said the corrupt media *should* pay a price for their dishonesty?

I mean, strip away and crystallize what he said, and I’m interpreting this as: the corrupt corporate media uses airwaves that they don’t pay for, to spread misinformation (in this case Russia/Trump stories), and when he wins he’d like media to be heavily scrutinized.

What, in his monologue, gives you pause, and makes you think he’s a fascist?

And, an intellectual, that I may admire for writing a book, is throwing around the “f” word.

Trump, like Hillary before him, claims he won the election. I don’t like that.

But, a fascist wouldn’t have left the White House. He would have stayed there for the last four years, and; we wouldn’t be looking at a new election coming at us in the next ten days! A fascist would say: I won, I’m not leaving, and, just to let everyone know, I’ll advise everyone when the next election will be.

I’m so tired of hearing this guy is a fascist. And the Dims have misused this word over and over.

They’re the party that executed a coup on their elected leader.

[Kristatos]

Yeah, it's not like he sent a mob of angry insurrectionists to kill his own vice-president in order to stop him certifying the election results.

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[Pluto007]

Yeah, it's not like he sent a mob of angry insurrectionists to kill his own vice-president in order to stop him certifying the election results.

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You cited something Trump wrote and I did ask what you found so alarming.

If you want to go to Jan 6th I can say he was irresponsible in his words, but he didn’t send anyone to kill the VP.

And apart from a cop having a heart attack, the only person who died that day WAS a protester.

But if we’re to discuss things appropriately, can we go back to the post I responded to? What was alarming about what Trump said? I am not asking facetiously.

And as I said, the only party to pull a coup was the Dems/Dims when they ousted their elected leader.

[Kristatos]

If referring to media outlets as "enemies of the people" doesn't alarm you, I don't know what would.

https://youtu.be/zvgZtdmyKlI?si=Ngzvfk3oVLS9hj-L

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[Pluto007]

If referring to media outlets as "enemies of the people" doesn't alarm you, I don't know what would.

https://youtu.be/zvgZtdmyKlI?si=Ngzvfk3oVLS9hj-L

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That was very good!

But, once again, I will go back to a point that I think you’re flying right over:

Trump, like Hillary, said he didn’t lose the election.

But if Trump was the fascist leader you’re claiming, he wouldn’t have left the White House.

He’d still be there.

And there wouldn’t be elections happening in less than two weeks.

There was a peaceful transition of power. One guy left, the other guy moved in.

Please show me proof, and not a very funny clip, of how Trump is a fascist.

When did he round up his enemies? Did Hillary get locked up? Did he leave the White House so a peaceful transition could take place?

Show me the evidence of this dictator, please.

So far only one party executed a coup. The Dems/Dims knocked out the *elected* leader and put someone else in his place.

The most dangerous man of the last 80 years is Cheney, and the dark Lord himself, ain’t backing Trump.

What’re your explanations to all of these points I’ve presented? And where is the evidence, not stupid words that fly out of his mouth, but actual *actions* of this fascist dictator?

So far you’ve dodged, weaved (Trump likes weaving), and sent a humorous video. But this guy has already been in power and the evidence should be overwhelming against him (like in that video you sent: the evidence was everywhere, that’s the joke. So where is yours?? After four years in power, it should be everywhere… But it’s not, is it?)

[Kristatos]

The evidence is everywhere, you just refuse to see it. Trump did not voluntarily leave the White House, he orchestrated a violent coup to try and overturn the result of the last election and install himself as president. The fact that the coup failed doesn't exonerate him. And even the autocracies he so admires, such as Russia and Hungary, have elections, but they're rigged to make it all but impossible for the ruling party to lose, something Republicans want to bring to America using the Orwellian name of "election integrity".

And a party primary is not the same thing as a general election. Yes, it stinks that the Dems rig their primaries to keep out populist candidates like Bernie Sanders. But in the case of Biden, forcing him out was the right thing to do. It was obvious to everyone except him that he was unfit to run again. Do you see registered Democrats demanding that he be reinstated as their candidate?

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[Pluto007]

You’re wrong: Trump left the WH of his own accord. There were no police or military that had to drag him out.

And there were no tanks running up and down the streets. He didn’t lock himself in the WH. He didn’t lock up Hillary, nor any other political foe! Nothing like this occurred except in the fevered dreams of ppl who hate a man so badly they make things up.

He never told anyone to storm capital hill and take power (pls watch his speech on that day).

And, no, the Dims knew Biden was sick four years ago. They were happy to run him back, until his disastrous debate. And if he’s too sick to run, then who hell is running the country?!! It’s insane you don’t see that that what they’ve done, to a democratically appointed leader, and what they’re doing (running the country without an elected official), is a dictatorship!!!!!

[bjmdds]

Pluto, Kris does not get it and he never will. He STILL never responded to his statement above that he knows the REAL reason I cannot stand the Oh-bama and I would like to know what that is in his mind. He lives in the UK and is obsessed with an election in another country. Comparing Trump again to a Hitler video is a disgrace!

[Kristatos]

I should explain that I lived in the US for six years, and was married to an American for fifteen, so there's a reason that I take more of an interest in American politics than most Brits. THough I think most people here are looking nervously across the pond to see if one of the world's two superpowers will turn to fascism (China, of course, has never been a democracy).

[Pluto007]

I should explain that I lived in the US for six years, and was married to an American for fifteen, so there's a reason that I take more of an interest in American politics than most Brits. THough I think most people here are looking nervously across the pond to see if one of the world's two superpowers will turn to fascism (China, of course, has never been a democracy).

I think what bothers me the most, and perhaps it’s unconscious or subconscious anti-Americanism at play (in which Americans share some of this perception in the way we present at times), but there are approximate 350 million Americans. Approximately half will likely vote for Trump. Thats 175 million brains who decided to vote for this man and/or his party.

Does anyone think that the majority of these voters are fascists themselves? Or that they wish to see their rights taken away from them by an evil dictator? Or;

Do you just think a majority of them are as dumb as a doornail.l??

Putting all the media rhetoric aside, it really does come down to one or the other, doesn’t it?

It’s insulting.

So, instead of assuming Trump voters are either fascists or stupid, why not probe a half dozen of them to ask why they’re voting for him (someone who lived here must know a dozen or more of us)? I think it’ll paint an entirely different picture than the propaganda the media is pushing.

But enough of the fascist label, no? Last night in NYC there were huge swaths of Jewish people there! So are they fascists too? Or just self-hating Jews?? Which one is it?

You see? These labels that the media stir up have zero value and they just pour fuel on division.

Speak to a few voters for Trump. I think it’ll humanize the entire process.

[Kristatos]

I lived in South Carolina, a very red state, and I still keep in touch with some of the people I met there. I have spoken to Trump supporters. Most of the time, you don't even need to ask them. You can adapt the old joke about vegans:

How can you tell if someone is a Trump supporter?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[Pluto007]

I lived in South Carolina, a very red state, and I still keep in touch with some of the people I met there. I have spoken to Trump supporters. Most of the time, you don't even need to ask them. You can adapt the old joke about vegans:

How can you tell if someone is a Trump supporter?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.

I can understand that. My wife and I were having a nice little vacation in Marco Island this past July. We were at one of the restaurants across the street from our hotel. The only seating was up at the bar and we were enjoying our steaks when a new couple sat down and right away sparked a conversation.

Within two minutes they had told us who they leaned towards.

But we still had a very lovely discussion, something I neither wanted nor asked for, but obliged. And it lasted for the next 90 minutes. We jousted. But it was respectful and respectable.

But the question still hangs: the approximately (my last post saw me hurrying around and I wrote down total population; that’s corrected in this post to only look at voters), 70 million who will vote for Trump (that’s more than the UK’s population I believe): are they just plain stupid? Or do you think they’re fascists? Or is it a mixture of both? Do you think supporters want their rights and freedoms taken from them by this evil dictator? The large swath of Jewish men and women that attended his MSG rally last night, are they just self hating Jews?

I mean, you obviously believe this man is worse than Cheney who started not one, but two wars that lasted 20 years and his company made billions blowing up brown children and women (which your Tony Blair also happily participated in). Trump didn’t start any new wars, the first time since Carter didn’t fire a shot. So what’d you think the mental damage is of these 70 million? Or will you accept that the media (who now, too late, sees that the “fascist” label didn’t and won’t stick), had an agenda to convince as many people as they could that this was a bad and evil man not worth voting for? That it was hyperbole that blew up in the faces of these evil and corporate/legacy media thugs?

And once again, Trump isn’t my cup of tea. He lies. But that doesn’t make him any different than ANY politician. To get to this level in life, he’s ruthless. But that makes him no different than any other president and politician. I think we will get much more of the same in his second term, as we got in his first (some fine things happen, and I’m a big believer in NO WARS, bringing businesses back, slapping tariffs on any foreign companies bullying their way into our markets, stopping the flow of illegals (what the media doesn’t understand is stopping illegals isn’t the same as stopping immigration); allowing kids to be kids and keeping biological males out of women spaces and women sports…)…

So, between a rock and a hard place, the decision for me became far simpler after the last four years.

The only party to pull a coup was the Dims/Dems. An elected official was taken out of the race and now unelected figures are now running the country. That is a despotic rule and I hope to see it end by next week— or this country really will go down the sewer.

[Kristatos]

Based on my own observations, I'd say that some people vote for Trump because he's the Republican candidate and they always vote Republican. Both Republicans and Democrats have a certain percentage of the population locked in. I don't believe Trump would have nearly as much support if he had started his own America First party or whatever. Others were simply voting against Hillary, Biden or, like yourself, Kamala Harris, just as I'm sure that many of the 80 million who voted for Biden were really voting against Trump. I doubt there were many people who looked at Joe Biden and thought "that's my guy". But yes, at least some of them are racists and/or conspiracy theorists who believe in the Great Replacement, adrenochrome harvesting, anti-vaxx etc.

[bjmdds]

The “world’s most accurate economist” is predicting Donald Trump will win the presidency and that Republicans are likely to take full control of Congress on Nov. 5. Christophe Barraud, the chief economist and strategist at Market Securities Monaco, also says a Trump win could boost the economy short-term but pose longer-term complications, particularly with the soaring deficit. “Looking at different metrics such as betting markets, polls, election modelers’ forecasts, financial markets, as of now, the most probable outcomes are: [1] #Trump victory [2] #GOP clean sweep,” Barraud wrote on X.

[bjmdds]

The left-wing Trump bashing NY Times now has Trump NATIONWIDE +1 over the hyena, which bodes well as they skew towards Democrats in their polling to make them look better than they are actually doing!-------Former President Donald Trump recently appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience as he ramps up his campaign ahead of the 2024 presidential election. With just days left before the election, Trump’s comments have gone viral, racking up over 34 million views within the first 48 hours on YouTube.------the hyena so far refuses to be interviewed by Joe.........Oh-bama's demented wife claimed Trump was ducking interviews as well! What What planet does she reside on? -------Michelle: "Kamala, she’s putting herself out there fearlessly facing down even her harshest critics. She’s seeking out Republicans to find common ground. And unlike her opponent, she’s not ducking interviews or cowering in safe spaces only with fawning audiences. Now she’s showing us what a sane, stable leader looks like. She. She’s not losing her train of thought or stumbling over her words. And she’s doing it all with vigor and with grace."-------the Oh-bamas refuse to realize they are yesterday's trash that was thrown out years ago and are totally irrelevant! Another example Kris about why I cannot stand both of them, not the malicious thoughts you have about me in your brain!

[bjmdds]

This woman nails it! https://x.com/timrunshismouth/status/18 ... 4095307829