bjmdds wrote:Then he should have reprimanded ALL those who did that and thrown them off of the forum, as would have been fair, correct?
Of course, and it did happen to certain members, especially a fairly very infamous one known as bond_fan.
My contention was to maintain the most popular thread by eliminating those who lowered the debate. The problem is, they wanted a reason to lock it due to it's obvious popularity.
Yet Simon was willing to let another BOYCOTT thread be made so the slate would be clean without any dour posts making up most of it. It's not like you weren't allowed to make another boycott thread unless it got filled with trollery.
Bond_Fan was anti Craig. Name one pro-Craig member who was banned?
I can't recall, it has been awhile and the only infamous members that stirred up threads like Thrice does these days were jb00seven, Vine, AKB, and so on. I do remember lots of "ANTI-CRAIGS ARE THIS AND THAT" kind but a lot of these members were cowards who joined up, posted and left for good.
I'm sure there are pro-Craig members revoked, but I don't have the patience to look over three years of threads and see who got the boot so I could refresh my memory. It was a real long time.
bjmdds wrote:Internationally Bond 22 should equal CR, but it will be tough to pass it, even given slighter higher ticket prices. I do think that the USA total will be less than CR and DAD, for DC has not been received well here and CR was more hype than substance. But, who knows.
I agree. The US has been very fickle to the point of having really dour films break box office records like Spider-Man 3. I still can't believe stuff like Wild Hogs and National Treasure make a lot of bucks.
It's no surprise to me that the US didn't embrace Craig as much as the rest of its neighbors. So perhaps the international audiences will keep the Craig films alive while Americans miss out on his era like they did with Dalton.
National Treasure? Nicholas Cage? Not for my taste. Did you see it? I have not seen the first one yet.
No, but I saw enough to not go see it, and critical consensus showed that which didn't persuade me to see it. Cage has done a lot of lousy films lately, I don't expect a lot of them, especially in this decade, to be any different.
stockslivevan wrote:I agree. The US has been very fickle to the point of having really dour films break box office records like Spider-Man 3. I still can't believe stuff like Wild Hogs and National Treasure make a lot of bucks.
Actually, CR and The Golden Compass both did way better in the UK than elsewhere. I don't know how much Craig had to do with that, particularly in the latter case, but it does suggest that the fact that he was already well-known in the UK has given him a much bigger boost there than in other markets. CR did slightly better than DAD in most markets, but I think the UK was the only major market where the difference was huge (I think the box office take was something like 50% more than DAD's). That's why I think people living in the UK are more likely to go on about CR's "phenomenal success", because they confuse a local phenomenon with a worldwide one.
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stockslivevan wrote:I agree. The US has been very fickle to the point of having really dour films break box office records like Spider-Man 3. I still can't believe stuff like Wild Hogs and National Treasure make a lot of bucks.
Actually, CR and The Golden Compass both did way better in the UK than elsewhere. I don't know how much Craig had to do with that, particularly in the latter case, but it does suggest that the fact that he was already well-known in the UK has given him a much bigger boost there than in other markets. CR did slightly better than DAD in most markets, but I think the UK was the only major market where the difference was huge (I think the box office take was something like 50% more than DAD's). That's why I think people living in the UK are more likely to go on about CR's "phenomenal success", because they confuse a local phenomenon with a worldwide one.
Interesting point. Almost like Dr. No where it was a phenomenal success in the UK but the US didn't really catch up on the hype until Goldfinger.
I think lots of Bond fans who dislike Daniel Craig have given up on the main James Bond forums. They think it is a bit rude to post negatively in what are essentially forums celebrating Daniel Craig as James Bond.
Tubes is welcome to do some posts here. Some pro-Craig members seem to do one long-winded post saying "Craig is Fleming's Bond" then disappear.
At least The Sweeney and Stocksilvian have the courage to come on here.
carl stromberg wrote:I think lots of Bond fans who dislike Daniel Craig have given up on the main James Bond forums. They think it is a bit rude to post negatively in what are essentially forums celebrating Daniel Craig as James Bond.
Tubes is welcome to do some posts here. Some pro-Craig members seem to do one long-winded post saying "Craig is Fleming's Bond" then disappear.
At least The Sweeney and Stocksilvian have the courage to come on here.
Like you said Carl, It is easy to criticise this forum from over at MI6, yet a few have had the courage to debate Daniel Craig on here. I think the majority of Pro-Craigers conduct themselves well and are a credit to the forum.
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I don't agree that they lack courage to actually discuss with you guys mainly because this site has such a bad stain from the Brayton era that a lot of pro-Craigers dismiss this site as tabloid garbage and feel like they are above that kind of stuff. A majority of them don't even know that the site went through an overhaul and they still remember it as it was in the Brayton era, thus they will not even consider coming to discuss.
Only a few pro-Craigers such as myself have actually visited it and came to know you all. Once in awhile an immature pro-Craiger will come over here and spam the site saying "BUNCH OF LOSERS, GET OVER IT, THE BOYCOTT IS DEAD!", yet even they remember this site of the Brayton era and don't feel like taking the time to look around and give you guys a chance. Getting CNN news coverage and radio interviews didn't benefit. There's even a youtube of the person known as PlayitBogart (I think that's his screename) pretty much talking about this site during the Brayton era.
Had this site started with you guys instead of Brayton, it could have been seen in a better light. You shouldn't act like "Why do they do that? Why are they so vile towards us?" Blame Brayton. Her tabloid-Brosnan-loving attitude pretty much blew any chance of this site being seen as legitimate.
If there is a time when a majority sees this site in a better light, it will probably be sometime during Bond 22 release or beyond when the hype really reaches high.
stockslivevan wrote:I don't agree that they lack courage to actually discuss with you guys mainly because this site has such a bad stain from the Brayton era that a lot of pro-Craigers dismiss this site as tabloid garbage and feel like they are above that kind of stuff. A majority of them don't even know that the site went through an overhaul and they still remember it as it was in the Brayton era, thus they will not even consider coming to discuss.
Only a few pro-Craigers such as myself have actually visited it and came to know you all. Once in awhile an immature pro-Craiger will come over here and spam the site saying "BUNCH OF LOSERS, GET OVER IT, THE BOYCOTT IS DEAD!", yet even they remember this site of the Brayton era and don't feel like taking the time to look around and give you guys a chance. Getting CNN news coverage and radio interviews didn't benefit. There's even a youtube of the person known as PlayitBogart (I think that's his screename) pretty much talking about this site during the Brayton era.
Had this site started with you guys instead of Brayton, it could have been seen in a better light. You shouldn't act like "Why do they do that? Why are they so vile towards us?" Blame Brayton. Her tabloid-Brosnan-loving attitude pretty much blew any chance of this site being seen as legitimate.
If there is a time when a majority sees this site in a better light, it will probably be sometime during Bond 22 release or beyond when the hype really reaches high.
Well said 'Stocks'..... you hit the nail on the head!
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Everyone at least has a look at this forum from time to time.
You can't tell me all those obsessives on the other James Bond forums, particularly those who were obsessed with CraignotBond's older incarnations, are unware that this site still exists with a new forum.
Their policy is now to deny us publicity, I believe. Because this site is more respectable and "dangerous" than ever.
katied wrote:I just stood up for you guys over at MI6(it's in the thread on the tabloid pics of Pierce and his wife.)
As did the Jetsetter, very nice, vs. Benny boy who took a cheap shot at your comment. By the way, are the diabetes and thyroid conditions under control via medication and are you feeling better?
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Benny's swipe at me was weak.I mean,if you're going to be an a$$,come up with something more original than that(IMO).
So I'm posting over here as well as at MI6.And it matters to him why?I know people from MI6 wil see this but I don't care.
BJ, my conditions are under control with medicine,diet and exercise.Thyroid problems are fairly commmon,but very treatable-but as I said,can go undiagnosed,and people can(and do) gain a lot of weight before they figure it out.Keely probably went a long time before having hers diagnosed, and add having several kids into the mix.
Type II diabetes must be nicely regulated as you are well aware. Glad you are feeling better. Certain oral medications for the diabetes have been in question lately, as I am sure you are aware, unless you are on insulin. In either case, take real care of yourself and you should do just fine. I know people who are diabetics with added thyroid problems and they chronically cheat and eat the wrong things. Hopefully, you will do right by you. Who cares if MI6ers see you post here? If any one of them criticize you, I am SURE Katied knows how to defend herself. Question though, as a feministic type as you stated, did watching Bond films turn you off with the pre-Dench era in regards to Bond's feelings towards women?
bjmdds wrote:Type II diabetes must be nicely regulated as you are well aware. Glad you are feeling better. Certain oral medications for the diabetes have been in question lately, as I am sure you are aware, unless you are on insulin. In either case, take real care of yourself and you should do just fine. I know people who are diabetics with added thyroid problems and they chronically cheat and eat the wrong things. Hopefully, you will do right by you. Who cares if MI6ers see you post here? If any one of them criticize you, I am SURE Katied knows how to defend herself. Question though, as a feministic type as you stated, did watching Bond films turn you off with the pre-Dench era in regards to Bond's feelings towards women?
Yup. Luckily the medication I'm on is tried and true and not one of the newer,problematic medications.As far as cheating on the diet goes,it's a challenge not to..I went on a cruise recently and there were a LOT of chances to go off of my diet but I didn't.
As far as MI6 goes..It's getting to be a love-hate thing with me,believe it or not.As I said earlier, they pretty much tolerate everything(though there was a troll on there late last night/early this morning posting cr*p.I posted this :"Are the mods going to let this stand?It's a slippery slope if you tolerate trolls" and his post(and mine)were gone soon after.)I don't mind that my post got deleted.(hopefully)I got my point across.
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katied wrote:
To be fair: a) Brayton doesn't have anything to do with the website anymore(der) and b)the people on the message board there are open to pro-Craig people(I post there from time to time) and if you get to know the people there and don't act like an idiot, you'll probably be OK.
See I have to disagree with you on that one Katied. They say and think they are, but it's not quite the case. Not all, but some of the members there are out too attack and belittle Craig fans.
As for being an idiot, well all I'll say is when in Rome.
Thank's for calling me an a$$, but it wasn't a swipe at you katied.
But I know where you stand now at least.
I was making the point that all who post here are not as friendly as they portray themselves, and that there are 'attack dogs' as they seem to be refered too on both sites.
The idiot comment was not aimed at you either, but at this site when members act like idiots.
When in Rome and all.
That's not a general overview of this site either.
I have been reading many of the posts over here recently and would go as far as too say that alot has changed and genuine debate seems very good.
I enjoy reading many post in particular from Skywalker, Kristatos (who is well worth reading) and Stocks.
Then of course there are those that have to add the jibe at Craig for no other reason than because of there dislike of him.
That's why I never respected the site in the first place.
Now I'm sure many will see this as a swipe at you guys, and a how dare he...ban him kind of post.
Think what you like, I couldn't really give a sh!t.
Hey, guys. Haven't been on here for a long time. Seems like this site is still active so I decided to post. I'm not a member of MI6, but I am a member at AJB. Now those guys didn't delete any threads or messages about my disapproval of Daniel Craig, but they sure didn't want me over there. Thats why I don't go on that site anymore. CommanderBond site kicked me off the first night for my anti-Craig comments. I didn't curse or diss anyone besides Craig, but I guess thats against the rules. The way I see it....the hell with them both.
The "Brosnan fans are *this*-they *all* hate Craig with a red hot passion." stuff is ridiculous.To say nothing of untrue.
By the same token though,there are Craig fans that are equally as obnoxious as some of the Brosnan fans( SOME,I said!)in slamming Brosnan any chance they get.I do NOT agree with that.In fact it makes me embarassed to be a fan of Daniel Craig's and as a matter of fact I've backed off on being a fan of Craig's because of it.
There's a happy medium between allowing people to have their opinions(which are like a certain part of the anatomy) and allowing people to run riot and allow trolls(I was glad to see a troll post get zapped pretty quickly over at MI6 the other day though)
But yeah.A happy medium.And it's not easy.Being a mod at boards where people have so many varying opinions can't be easy(paging captain obvious...) but from what I've seen they go overboard at Commander Bond, and they're smack in the middle between getting it right and overdoing it(IOW they get a "must try harder" grade) at MI6
