The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

Director Luca Guadagnino recently spilled the tea on his upcoming film ‘Queer’, which is reportedly three hours long and is starring Daniel Craig and Drew Starkey. Queer follows the story of Lee (Cr-egg), a man who recounts his life living in Mexico, working part-time jobs, and using his GI Bill benefits to survive. However, while there, he becomes enamored with Allerton, a young drug addict (according to a Variety article), and an intense and tumultuous love story between the two starts.

[dirtybenny]

Interesting Dan is playing a gay character, considering how activists put up a stink anytime an actor who isn't actually gay, disabled or "dark enough" is cast in such roles. Will they balk at this casting? Hmm...

[Pluto007]

Interesting Dan is playing a gay character, considering how activists put up a stink anytime an actor who isn't actually gay, disabled or "dark enough" is cast in such roles. Will they balk at this casting? Hmm...

I'm sure a very loud, tiny group, will throw a tantrum. It was just this past week where Sean Penn said he'd never be cast as Harvey Milk today, because there'd be some kind of uproar.

Ridiculous really. The whole point of acting is to pretend you're someone else. And the really good ones, like a Day Lewis want to stretch their talents (hence, Christie Brown in My Left Foot).

But a loud minority have certainly made themselves heard, but don't see the folly of their ways: by saying everyone should stick in their lanes, that would mean, for example, a gay actor "shouldn't" play a straight character. But if a gay actor "shouldn't" play a straight character, isn't that then homophobic?

These loud protesters have kind of cornered themselves.

Leave actors alone to, you know, act.

[bjmdds]

From 2022 interview: While speaking with Deadline, per Digital Spy, Broccoli confessed, "There's nothing I can tell you about the next Bond film ... There's nothing. Nothing is happening yet."

"Nobody's in the running," producer Barbara Broccoli told Deadline in 2022. "We're working out where to go with him, we're talking that through. There isn't a script and we can't come up with one until we decide how we're going to approach the next film because, really, it's a reinvention of Bond. We're reinventing who he is and that takes time. I'd say that filming is at least two years away."--------------well it is 2024 and where are we with the next Bond choice?

[Pluto007]

From 2022 interview: While speaking with Deadline, per Digital Spy, Broccoli confessed, "There's nothing I can tell you about the next Bond film ... There's nothing. Nothing is happening yet."

"Nobody's in the running," producer Barbara Broccoli told Deadline in 2022. "We're working out where to go with him, we're talking that through. There isn't a script and we can't come up with one until we decide how we're going to approach the next film because, really, it's a reinvention of Bond. We're reinventing who he is and that takes time. I'd say that filming is at least two years away."--------------well it is 2024 and where are we with the next Bond choice?

No where close. It’s the great re-start. Not just for James Bond, but for all the film studios. It’s ugly out there.

[Kristatos]

This is just another unsubstantiated rumour, but there's talk of a director for the next Bond film, which this article says is expected no earlier than 2027. I don't know how reliable this site is, but it doesn't seem to be pretending to be anything other than one person's opinion, which ironically makes me trust it more than those sites claiming to have access to exclusive inside information: https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/6 ... james-bond

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[Pluto007]

This is just another unsubstantiated rumour, but there's talk of a director for the next Bond film, which this article says is expected no earlier than 2027. I don't know how reliable this site is, but it doesn't seem to be pretending to be anything other than one person's opinion, which ironically makes me trust it more than those sites claiming to have access to exclusive inside information: https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/6 ... james-bond

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I think about the on,y thing that worldofreel has got right is he has previously said EoN seems to be taking their time on this and the next era won't launch until 2027.

I'm a firm believer in this time line.

Now he's saying three directors are competing?

Makes no sense.

All three directors will be on other projects in three years.

The protocol will remain:

Script
Director
Financing and arranging the crew to start auditions
Cattle call
Auditions
Locking the new Bond
Preproduction
Locking the crew
Locking locations
Locking the cast
Principal in Jan 2027
Release Oct/Nov 2027

Director Denis Villeneuve (no I don't want him to be director)

UPDATE:

Deadline’s Justin Kroll, who breaks real news over at Deadline, replied to this nothing “Berger”:

“All I’m gonna say on BOND is this, producers have had no filmmakers meetings with any potential candidates yet.”

Kroll added up with this post: “This tweet is not a shot at Jeff, Berger could end up getting it. For whatever reason, this rumor ramped up in recent days and I made calls and according to people close to process no serious meetings about who will direct next Bond have happened in recent months. Little context.”

… the most important line being:

“… no serious meetings about who will direct Bond have happened in months”.

The last time there was anything to with directors was five months ago. In February. But that director has since gone back to his series that he needed a break from.

When he’s done post on the last film, in late ‘26, he will start on Bond, in earnest in early ‘27.

[Jason]

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/timothy ... EiKOwX-jsL

[Kristatos]

The last time there was anything to with directors was five months ago. In February. But that director has since gone back to his series that he needed a break from.

When he’s done post on the last film, in late ‘26, he will start on Bond, in earnest in early ‘27.

Sorry, I'm confused. This seems to imply that a director has already been chosen.

[Pluto007]

The last time there was anything to with directors was five months ago. In February. But that director has since gone back to his series that he needed a break from.

When he’s done post on the last film, in late ‘26, he will start on Bond, in earnest in early ‘27.

Sorry, I'm confused. This seems to imply that a director has already been chosen.

“Villeneuve admits to ScreenCrush that he turned down the Bond 25 directing gig only because he’s previously committed to bringing “Dune” back to the big screen.”

““I said to [producer] Barbara [Broccoli], I would love to work with you and with Daniel, but I’m engaged [Laughs],” the director said. “I will love to do it, honestly. I’m a spoiled filmmaker right now… I think Daniel Craig is a fantastic actor and I would like to, but several months ago I came into do ‘Dune’ and I engaged myself. I committed myself and I’m someone that doesn’t step back.”‘

This was dating back to 2019. Since then… Villeneuve has publicly stated over and over:

“Franky — and I cannot believe I would say that — but the answer would be a massive yes. I would deeply love to one day make a James Bond movie. It’s a character that I’ve been with — like everybody — since my childhood. I have massive affection for Bond.”

And then he said this, after being with Broccoli at BAFTA:

“I have four projects on the table, currently. One of them is a secret project that I cannot talk about right now, but that needs to see the light of day quite quickly. So it would be a good idea to do something in between projects, before tackling Dune Messiah and Cleopatra.

He only said this last quote in mid-March of this year, yet by the end of June, he had u-turned back to Dune 3, the series he wanted a break from.

It’s believed that this project that “needs to see the light of day quickly” was Bond 26. And when he circled back to EoN recently and saw there wasn’t a script, he pivoted back to D3.

Saying that, D3 has a release date in December’26, which means he’d be finished post and will have locked D3 in October/November 2026 (which is a rumoured date of when the new Bond will be cast).

Although there’s no official attachment (no director attaches him/herself without seeing the script first), the relationship and meeting with Barbara Broccoli dating back to 2019, Villeneuve’s very public statements expressing his desire to direct a Bond picture; his quote about a secret project that needs to see the light of day quickly; his u-turning back to a project that only a couple months ago he insisted he would like a break from, and the timing in which he’ll be finished D3 have a lot of people again pointing at Bond 26.

[Kristatos]

I'd have to dig to find the quote again, but I do seem to recall Barbara Broccoli saying that Purvis and Wade were back on script duties. Which doesn't really point to the sort of radical reinvention she's been talking about, but then, I'm not convinced that the Bond formula really lends itself to radical reinvention. It's basically a spectrum, with Moonraker at one end and LTK at the other.

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[Pluto007]

I'd have to dig to find the quote again, but I do seem to recall Barbara Broccoli saying that Purvis and Wade were back on script duties. Which doesn't really point to the sort of radical reinvention she's been talking about, but then, I'm not convinced that the Bond formula really lends itself to radical reinvention. It's basically a spectrum, with Moonraker at one end and LTK at the other.

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Yes, both she and MGW had stated in ‘22 that they’d return to P and W.

These guys will likely do the outlines and get a draft or two going before other writers start climbing on board (likely brought on by whomever the director will be— he will bring his own writers to the party).

[Kristatos]

Yes, both she and MGW had stated in ‘22 that they’d return to P and W.

These guys will likely do the outlines and get a draft or two going before other writers start climbing on board (likely brought on by whomever the director will be— he will bring his own writers to the party).

I've been looking at his IMDb filmography, and other than himself, he doesn't seem to have any writers that he works with regularly.

[Pluto007]

Yes, both she and MGW had stated in ‘22 that they’d return to P and W.

These guys will likely do the outlines and get a draft or two going before other writers start climbing on board (likely brought on by whomever the director will be— he will bring his own writers to the party).

I've been looking at his IMDb filmography, and other than himself, he doesn't seem to have any writers that he works with regularly.

They don’t credit script doctors, so there’s no way of knowing who he’s brought on board his other projects.

For example, the WGA didn’t give Scott Burns a credit on NTTD, although he did three weeks work on the film, punching up the action sequences.

Tarantino was a huge, and uncredited script doctor on dozens of films.

So there’s no way of knowing which writers DV brings with him to punch up projects, giving the script some of his staples.

[bjmdds]

Broccoli might go all out rogue and hire the first female director for the emasculated Bond she selects so Hollywood can give her more accolades to bolster her already inflated ego. Patty Jenkins from Wonder Woman might be her choice. Maybe a male Moneypenny as well and another female M and even Q!

[Pluto007]

Broccoli might go all out rogue and hire the first female director for the emasculated Bond she selects so Hollywood can give her more accolades to bolster her already inflated ego. Patty Jenkins from Wonder Woman might be her choice. Maybe a male Moneypenny as well and another female M and even Q!

Could be…. But for now, I think industry ppl are pointing at DV for a Jan 2027 start and a release later that year.

Quite honestly, I have no problem with a woman director, if she’s right for the story (on one of my projects, we are only looking at women directors, and not for virtue signalling purposes, but because it’s best for the story.

So without there being a story yet, for Bond 26, it’s a hard call. For now, I’m putting my money on DV.

[bjmdds]

2027? The last film was made to be released in 2018 and was pushed back until 2021. Since 2015 only 1 film until 2027? Ridiculous, but not expected with Broccoli no longer caring about the franchise.

[Pluto007]

2027? The last film was made to be released in 2018 and was pushed back until 2021. Since 2015 only 1 film until 2027? Ridiculous, but not expected with Broccoli no longer caring about the franchise.

From a business perspective, I actually don’t have a problem with this strategy.

Long gone are the days of every other year output, which was straining by the time LTK was released. Then there was a six year lay-off due to court issues which were wrapped by 92/3, I believe? Then a few more years as the team conceived Goldeneye. And by the time this was released, audiences were starving for James Bond and the new era was successfully launched.

After Brosnan was released, there was another four year pause, and when Casino was released, again there was a hunger.

And now that Craig is done, and the last film saw him blown to smithereens, it’s good to take a pause, especially when the cinema landscape is anything but predictable.

It’s tough for die-hard fans. We feel the pains of delays. But when 2027 rolls around (who knows, it could be ‘26, but, I haven’t been convinced by any argument that states it could be; ‘27 seems the more likely year to get everything firing), worldwide audiences will be without a Bond film for six years, and they will want their 007 fix.

As much as I’d like to say filmmakers make films for fans, the vast majority finance and produce these films as a business. Yes, tentpole producers want to make as many original fans/long-time fans happy, but their main objective is to get international markets in those cinema seats— and repeatedly. They really work on the adage of:

A sure formula for failure is to try and please everyone all of the time, instead of pleasing most, some of the time.

Sometimes fans get the short end of the stick.

[bjmdds]

Deadline’s Justin Kroll tweeted: “All I’m gonna say on BOND is this, producers have had no filmmakers meetings with any potential candidates yet.”

Scooper Jeff Sneider replied: “There have been calls made. The idea that there hasn’t been is very funny to me. Does Barbara just sit at home all day playing Candy Crush?”

[Pluto007]

Deadline’s Justin Kroll tweeted: “All I’m gonna say on BOND is this, producers have had no filmmakers meetings with any potential candidates yet.”

Scooper Jeff Sneider replied: “There have been calls made. The idea that there hasn’t been is very funny to me. Does Barbara just sit at home all day playing Candy Crush?”

Kroll is a legitimate Hollywood news breaker/exclusives reporter with Deadline Hollywood, whereas Sneider is more of a TMZ type squirrelwho has complained in the past how hard it is to get scoops on Bond.

It makes zero sense to put the cart before the horse: a script must be done before directors are approached, or directors attach themselves (unless the director is also writing the script, and no, I'd find it hard to believe that Kelly Marcel, the writer of Venom 2 and 3 (and gets a shot at directing 3), will in charge of Bond 26).