Kristatos wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:21 pm
Well, because the parallels between the rise of Trump and that of other fascist dictators is hard to ignore for anyone who has ever read a history book.
Then you could say the same for Obama, who rode in town, so to speak, stirring up a frenzy especially after the market crashed in Oct 2007. Then his administration, obviously sanctioned by the Democratic/progressive establishment, started to express one of their mantras, “never let a good crisis go to waste.” In other words, manipulate the masses into fear, which is straight out of the fascist's playbook. History has always shown that when people feel economic devastation, they'll cling to the outspoken politician who can offer a sense of hope. It's not a unique thing from Trump. If anything, Trump has shown that he adheres to the Constitution, which limits the powers of government. It's the other side that consistently strives to bypass the Constitution to increase government control. Which is why they're progressives. It's the very nature of progressives.
Kristatos wrote:
But the Holocaust was kind of a one off. Mussolini didn't have death camps. Franco didn't have death camps. Pinochet didn't have death camps. There's no reason to think that death camps are inevitable once a country turns to fascism.
And Trump doesn't have death camps either. You're making a big leap that the US is poised for fascism but the foundation of this country, the Constitution, limits the powers of government. But if you're really concerned about fascism, you ought to look at what the radical left is doing, how they have a totalitarian tendency. Till this day, they still can't accept the 2016 election result, which led to their the Russian collusion hoax/spygate scandal. Those are all dictatorial maneuvers manipulating government into a centralized autocratic government.
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I'm talking about people like Kyle Rittenhouse, lionised as a hero by white supremacists
Yeah, but you'll always have the fringed kooks in any society such as white supremacists. But that doesn't mean a large portion of those on the right of the political spectrum are like that. In case you haven't noticed, people on the right (for the most part) have been attacked in these riots by radical leftists. As for Kyle Rittenhouse, evidence is showing more and more that he acted in
self-defense. It's also come to light that one of his attackers is a convicted pedophile and on the Wisconsin sex offenders registry. We'll see how it all pans out in court.
Kristatos wrote:
and that's not even mentioning the police lynchings that led to the BLM protests.
Again, you're making such broad generalizations without putting things into perspective. I don't like what these cops did either, but wait until these cops are in trial and we see all the evidence as to why they acted like the way they did. And just a friendly suggestion, you ought to be careful throwing around phrases like “police lynchings.” It's the kind of phrase that incites riots, or at least provokes hatred for cops. It's dangerous language and helps fuel the lie that cops deliberately hunt down and murder innocent African-Americans. Having researched the BLM movement, I see that lie at the core of their beliefs, and of course the Democrat Party supports BLM, which suggests they're ok with that lie.
Kristatos wrote:
Trump's own DHS says that "white supremacist extremists (WSEs) will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland through 2021."
That's good, and it's reassuring that the DHS is aware of it. It's another form of domestic terrorism. That
DHS document, by the way, also identifies “Lone offenders and small cells of individuals motivated by a diverse array of social, ideological and personal factors” who will “pose the primary terrorist threat to the United States.” In other words, your garden-variety wack jobs in society who are easily stirred into violence, especially when you've got the far-left intensifying the racial divide by supporting BLM and
Antifa.
Kristatos wrote:
Or as Trump calls them, "very fine people"
Dude, if you've been vacuuming up Kilimanjaro-sized drifts of the finest Columbian snow, it wouldn't surprise me. That phrase “very fine people” has been
debunked repeatedly. Omega also points this out nicely in his post above. You're just babbling the far-left talking points. In that statement, Trump condemns neo-Nazis and White nationalists.
Look, I'm not here to make war with you. But the problem I'm seeing over and over is that you fall into generalizations without putting things into perspective and without specifics. Thoughts are complex (and heaven knows my thoughts are jumble of confusion), but you need to expand your ideas with specifics and get away from generalizations because that leads to all sorts of communication problems. For example, you accused BJMDD of wanting to commit acts of violence on liberals when, obviously, he wasn't even advocating that at all. That's a hell of an accusation to throw at a forum member. You need to put things into perspective and flesh out your ideas with rational specifics if we're going to have a rational discussion of current events.
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There are already worrying signs, such as secret police being sent into American cities without the consent of local governmen
Fortunately, Trump has shown restraint by adhering to Federalism. What's more worrying is that the leaders at the state and local levels, at least those in certain Democrat-run cities, don't seem to have any intention to support law and order. What's more worrying is that you got a Biden-Harris ticket, along with the entire Democratic establishment, seeking to limit the second amendment and, in some cases, even declare that they want to ban semi-automatic AR-15 and AR-10 rifles. Biden has even gone on to
assert that if “he becomes our nation’s 46th president, he’ll do all he can to ban and confiscate these commonly owned firearms.” So once you open the door to these types of “regulations,” it increases the power of the government to creep in again and again through that doorway. Progressives love to do that. They
progress slowly towards total government. And that's one of the characteristics of dictatorships: once in power, you disarm the public so they can't oppose or uprise against you.
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critical reporters being barred from WH press briefings
If you're referring to the Jim Acosta fiasco, that's been resolved. But at that time, the guy was out of control and went beyond his usual prick behavior and basically demeaned the office of the presidency in the way he was enticing Trump into an argument. But since then, the daily WH press briefings have been full of the usual anti-Trump reporters. Kayleigh McEnany continues to do a superb job spanking these reporters into reality. But what's more worrying is that you got a media that's so anti-Trump and essentially functioning as the propaganda arm of the Democratic establishment. That's another characteristic of totalitarian systems like fascism and communism. They control the information they feed to the masses.
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and a pro-Trump loyalist being appointed postmaster general, seeking to interfere with mail-in ballots (which are likely to increase this election, due to Covid
How do you know this postmaster general is “seeking to interfere with mail-in ballots”? Has he been caught in the act? Again, that's a hell of a generalization. And so what if he's pro-Trump? It's actually good because it puts a sense of checks and balances to the whole thing. At the other side, you've got an entire Democratic establishment pushing for, let's face it, voter fraud. As Greg Hunter
points out, “The 80 million mail-in ballots and attempted voter fraud that is planned by Democrats is just too much to pull off on this short of notice. We all know the voter fraud is coming, and it is simply not going to work. Much of it is going be detected and thwarted.” For the sake of free elections, I hope he's right.
The president's name was submitted for the 2021 prize by Norwegian lawmaker Christian Tybring-Gjedde, who cited Trump's role in brokering a peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Trump has since earned a second nomination from Swedish lawmaker Magnus Jacobsson for overseeing an economic deal between Kosovo and Serbia. The nominations, however, apparently didn't sit well with the liberal magazine, which declared Friday that "peace had its chance, and blew it." ---------do you need any more proof of how sick and demented liberals are? 
