The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

I don't think Pascal will have the final say, though. It seems to be very much Villeneuve's show, and he is quite enthusiastic about Pattinson. He worked with him on Dune part 3, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was the one pushing for him vs the others wanting a thirtysomething actor.

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[Count_Lippe]

[Jake]

I'm just looking at the reality of things. He's not the traditional tall dark enigmatic character associated with the classic essence of Bond. He's nothing like the guy in the dark suit in this photo. (Then again, who is? There's only one Connery! )

My two concerns with Pattinson would be him trying to play an emo Bond and the suspicion he would only be willing to do 3 films- the latter of which appears to have already been confirmed.

I think we're all in agreement that none of these guys would've made anyone's shortlist here. But I'd still prefer them over another film with Craig, assuming that had been a possibility. Even a goofball choice like Callum Turner at least has the kind of height audiences have always associated with the character.

Based on how Villeneuve approached Dune- where he claims to have regarded the original books as a sacred text- I get the impression that mentality has become a factor in the casting process for Bond as well. I suspect Villeneuve is thinking in terms of a Bond that could be compared to Hoagy Carmichael and portrayed by an actor such as David Niven. So while none of these actors seem to fit Cubby Broccoli's vision of Bond, I suspect they will make sense in whatever Villeneuve has in mind.

[Kristatos]

I think we're all in agreement that none of these guys would've made anyone's shortlist here. But I'd still prefer them over another film with Craig, assuming that had been a possibility. Even a goofball choice like Callum Turner at least has the kind of height audiences have always associated with the character.

Yeah, I have my reservations about both Pattinson and Villeneuve, but it depends whether you want to view the glass as half-full or half-empty. At least both of them seem to have some enthusiasm about Bond films, rather than the sense of vague embarrasment that characterised the Craig era.