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dirtybenny wrote:New rant, as always would love to hear what you all think:

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ous-comic/
Hmm...I'd never heard of this comic, and I'd say it's probably best to let sleeping dogs lie. I have read a few of the Dynamite Bond comics, but not this particular one.

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Kristatos wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 6:56 pm
dirtybenny wrote:New rant, as always would love to hear what you all think:

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ous-comic/
Hmm...I'd never heard of this comic, and I'd say it's probably best to let sleeping dogs lie. I have read a few of the Dynamite Bond comics, but not this particular one.

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Thanks for the the input Kris, what was it Raoul, Bond's Cuban contact in DAD said? "One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter." In all seriousness I obviously don't condone harassment or threats and if that's what they're doing to hell with them. My only purpose mentioning the group is to point out MI6's hypocrisy in coverage of the two articles.
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New rant addressing the John Logan open letter concerning the Amazon MGM purchase.

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... -big-deal/

Let me know what you think here or the comments section of the rant!
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I've only had a chance to skim-read it so far, but it seems fine to me, though I do think you fling around the word "Marxist" a little too freely. It's like the overuse of the word "fascist", except that fascism is notoriously tricky to define, whereas Marxism specifically refers to the thought of a single individual.
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:11 pm I've only had a chance to skim-read it so far, but it seems fine to me, though I do think you fling around the word "Marxist" a little too freely. It's like the overuse of the word "fascist", except that fascism is notoriously tricky to define, whereas Marxism specifically refers to the thought of a single individual.
Thanks for the input Kris, as always I value your opinion! It seems your the only one willing to take the time to give me notes which I appreciate a great deal. Personally I think the term fits in context, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts after you've had a chance to give it a deeper read and chew it over a bit.
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Good stuff DB, always exploring the deficiencies of Broccoli's creation with evidentiary proof.
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Thanks for the input Kris, as always I value your opinion! It seems your the only one willing to take the time to give me notes which I appreciate a great deal. Personally I think the term fits in context, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts after you've had a chance to give it a deeper read and chew it over a bit.
I've had another read, and I don't really have much else to add to your very thorough takedown of the article. I thought you were a bit hard on Hugo - far from being instantly forgotten, I know several people who still love it. And didn't it win an Oscar? And as for your comment about the mini-bio at the beginning, it's standard practice to ask authors for a one-paragraph bio, written in the third person. A little unusual to place it at the top of the article, though, it usually comes at the end.

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bjmdds wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:33 am Good stuff DB, always exploring the deficiencies of Broccoli's creation with evidentiary proof.


Thanks BJ, glad you enjoyed it!
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Kristatos wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:28 am
dirtybenny wrote:
Thanks for the input Kris, as always I value your opinion! It seems your the only one willing to take the time to give me notes which I appreciate a great deal. Personally I think the term fits in context, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts after you've had a chance to give it a deeper read and chew it over a bit.
I've had another read, and I don't really have much else to add to your very thorough takedown of the article. I thought you were a bit hard on Hugo - far from being instantly forgotten, I know several people who still love it. And didn't it win an Oscar? And as for your comment about the mini-bio at the beginning, it's standard practice to ask authors for a one-paragraph bio, written in the third person. A little unusual to place it at the top of the article, though, it usually comes at the end.

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dirtybenny wrote:New rant, always enjoy feed back!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ings-bond/
I quite agree, though I thought AJB was an anti-Craig forum. I haven't been there in years, though.

I was surprised that the commenter hadn't come across "they should remake all the previous Bond films with Craig to remove the taint of Bond being played by actors other than The Chosen One (PBUH)" before. They were all the rage in 2007ish. And making Bond films as period pieces is one of those ideas that remains perennially popular with a certain section of the fanbase. I don't know how much it correlates with belief in the Bond codename theory, but there does seem to be a common theme of being unable to accept the convention of a hero remaining roughly the same age for decades (common enough in 20th century adventure fiction - Biggles somehow flew in both World War 1 and the Vietnam War.)

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dirtybenny wrote:New rant, always enjoy feed back!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ings-bond/
I quite agree, though I thought AJB was an anti-Craig forum. I haven't been there in years, though.

I was surprised that the commenter hadn't come across "they should remake all the previous Bond films with Craig to remove the taint of Bond being played by actors other than The Chosen One (PBUH) before. They were all the rage in 2007ish. And making Bond films as period pieces is one of those ideas that remains perennially popular with a certain section of the fanbase. I don't know how much it correlates with belief in the Bond codename theory, but there does seem to be a common theme of being unable to accept the convention of a hero remaining roughly the same age for decades (common enough in 20th century adventure fiction - Biggles somehow flew in both World War 1 and the Vietnam War.)

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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:03 am
dirtybenny wrote:New rant, always enjoy feed back!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ings-bond/
I quite agree, though I thought AJB was an anti-Craig forum. I haven't been there in years, though.
You're right Kris, don't know why I included them there, I must have been thinking of another forum but my brain substituted that forum for the other.
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:03 am
dirtybenny wrote:New rant, always enjoy feed back!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ings-bond/
I quite agree, though I thought AJB was an anti-Craig forum. I haven't been there in years, though.
You're right Kris, don't know why I included them there, I must have been thinking of another forum but my brain substituted that forum for the other.
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:03 am
dirtybenny wrote:New rant, always enjoy feed back!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ings-bond/
I quite agree, though I thought AJB was an anti-Craig forum. I haven't been there in years, though.
You're right Kris, don't know why I included them there, I must have been thinking of another forum but my brain substituted that forum for the other.
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Something wrong with the server, causing multiple posts!
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dirtybenny wrote:Something wrong with the server, causing multiple posts!
Are you posting from Tapatalk? I think it might be a bug in the app. I am deleting duplicate posts where I can, but it doesn't always let me.

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Kristatos wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:16 am
dirtybenny wrote:Something wrong with the server, causing multiple posts!
Are you posting from Tapatalk? I think it might be a bug in the app. I am deleting duplicate posts where I can, but it doesn't always let me.

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No, posting from my laptop, I keep getting error messages saying the server is busy so I'll refresh until I'm allowed back on.
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dirtybenny wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:47 pm New rant, always enjoy feed back!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/index/b ... ings-bond/
Interesting rant, DB. :up:

Only a couple of minor glitches I could see. In the paragraph about Craig just after the photo of Brozza, I think "Flemingesq" should probably have an "e" on the end, like "picturesque".

The other one which made me smile was "On Her Majesties Secret Service" should be "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", unless Bond's taken to serving multiple queens. :lol:

As for the idea of making Bond movies as much more rigid adaptations of Fleming's books, in theory, if it was done very carefully as period pieces complete with the blower Bentley etc., I'd actually find it very interesting. However I don't have much faith that anyone would or could do it carefully enough so we'd just end up with remakes that still aren't really like the books, or as you pointed out, in the case of ones like Dr No, the original was already pretty close to the book so it would be a pretty pointless exercise (read a cash-in) to do that all again.
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Thank you Acid, I very much appreciate it and please feel free to correct me whenever you like, no matter how old the material. Strict interpretations could be interesting if done correctly, Amazon's ownership would provide an opportunity to do them in a format like they have been done on audio books or radio plays but in a televised serial form. Not "cannon" to the films but as side projects for those who might be interested.

However as you say if done they'd just be cheap reinvented "homages" with goofy back stories and "dramatic" character reveals that have no connection to the story they're telling, but are supposed to hit the audience because we know who they are (see Brofeld).
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