QT is FANTASTIC director.FormerBondFan wrote:QT could always have Pierce to star in his incoming films. Like ml94 said, Pierce deserves better scripts/projects.
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QT is FANTASTIC director.FormerBondFan wrote:QT could always have Pierce to star in his incoming films. Like ml94 said, Pierce deserves better scripts/projects.
Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.Veronica wrote:The Sweeney wrote:Maybe he thinks it will put him in higher regard with critics and the press? Who knows.Veronica wrote:Kristatos wrote:I thought we'd been through this. Lots of actors find their old performances cringeworthy.Veronica wrote:The thing that still confuses me is why would Pierce say he was "never good enough"? especially after all these years.
He may be critical of himself but why say it to the media?
After all the praise and awards heaped on SF, and the critics saying Craig is the next best thing since Connery, etc. maybe Brosnan now feels slightly embarrassed by some of the Bond films he was in, particularly DAD. I got that impression when I saw an interview with him and he started laughing in embarrassment about the now infamous surfing scene.
Yeah,that was in that documentary. Also you could see how he was thrilled when talking about how he finally got the role in 1994. Also how he seemed sad when that house renewed Remington Steele on literally the last day. That's what made me sad. I mean Skyfall?? Don't get me started. The whole movie is just one incredibly empty walk. Seriously the bad guy wants to get revenge but we never know what or when M done... and those "Home Alone" elements at the end. And then they call Roger Moore era silly. Craig being best next to Connery? Yeah and Mussolini is up there with Gandhi(I know this may be a bit harsh comparisment but...come on). Plus Skyfall pulled the little plot it has from TWINE..and all those batman elements and that mission impossible thing... oh yeah and Silva is an ex secret agent(I wonder in which movie I saw that) seriously all those praises on Skyfall-were critics drunk stoned or paid? Maybe all three.. and yes I think this may be due to DAD which is just...a wrong movie for an actor who never gave less than his all(it's a wrong movie period.)
That's definitely true. Pierce is far more convincing in "The November Man"Pierce Brosnan: The violence was never real, the brute force of the man was never palpable. It was quite tame, and the characterisation didn't have a follow-through of reality, it was surface."
For Pierce's case, his era went downhill after GE, and that was rather unfair.The Sweeney wrote:Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.
Suppose that depends the way you look at it. Both TND and TWINE have pros and cons. and they are not bad movies imo. They are not classics like GE althought for my money TWINE had a great chance...TND went through like 100 rewrites...ultimately the biggest problem is that it's no GE and due to the constant changing of script after that bike chase for me everything kinda becomes a blur of action...TWINE is more interesting case IMO. More attention went to the characters and story was more character driven-I like that. But it's like they didn't go all the way with it. They wanted something more thoughful and yet they didn't wanna break the formula too much. That's why we are stuck with Xmas Jones...FormerBondFan wrote:For Pierce's case, his era went downhill after GE, and that was rather unfair.The Sweeney wrote:Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.
You might argue about DAD, otherwise he had a decent run.FormerBondFan wrote:For Pierce's case, his era went downhill after GE, and that was rather unfair.The Sweeney wrote:Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.
Pierce showed he had the ability to play Bond more, dark, I suppose is the correct term. He had a list of complaints about not being able to make 007 his own, Bond 21 then tentatively Casino Royale was I think his chance to make his mark on Bond. At least I believe he saw it this way. The over the top praise for dumbed down 007 hurt his pride as an actor in my opinion, it was after all the movie he got rolling. He never got to go out on his own terms as Sean, George and Roger did.WXN Jamaica wrote:That's definitely true. Pierce is far more convincing in "The November Man"Pierce Brosnan: The violence was never real, the brute force of the man was never palpable. It was quite tame, and the characterisation didn't have a follow-through of reality, it was surface."and, previously, in the very underrated "Shattered".
I think he could have been an excellent 007 if he could have had the same characterisation of Bond than he did for his role in "Seraphim Falls".
Pierce's Bond career had A LOT of potential to prosper after GE in critical terms, and it was rather unfair that it didn't.Veronica wrote:Suppose that depends the way you look at it.FormerBondFan wrote:For Pierce's case, his era went downhill after GE, and that was rather unfair.The Sweeney wrote:Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.
Financially yes though TND under-performed worldwide due to Titanic.Blowfeld wrote:You might argue about DAD, otherwise he had a decent run.FormerBondFan wrote:For Pierce's case, his era went downhill after GE, and that was rather unfair.The Sweeney wrote:Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.
Well,that's true. I think the producers just couldn't put their stuff together. After GE they wanted another success like that so TND production soon began and due to the problems it didn't upstage GE but was a financial success and was generally well recieved. But after that wanted something more character-driven and then TWINE comes into the story. And I don't know who screwed up here really. I guess anyone who though they NEED another Bond girl.that's why I see a huge difference between let's say Tanya Robert and Richards. AVTAK was a general,more light-hearted movie while this one actually had dark themes like rape,kidnaping,consequences of that...and Apted was saying how the relationship between Bond and Elektra was the centre of everything...another Bond girl just doesn't have any buissness here and plus if she is poorly acted and has cluncky lines...you get Xmas...FormerBondFan wrote:Pierce's Bond career had A LOT of potential to prosper after GE in critical terms, and it was rather unfair that it didn't.Veronica wrote:Suppose that depends the way you look at it.FormerBondFan wrote:For Pierce's case, his era went downhill after GE, and that was rather unfair.The Sweeney wrote:Yes, its a shame the Brosnan era didn't end on a high. To end it on DAD was bad. Funny enough, the 3 longest serving Bond actors (until Craig), all ended their reigns on films that were not very highly thought of - Connery with DAF, Moore with AVTAK, and Brosnan with DAD.