US Election 2012

[Kristatos]

The Kennedy clan shoveled their dough supposedly to outside of the USA accounts so there are no generational inheritance taxes to pay. Typical elite liberals. Let Hollywood people give all of their income to the government. Let Al Gore ride horseback before he tells me not to fly a plane or drive a car while he flies around in his private carbon footprint producing personal jets.

My point is that the elites represent maybe 1-2% of the population, so saying that liberals pour their money into offshore tax havens is like saying that New Yorkers or Italian-Americans or any other group of people all pour their money into offshore tax havens. By the law of averages, most of them probably don't.

[bjmdds]

The loud mouth ones like the Kennedys and the Pelosis sure do. Pelosi got waivers for health care that SHE helped pass, yet she wants her district in San Francisco exempt? Give me a break!

[carl stromberg]

There have been quite a few reports on the Republican candidacy on UK TV lately. Newt is having a go.

[Bond77]

There have been quite a few reports on the Republican candidacy on UK TV lately. Newt is having a go.

That's right. Newt's in, but he has been stumbling. Mitch Daniels is out as of today. It looks like lineup thus far is Mitt Romney, Herman Cain, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, John Huntsman, and maybe Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman.

Let me know if I missed anyone. Sorry BJ, I haven't seen John Thune's name out there. He must be content being a Senator. Maybe he's planning on getting a nice chairmanship if the Republicans take the Senate in this election cycle.

[bjmdds]

Thune has been silent so far. More important though is this: "The key finding in the telephone poll of 1,070 likely voters is that network news is dying. Some 28 percent say that they trust Fox News the most, followed by CNN at 18 percent. After that, the trust in TV news nose dives. NBC was third, at 10 percent, MSNBC fourth at 7 percent, CBS and ABC tied at fifth with just 6 percent." Meaning that people do get it, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS have NO bearing on any elections any longer. WE the people know the truth.

[bjmdds]

"Suffolk offered 28 different TV news personalities for poll takers to decide from on the trust question. As a result, the results were in single digits.

But of the top 10 most trusted new sources, O'Reilly is king, at 9 percent. CNN's Anderson Cooper followed at 6 percent, Fox's Mike Huckabee at 4 percent, Fox's Sean Hannity at 4 percent, Wolf Blitzer was sixth at 3 percent, followed by MSNBC's Chris Matthews at 3 percent, NBC newsman Tom Brokaw at 3 percent, CBS anchor Katie Couric at 3 percent and ABC's Diane Sawyer at 3 percent.

Being in the middle of the Top 10 was good for Blitzer, host The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer. He tells us, "Happy to be Number Six. It's a very nice number—always has been one of my favorites." This also PROVES we the people know the truth. The daily liberal rantings and ravings have buried their collective reputations and that despicable manhole cover face Chris Matthews should be canned, not given 2 separate weekly shows. Oh-bama is going down.....

[bjmdds]

"There was tie for last on the list. CNN's Elliot Spitzer and NBC Meet the Press host David Gregory each were the pick of just two of the 1,070 poll takers." Excellent polling proving these 2 liberal stooges are a disgrace to humanity. Gregory is no Russert and he should and will be fired at some point in the near future. He looks like you could use him as a mop and clean floors with his lousy hair style.

[Kristatos]

"There was tie for last on the list. CNN's Elliot Spitzer and NBC Meet the Press host David Gregory each were the pick of just two of the 1,070 poll takers." Excellent polling proving these 2 liberal stooges are a disgrace to humanity. Gregory is no Russert and he should and will be fired at some point in the near future. He looks like you could use him as a mop and clean floors with his lousy hair style.

I thought Gregory was a conservative?

[Kristatos]

But of the top 10 most trusted new sources, O'Reilly is king, at 9 percent.

I don't know which is funnier, the idea that Papa Bear is a "trusted news source" or the fact that an approval rating of 9% was enough to secure him the title of "king".

[bjmdds]

28 names were used to choose from, that is why 9% was the winner. David Gregory is 1000000% pure ultra left winger liberal Oh-bama supporter.

[Kristatos]

28 names were used to choose from, that is why 9% was the winner. David Gregory is 1000000% pure ultra left winger liberal Oh-bama supporter.

Wasn't he a buddy of Karl Rove and Michael Chertoff?

So, when you say the 28 names were used, was it a case that all the percentages had to add up to 100%? Pity, I thought it showed that people had become as scepical of the media as it deserves.

[bjmdds]

It has been mentioned that Michael Chertoff, a Bush appointee, attended a baby shower for his children.[21]
He also participated with Karl Rove, Bush's chief advisor, in a skit for the White House Correspondents Dinner in Washington DC.[22]
[edit]Press Secretary conflicts
Gregory's interaction with Bush's Press Secretaries has been contentious at times, garnering media attention in several instances. Numerous commentators have used these incidents to characterize Gregory's reportage as 'proof' of the news media's left-wing bias.[21][23] Gregory has told Howard Kurtz that "it's easy to divert attention against a familiar whipping boy" and that "I provide fodder for critics who say, 'Aha, they're out of control.'"[21]
On January 23, 2009, The Daily Beast columnist Ana Marie Cox stated that President Barack Obama still has not discovered "this administration's David Gregory". She used Gregory as a metaphor for a White House foil, and she described this as a figure that could be interpreted as either "tough, news-oriented, and no-nonsense or showy, superficial, and self-indulgent".[24] Gregory might be socially friendly with Bush's guys but NOT politically. He looks older than 40 as well.

[Kristatos]

He's also been accused of right-wing bias. Politicians are always screaming "bias!" in order to deter journalists from asking tough questions.

[Dr. Joseph]

I don't think Obama is going to be invited back for a second term. Simply because he over promised himself and delivered a rotten economy, for those whos' way of life was affected directly by the disastrous economic conditions the dislike of his policies will over rule Obama's personal likeability. Unless the Republicans run someone line Newton Leroy Gingrich.

Why Barack Obama may be heading for electoral disaster in 2012
On a recent visit to London I was struck by how much faith many British politicians, journalists and political advisers have in Barack Obama being re-elected in 2012. In the aftermath of the hugely successful Special Forces operation that took out Osama Bin Laden and a modest spike in the polls for the president, the conventional wisdom among political elites in Britain is overwhelmingly that Obama will win another four years in the Oval Office. Add to this a widespread perception of continuing disarray in the Republican race, as well as a State Visit to London that had the chattering classes worshipping at the feet of the US president, and you can easily see why Obama’s prospects look a lot rosier from across the Atlantic.

But back in the United States, the reality looks a lot different. Many political leaders in Britain fail to understand the degree to which the American people are deeply unhappy with their president’s poor handling of the economy. Nor have they grasped the epic scale of the defeat suffered by the president in the November mid-terms, and the emphatic rejection by a clear majority of Americans of the Big Government Obama agenda.

Just seven months ago, the United States was swept by a conservative revolution that fundamentally transformed the political landscape on Capitol Hill, and gravely weakened the ability of the president to pass legislation. This revolution is not in retreat but gaining ground, led by charismatic figures such as Paul Ryan, the Reaganite chairman of the House Budget Committee, entrusted with reining in out of control government spending. And as a Gallup poll showed, America is unquestionably a conservative country ideologically, but one that is ironically led by the most left-wing president in the nation’s history.

Ultimately, the 2012 presidential election will be decided by the state of the economy, and new data released this week makes grim reading for the White House. In fact you cannot watch a US financial news network at the moment, from Bloomberg to CNBC to Fox Business, without a great deal of pessimism about the dire condition of the world’s biggest economy. 66 percent of Americans now worry the federal government will run out of money in the face of towering public debts.

To say this has been an extremely bad week for the Obama administration on the economic front would be a serious understatement. As The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, home prices in the United States have sunk to their lowest levels since 2002, falling 4.2 percent in the first quarter of 2011. At the same time, employment growth is stalling, with only 38,000 Americans added to the workforce in May, the smallest increase since September. This compares with 179,000 jobs added in April. There has also been a steep slowdown in the manufacturing sector, and a downturn in the stock market on the back of weak economic news.

Bill Clinton’s labour secretary Robert Reich summed up the grim mood in a hard-hitting op-ed in The Financial Times, which took aim at both the administration and Congress:

[dir=ltr]The US economy was supposed to be in bloom by late spring, but it is hardly growing at all. Expectations for second-quarter growth are not much better than the measly 1.8 per cent annualised rate of the first quarter. That is not nearly fast enough to reduce America’s ferociously high level of unemployment… Meanwhile, housing prices continue to fall. They are now 33 per cent below their 2006 peak. That is a bigger drop than recorded in the Great Depression. Homes are the largest single asset of the American middle class, so as housing prices drop many Americans feel poorer. All of this is contributing to a general gloominess. Not surprisingly, consumer confidence is also down.[/dir]

Unsurprisingly, the polls are again looking problematic for the president. The latest Rasmussen Presidential Tracking Poll shows just 25 percent of Americans strongly approving of Obama’s performance, with 36 percent strongly disapproving, for a Presidential Approval Index rating of minus 11 points. In a projected match up between Obama and a Republican opponent, the president now trails by two points according to Rasmussen – 43 to 45. The RealClear Politics poll of polls shows just over a third of Americans (34.5 percent) agreeing that the country is heading in the right direction, with nearly three fifths (56.8 percent) believing it is heading down the wrong track. That negative figure rises to a staggering 66 percent of likely voters in a new Rasmussen survey, including 41 percent of Democrats.

There is no feel good factor in America at the moment. But there is a great deal of uncertainty, nervousness, even fear over the future of the world’s only superpower. This is hardly a solid foundation for a presidential victory for the incumbent. Even though we don’t know yet who he will be up against, Barack Obama could well go into 2012 as the underdog rather than the favourite he is frequently portrayed as. On balance we’re likely to see a very close race 17 months from now. But there is also the distinct possibility of an electoral rout of the president if the economy goes further south. “Hope and change” might have played well in 2008, but it is a message that will likely ring hollow in November 2012, with an American public that is deeply disillusioned with the direction Obama is taking the country.

Tags: 2012 election, Barack Obama, Gallup Poll, paul ryan, Rasmussen Poll, RealClearPolitics, Robert Reich, Ronald Reagan, US economy

[Bond77]

I don't think Obama is going to be invited back for a second term. Simply because he over promised himself and delivered a rotten economy, for those whos' way of life was affected directly by the disastrous economic conditions the dislike of his policies will over rule Obama's personal likeability. Unless the Republicans run someone line Newton Leroy Gingrich.

Why Barack Obama may be heading for electoral disaster in 2012
On a recent visit to London I was struck by how much faith many British politicians, journalists and political advisers have in Barack Obama being re-elected in 2012. In the aftermath of the hugely successful Special Forces operation that took out Osama Bin Laden and a modest spike in the polls for the president, the conventional wisdom among political elites in Britain is overwhelmingly that Obama will win another four years in the Oval Office. Add to this a widespread perception of continuing disarray in the Republican race, as well as a State Visit to London that had the chattering classes worshipping at the feet of the US president, and you can easily see why Obama’s prospects look a lot rosier from across the Atlantic.

But back in the United States, the reality looks a lot different. Many political leaders in Britain fail to understand the degree to which the American people are deeply unhappy with their president’s poor handling of the economy. Nor have they grasped the epic scale of the defeat suffered by the president in the November mid-terms, and the emphatic rejection by a clear majority of Americans of the Big Government Obama agenda.

Just seven months ago, the United States was swept by a conservative revolution that fundamentally transformed the political landscape on Capitol Hill, and gravely weakened the ability of the president to pass legislation. This revolution is not in retreat but gaining ground, led by charismatic figures such as Paul Ryan, the Reaganite chairman of the House Budget Committee, entrusted with reining in out of control government spending. And as a Gallup poll showed, America is unquestionably a conservative country ideologically, but one that is ironically led by the most left-wing president in the nation’s history.

Ultimately, the 2012 presidential election will be decided by the state of the economy, and new data released this week makes grim reading for the White House. In fact you cannot watch a US financial news network at the moment, from Bloomberg to CNBC to Fox Business, without a great deal of pessimism about the dire condition of the world’s biggest economy. 66 percent of Americans now worry the federal government will run out of money in the face of towering public debts.

To say this has been an extremely bad week for the Obama administration on the economic front would be a serious understatement. As The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, home prices in the United States have sunk to their lowest levels since 2002, falling 4.2 percent in the first quarter of 2011. At the same time, employment growth is stalling, with only 38,000 Americans added to the workforce in May, the smallest increase since September. This compares with 179,000 jobs added in April. There has also been a steep slowdown in the manufacturing sector, and a downturn in the stock market on the back of weak economic news.

Bill Clinton’s labour secretary Robert Reich summed up the grim mood in a hard-hitting op-ed in The Financial Times, which took aim at both the administration and Congress:

[dir=ltr]The US economy was supposed to be in bloom by late spring, but it is hardly growing at all. Expectations for second-quarter growth are not much better than the measly 1.8 per cent annualised rate of the first quarter. That is not nearly fast enough to reduce America’s ferociously high level of unemployment… Meanwhile, housing prices continue to fall. They are now 33 per cent below their 2006 peak. That is a bigger drop than recorded in the Great Depression. Homes are the largest single asset of the American middle class, so as housing prices drop many Americans feel poorer. All of this is contributing to a general gloominess. Not surprisingly, consumer confidence is also down.[/dir]

Unsurprisingly, the polls are again looking problematic for the president. The latest Rasmussen Presidential Tracking Poll shows just 25 percent of Americans strongly approving of Obama’s performance, with 36 percent strongly disapproving, for a Presidential Approval Index rating of minus 11 points. In a projected match up between Obama and a Republican opponent, the president now trails by two points according to Rasmussen – 43 to 45. The RealClear Politics poll of polls shows just over a third of Americans (34.5 percent) agreeing that the country is heading in the right direction, with nearly three fifths (56.8 percent) believing it is heading down the wrong track. That negative figure rises to a staggering 66 percent of likely voters in a new Rasmussen survey, including 41 percent of Democrats.

There is no feel good factor in America at the moment. But there is a great deal of uncertainty, nervousness, even fear over the future of the world’s only superpower. This is hardly a solid foundation for a presidential victory for the incumbent. Even though we don’t know yet who he will be up against, Barack Obama could well go into 2012 as the underdog rather than the favourite he is frequently portrayed as. On balance we’re likely to see a very close race 17 months from now. But there is also the distinct possibility of an electoral rout of the president if the economy goes further south. “Hope and change” might have played well in 2008, but it is a message that will likely ring hollow in November 2012, with an American public that is deeply disillusioned with the direction Obama is taking the country.

Tags: 2012 election, Barack Obama, Gallup Poll, paul ryan, Rasmussen Poll, RealClearPolitics, Robert Reich, Ronald Reagan, US economy

I was just reading this earlier today and now here it is on a Bond forum!

Nile Gardiner accurately describes the mood of the U.S. right now. Obama will have an uphill battle winning reelection. It's a good article.

What do UK members of the forum think of Obama?

In other news, it looks like Mitt Romney has announced officially (no surprise).

[bjmdds]

Do NOT believe the rear-end Oh-bama kissing liberal media. There is NO disarray in the Republican field and candidates will all announce in due time. Bachman is next to announce. Oh-bama's health care mandate for 2013 will be the cornerstone of the election here as well as job creation. Bin Laden is yesterday's news. USA voters could care minimally about that now. Oh-bama has hired someone to check out all internet and media negative criticisms about the narcissistic one. If they read this thread, tell your boss he is going down in 2012. Enough of this self-loved character in the oval office.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

I don't mind him, although many people went a bit over the top when he was elected. He is not that left-wing is he, or perhaps he is by US standards.

I think the chap in the Telegraph blog is quite conservative!!

Is the US economy in trouble because of the world financial system or because Obama is more social democratic? Can traditional US right-wing economic liberal policies revive the US economy or does that not work any more?

We need a US presidents of the last 30 years poll!

[Kristatos]

I don't mind him, although many people went a bit over the top when he was elected. He is not that left-wing is he, or perhaps he is by US standards.

He's not even that left-wing by American standards. Policy-wise, there's not that much to distinguish him from moderate Republicans. But he is a masterful orator who can convince liberals that he is on their side with gestures like repealing "don't ask, don't tell" laws in the military and killing Osama bin Laden (equally popular with liberals and conservatives), whilst keeping Guantanamo open, extending Bush's tax cuts for the rich, going to war in Afghanistan and promoting "healthcare reform" that is just a giveaway to insurance companies.

[bjmdds]

http://business.newsvine.com/_news/2011 ... bor-market Read the comments at the bottom. This is from MSNBC to boot and these people love Oh-bama. The problem is the people do not. He will be toast in 2012 so long as Palin is not running. Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio are the 3 key states the Republican MUST win.

[Kristatos]

Comments on an Internet message board are no way to judge the public mood. The commenters are self-selecting, and lobbyists for various industries have developed sophisticated "persona management software" to make themselves look convincingly like crowds of people. See this article on the subject: http://www.monbiot.com/2011/02/23/robot-wars/