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Well said NS! I just updated my "Therapist" article to include that new little wrinkle. Bond dying in NTTD was apparently a condition made by Craig for his return. So we can lay that directly at his feet and those of Babzy Broccoli and her unhealthy obsession with the crumb.
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Well done, Benny! I can't wait for your thoughts on the main titles and the "chocolate Bond" shattering in many pieces, as someone said.

By the way, I'm sure you (and everyone here) will like this: https://ns-writings.blogspot.com/2021/1 ... dance.html

I can't stop seeing myself (and any true Bond fan) having this kind of interview with Barbara Broccoli


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ns_writings wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:23 pm Well done, Benny! I can't wait for your thoughts on the main titles and the "chocolate Bond" shattering in many pieces, as someone said.

By the way, I'm sure you (and everyone here) will like this: https://ns-writings.blogspot.com/2021/1 ... dance.html

I can't stop seeing myself (and any true Bond fan) having this kind of interview with Barbara Broccoli


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I enjoyed your article very much NS :cheers: ! I've been reading some of your other work as well, very impressive! I'm working on my dissection of the titles now and chocolate Easter bunny Craig will be discussed!
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By the way, found a Twitter account with lots of NTTD and Craig memes, if you need a laugh: https://twitter.com/SirGoldenEye
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ns_writings wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:39 pm By the way, found a Twitter account with lots of NTTD and Craig memes, if you need a laugh: https://twitter.com/SirGoldenEye
I noticed that account linked to my 3 latest articles! Probably explains why we've had an influx of positive messages and a few trolls rear their ugly heads.
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dirtybenny wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:26 am
ns_writings wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:39 pm By the way, found a Twitter account with lots of NTTD and Craig memes, if you need a laugh: https://twitter.com/SirGoldenEye
I noticed that account linked to my 3 latest articles! Probably explains why we've had an influx of positive messages and a few trolls rear their ugly heads.
That account generally retweets everything GoldenEye, they did with my books as well, too.
Loved the NTTD main titles article! When I saw the dots at the cinema I was like... WTF? Are they ripping Dr No off in such a blunt way? I even got to think Safin may have been Dr No, after all :Happy: :clap:

It's funny how in the old days tabloids knew s**t about an upcoming Bond film. NTTD looks like a film done to prove tabloid columnists right and have us real Bond fans as twats who know nothing about their beloved character - but then again, that seemed to be the whole idea behind the "Cregg" era.
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Craig + egg yields Cr-egg as the egghead Broccoli deemed to reinterpret her daddy's franchise. They HATE the literary Bond with a passion and these movie critics know squat about what TRUE Bond aficionados expect.
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ns_writings wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:39 pm By the way, found a Twitter account with lots of NTTD and Craig memes, if you need a laugh: https://twitter.com/SirGoldenEye
Some funny stuff there. One post I found particularly amusing was the "Pitch a movie with two pictures. No caption". There is an image of Craig's Bond looking up into the sky with an image next to it of Woody Allen's Jimmy Bond/Dr. Noah character from the 1967 Casino Royale, who's playing his golden harp while ascending to heaven just before he ends up going to hell shortly after.

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This would make a good concept for parody posters of No Time To Die, since it shares quite a few similarities with the 1967 Casino Royale.
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According to the movie's editor Tom Cross, Bond's death was the only ending that was ever planned for the movie, as he had the love story from On Her Majesty's Secret Service – where Bond's wife Tracy is killed off – in the back of his mind throughout.

"It was never in doubt and there were no alternatives," he told IndieWire.
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bjmdds wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:10 pm According to the movie's editor Tom Cross, Bond's death was the only ending that was ever planned for the movie, as he had the love story from On Her Majesty's Secret Service – where Bond's wife Tracy is killed off – in the back of his mind throughout.

"It was never in doubt and there were no alternatives," he told IndieWire.
Just read the full article. So, they planned to f*ck real Bond fans as early as Craig decided not to slash his wrists. :cuss:

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Tell the Drakester to return and we hope all is well with him. :!:
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Tired of all the promotional machinery of the Craig films dwelling with "James Bond is an assassin", people comparing Bond to Black Widow as "another assassin spy" or discerning individuals (sic) saying things like: "Bond is an angel of death, he's a murderer, so he's cursed and his ending will always be tragic as in the novels*", I wrote this article a while ago, arguing why Bond shouldn't be considered an assassin and why it's wrong to efface his many ethical codes, which the assassins he's frequently compared to clearly don't have: https://ultimateactionmovies.com/james- ... -assassin/


*Yes, someone said that in the forums that shall not be named. I won't bother to log back in, but I would like to remember that individual that James Bond didn't have "a tragic ending" in any of the novels. In The Man With The Red Tattoo by Raymond Benson (which would be considered the "last" before they went back to the past or tried a short-lived reboot in the post-centenary continuation), Bond ends up in bed with a Japanese girl. If you consider The Man With The Golden Gun as the "last" novel because it was the last Fleming wrote, our hero recovers in the hospital after a shootout with Scaramanga with Mary Goodnight starting a sort of "romance" with him. At the end, he concludes that he wouldn't stand monogamy so the romance with Goodnight wouldn't last because keeping the same girl would be like living in a room with the same view and "for James Bond, the same view would always pall".

So much for a tragic, cursed ending for this "assssasssssinnnnnn"! :hair:
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I wholeheartedly agree NS, Bond is no "assassin" he kills in the line of duty, but detests doing so, something the novels make very clear. If Bond is to be given a job description I'd say investigator.
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I suppose you could say that Bond had a tragic ending in the novel of FRWL, which was then handwaved away at the beginning of Dr No.

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Kristatos wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:12 pm I suppose you could say that Bond had a tragic ending in the novel of FRWL, which was then handwaved away at the beginning of Dr No.

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I think the FRWL ending was ambiguous at best. It's not as blunt as the NTTD ending, you don't know what James Bond was hit with and you don't know if he died or just fainted. It just tells you Bond gets hit with some kind of projectile and then that he falls to the floor. Mathis was by his side, Rosa Klebb is taken away. Anyone reading that gets a 50-50 chance that the character could survive.

That said, there was only a person in the world that could have killed James Bond. And that was Ian Fleming. If he didn't, then no-one following his work should and he was never meant to die.
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I think Fleming deliberately left it ambiguous in case he didn't want to do any more. But I suspect his publisher persuaded him.

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Is Crag's death left open at the of NTTD? For all we know he might get up with torn clothing like Benny Hill.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:30 pm Is Crag's death left open at the of NTTD? For all we know he might get up with torn clothing like Benny Hill.
Oh, it's pretty explicit Capt. But then again this is Babz we're talking about, I wouldn't put it passed her to pay Craig a billion dollars to return then pull some "creative writing" shenanigans!
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This whole Craig era bond is all about subversion. 5 movies and they didnt make a single proper classic gun barrel. ending of NTTD is clearly a subversion from OHMSS. When I read about rumors about NTTD i thought blofeld will kill madeline and we will have another revenge strory but final product is much worse.
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