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Re: Box office thread

Postby Kristatos » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:21 pm

Omega wrote:Will smith is not a draw, he was a big name that got movies made but he’s not a name that makes people go out to see a movie,

Maybe not now, but he used to be. He was pretty much the last of the old-style movie stars who could get people into cinemas just by having his name on the posters. Movies don't really work like that any more, though. People go to see the latest Marvel or Disney or Star Wars film, rather than the latest Will Smith (or whoever) film.
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Postby Omega » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:44 pm

Brands went from being actors to studios


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Re: Box office thread

Postby Kristatos » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:02 pm

It doesn't help that Gemini Man has been getting stinking reviews, with most of the venom being reserved for the 100fps process used to film it. Depending on which review you read, it makes it look like either a soap opera, a sitcom, or a 1980s kids TV show.
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Re: Box office thread

Postby Kristatos » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:40 pm

Weekend Box Office Estimates
1. Joker - $55 million
2. The Addams Family - $30.29 million
3. Gemini Man - $20.5 million
Get the full chart here: https://imdb.to/2MB6dRf

Only a 42.8% drop for Joker, which is quite rare these days. Gemini Man didn't even meet its mediocre projections.
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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:16 pm

That’s not bad at all. Justice league I think was 56%, most comic book movies are in that range. Wow, joker got better legs than I thought


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Postby Kristatos » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:30 pm

At the current rate, it should break $200 million domestically and $550 million worldwide in the next day or two.
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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:10 am

Interesting WB @ bomojo has $55 million as jokers cost.
Apparently it’s more like $70 million with $120 for p&r , $190 all in. About wonder woman and Aquaman range.
So once they cross $600 not counting China they are in profit , it’s @ $543 right now probably not going to be released in China ?



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Postby Kristatos » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:15 am

Omega wrote:Interesting WB @ bomojo has $55 million as jokers cost.
Apparently it’s more like $70 million with $120 for p&r , $190 all in. About wonder woman and Aquaman range.
So once they cross $600 not counting China they are in profit , it’s @ $543 right now probably not going to be released in China ?



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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:22 am

Except the don’t get half the gross


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Postby Omega » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:09 am

Sorry I was in a hurry. If total cost are $190-200 million then they broke even $400-500 million, so it’s a little better than I first said. I’m surprised WB is floating the $55 million figure when $70 is correct, I think they were prepared for the movie to flop and claim it was not a big loss. Unlike justice league .

But I think this model of business shows the way forward for Hollywood, smaller investments instead of whole hog bloated production over $200 million.

I hate to think how much the current bond movie costs, last few were over $400 million with P&A , when they are that big they have to make a billion to break even.


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Postby Kristatos » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:33 am

Omega wrote:I’m surprised WB is floating the $55 million figure when $70 is correct


Yes, it's more common for studios to inflate their budgets, in order to cheat those entitled to a share of the profits. Unless $55 million is the true figure and $70 million the official one.

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Re: Box office thread

Postby Kristatos » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:48 am

Just had a horrible thought about Joker's success. It's probably too late for NTTD, which is mostly in the can, but will it cause Babs to double down on the "washed-up alcoholic human dumpster fire" angle for Bond 26?

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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:08 am

According to actuals joker only had 41.9% drop for the second weekend.


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Re: Box office thread

Postby Kristatos » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:37 am

Joker could become the biggest non-Disney movie of the year, with only Sony's new Jumanji movie posing any challenge: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmende ... 8824dc3a26

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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:08 am

It also could best Deadpool for most profitable comic book movie . Not sure lightning will strike twice for Jumanji, it ended up being a perfect storm of disappointment in last Jedi and no competition because studios back off offering counter programming.

Disney has become the biggest name in Hollywood, unimaginable 20 years ago, they didn’t do it on their own they bought up properties proven to be capable of strong BO.
Before the current Disney era offering super hero movies of consistent quality was unthinkable, the dark knight trilogy was one of the first to start the trend, before this the audience would get two decent movies then the quality would fail on the third movie.
Part of the reason imho bond fans were eager to accept EON/Cubby were so essential for keeping 007 movies going. When Hollywood tried we get casino royal and never say never again.
Cubby had all kinds of Quality control issues but for the most part kept the movies a steady enjoyable experience. Unfortunately Babs and MGW we’re only capable of copying Cubby a few times before failing when babs went out on her own.

The golden era or serial tv and movies we have right now is kind of why I’m thinking the audience might be less willing to forgive babs hubris releasing one movie every five years about the most miserable man in the world




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Re: Box office thread

Postby Kristatos » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:17 pm

Joker just crossed $600 million worldwide. It should beat Justice League quite comfortably. I didn't realise that the highest-grossing DC film worldwide, unadjusted for inflation, is Aquaman. I didn't think it had done that well, let alone joined the billion-dollar club.

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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:03 am

It was another Christmas break film that families went to. Aquaman stayed in the top 3 all of January. It was the sleeper DC hit


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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:56 pm

Surprised maleficent took #1, well I guess I should say that it opened so weak to barely take #1

Joker continues to take in money

Last Weekend <Last Year View Index: By Year | By Weekend
TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week #
1 N Maleficent: Mistress of Evil BV $36,000,000 - 3,790 - $9,499 $36,000,000 - 1

2 1 Joker (2019) WB $29,205,000 -47.7% 4,090 -284 $7,141 $247,229,004 $55 3

3 N Zombieland 2: Double Tap Sony $26,725,000 - 3,468 - $7,706 $26,725,000 $42 1

4 2 The Addams Family (2019) UAR $16,057,007 -47.0% 4,102 +95 $3,914 $56,816,034 - 2

5 3 Gemini Man Par. $8,500,000 -58.6% 3,642 - $2,334 $36,516,543 $138 2

6 4 Abominable Uni. $3,500,000 -42.4% 2,647 -849 $1,322 $53,915,070 $75 4

7 5 Downton Abbey Focus $3,080,000 -36.9% 2,258 -761 $1,364 $88,612,460 - 5

8 7 Judy RAtt. $2,055,975 -36.4% 1,418 -209 $1,450 $19,018,113 - 4

9 6 Hustlers STX $2,050,000 -47.3% 1,575 -782 $1,302 $101,871,912 $20 6

10 8 It: Chapter Two WB (NL) $1,505,000 -52.0% 1,528 -775 $985 $209,659,518 - 7



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Re: Box office thread

Postby Omega » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:14 am

Interesting the leto guy who was joker in suicide squad, apparently tried to use his influence with Warner Bros. to keep the joker movie from being made. Thing was he didn’t have much influence the movie didn’t do well he was only in it for 10 minutes and apparently played all kinds of awful pranks on the cast and crew.



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