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Postby bjmdds » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:00 pm

Centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right populist Marine Le Pen advanced Sunday to a runoff in France's presidential election, remaking the country's political system and setting up a showdown over its participation in the European Union. The selection of Le Pen and Macron presented voters with the starkest possible choice between two diametrically opposed visions of the EU's future and France's place in it. It set up a battle between Macron's optimistic vision of a tolerant France with open borders against Le Pen's darker, inward-looking platform calling for closed borders, tougher security, less immigration and dropping the shared euro currency to return to the franc.
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Postby Omega » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:54 am

:lol: ok this is deja vu. Same idiots wrote the same way about trump vs Hillary. Trumps dark vision of America ha! These idiots by uniting against pen have probable given her the election .


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Postby bjmdds » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:25 am

I noticed the same EXACT quote big O :!: These people just don't get it :!: It was written by the liberal Associated Press writers JOHN LEICESER and LORI HINNANT. I emailed the AP from their website contact and blasted them for writing such wrong liberal garbage :!: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cen ... li=BBnb7Kz
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Postby bjmdds » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:11 pm

Police Injured, 143 Arrests as Far Left Riots in Paris to Protest Le Pen :!:
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Postby Omega » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:49 pm

So her daddy disqualifies her? Wish it worked the same way here for the bush family.

She may be a long shot and may have mishandled her campaign but the other "centrist" is actually a member of the current ruling party which is unpopular now so he made up his own party to avoid being tied with them.

I don't know if le pen has a chance or not but what strikes me is how identical the establishment attacks on her are to what they tried on Trump. In trumps case the establishment attacks helped him


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Postby carl stromberg » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:52 pm

Omega wrote:So her daddy disqualifies her? Wish it worked the same way here for the bush family.

She may be a long shot and may have mishandled her campaign but the other "centrist" is actually a member of the current ruling party which is unpopular now so he made up his own party to avoid being tied with them.

I don't know if le pen has a chance or not but what strikes me is how identical the establishment attacks on her are to what they tried on Trump. In trumps case the establishment attacks helped him


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She comes from the same party which was almost Nazi. in Europe there are many parties which were "fascist" with skinheads etc, but they have moderated over the years. But many people refuse to work with or vote for these parties because of their history. I think Marine Le Pan fell out with her father and has expelled him from the party because she is more moderate.

The lastest polls suggest 60% for Macron and 40% for Le Pen so she is getting more votes than her father.
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Postby Kristatos » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:41 pm

Her father was the first to try and move fascism away from its "skinheads and swastikas" image and towards the more respectable form represented by UKIP and the Trump administration (the so-called alt-right). I wonder if his daughter's repudiation of things like his holocaust denial are a genuine attempt to break with the past, or a continuation of his work in mainstreaming what was once unthinkable.
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Postby Omega » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:02 pm

I have no idea who her father is, or who the joker in the other one man party the establishment is rallying behind.
My gut reaction is screw the establishment




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Postby Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:04 am

I think Marine is a bit more moderate, whereas her father loves making extreme statements to wind people up.

Did anyone see that Macron's wife is about 25 years older than him, and they first met when she was his teacher at school. Typical of the French!!
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Postby bjmdds » Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:49 pm

France will kill itself in the long term with it's immigration policies :!:
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Postby Omega » Mon May 01, 2017 9:01 pm

Le pen polls are spiking, she may be able to win. But the establishment! Oh no! How ever will they get by?
It like when they tried to take trump out, jeb! Crash burns then endorses Rubio! Who is next to crash and burn. Continue the cycle until the election is over.


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Postby Kristatos » Mon May 01, 2017 9:35 pm

Well, it's a runoff election, so it's not really like that. Macron and Le Pen are the only two choices. And Le Pen may be gaining, but she is coming from about 20 points behind. It's not like in November when Trump was only 2 or 3 points behind Hillary.
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Postby Omega » Wed May 03, 2017 5:36 am

True. I honestly have no idea about pen. I'm looking at it as they (establishment including media) are treating her exactly as they treated trump and Brexit, so who knows if the polls mean anything.
While nothing like the trump primary it reminds my of the never trump mentality of picking seconds best/ lesser evil and endorsing them.


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Postby Kristatos » Wed May 03, 2017 2:45 pm

I'm not writing Le Pen off by any means, just pointing out that there are differences as well as similarities between the two elections.
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Postby Kristatos » Sun May 07, 2017 6:56 pm

Macron has won with some 65% of the vote. The polls did misjudge his share, but in the wrong direction, giving him less than he actually got. Funny, I thought these Russian hackers were so all-powerful that they could swing the election easily to the far-right candidate. _.//
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Postby Omega » Mon May 08, 2017 1:53 am

In the end I'm not surprised. But I had hoped for a better showing, then I don't actually know I'd want le pen to win.
The turn out enthusiasm and other data may be interesting .

Russian were sleeping on the job or what ! come on guys get it together!
Strange except for Colbert's bigoted rant I haven heard much about the Russians and trump.
Bunch of crap made up by a party in power to try to diminish their losses. The same folks who brought us Iran nuclear program and the Russian reset as Russia expands their territory back to ussr maps


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Postby Omega » Tue May 09, 2017 1:39 am

I don't doubt the Russians hack everybody I'm not sure they are behind every email leak. Most isn't hacking it phishing.
But nice to have the reds as a boogeyman again :roll:


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