President Trump

[Pluto007]

You’ve got war criminal and the most evil man on the planet Dick Cheney out for Kamala.

The war criminal’s daughter is also campaigning for her.

You got the most unpopular president and war criminal George W Bush pedalling one of his daughters for Kamala.

You have the mainstream media tut-tutting and wagging fingers at Trump because of a successful MSG rally, and all it takes to put their bullsh!t in perspective is an honest lefty:

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1851138132596408499

Yep, Jon Stewart nailed the idiots in media.

Last week he was telling the Dems: you can’t have Cheney as an ally. But… they didn’t listen. They have no honor. Do they even know what they stand for anymore???

Perhaps Stewart can help clean up this despicable, self righteous, lying, deceitful, hypocritical, party for war?

The Dems are so bad, no one is listening anymore. You’re not going to nab undecideds by calling them racist and misogynistic if they don’t want to vote for a dummy like Kamala. You won’t get their attention by calling 70-80 million Americans, fascists.

I’ve never seen a collapse like this.

I think this election is over unless they have a real October Surprise— one that is air-tight with actual evidence. If they don’t have something up their sleeve, then their duck is cooked.

And they know it too as the rumbles of the blame game are already starting to rear its ugly head.

[Kristatos]

I think Trump probably will win. The candidates are neck-and-neck in the polls, and Republicans have an inbuilt advantage in the Electoral College, which is weighted towards smaller, more rural states, which tend to vote Republican. But they seem to be treating victory as inevitable, which could backfire on them, by depressing turnout.

[Pluto007]

I think Trump probably will win. The candidates are neck-and-neck in the polls, and Republicans have an inbuilt advantage in the Electoral College, which is weighted towards smaller, more rural states, which tend to vote Republican. But they seem to be treating victory as inevitable, which could backfire on them, by depressing turnout.

I agree ; no one should take victory as a guarantee— especially not a week out. And if the Dems do have an October Surprise up their sleeves, they will drop it in the next 24-48 hours.

In sports we like to say: put your foot on their throat and don’t take it off until the last whistle.

The Republicans should take that to heart. If they don’t, it could be at their peril.

Anything can happen between now and Election Day….

[bjmdds]

And it did Pluto, but in reverse for the Democrats! Joey did it again with his foot shoved deep into his mouth this time? In a video call organized buy advocacy group Voto Latino, Biden said, "Donald Trump has no character. He doesn't give a d**n about the Latino community. Just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. The only garbage I see floating out there is his SUPPORTERS." Biden's comments blew up on social media, with many referring to this as Biden's "deplorables moment," a callback to 2016, when Democrat Hillary Clinton called Trump supporters "deplorables." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54hZP_rWiU

[Pluto007]

And it did Pluto, but in reverse for the Democrats! Joey did it again with his foot shoved deep into his mouth this time? In a video call organized buy advocacy group Voto Latino, Biden said, "Donald Trump has no character. He doesn't give a d**n about the Latino community. Just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. The only garbage I see floating out there is his SUPPORTERS." Biden's comments blew up on social media, with many referring to this as Biden's "deplorables moment," a callback to 2016, when Democrat Hillary Clinton called Trump supporters "deplorables." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54hZP_rWiU

Even in senility, Biden is nothing more than a wannabe thug.

Remember, this dickhead is the one who threatened any country to give Assange a home, with heavy penalties and trade sanctions (flagrantly waving in our faces that the reason why they wanted Assange silenced and imprisoned is because he had so much dirt on both parties. He had dirt on Obama ramping up the Cheney agenda and spying on his citizens (illegally), killing fellow Americans and innocent civilians alike because of his obsession with drone attacks….).

[Kristatos]

I mean, it's not a great comment, but he's only echoing a speaker at one of Trump's Nuremberg rallies. If calling Trump supporters garbage costs the Dems votes (though he was insulting people who weren't going to vote for them anyway), then calling Puerto Ricans garbage is likely to do the same for Republicans.

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[bjmdds]

The difference is Trump did not say it and Biden actually did. Constant reference to Nazi Germany only shows what a mindset you have is and will never change. YOU as I said, march in step to the left-wing narrative, a trait defined by a CULT. There might be mass suicides next week if Trump wins if this demented obsessive behavior which is irrational continues to fester in the minds of the left-wingers.........One of Puerto Rico's two "shadow senators" endorsed former President Trump as well now. Dale a Trump la fuerza de tu voto or 'Give Trump the force of your vote,' she said.

[Kristatos]

The difference is Trump did not say it and Biden actually did. Constant reference to Nazi Germany only shows what a mindset you have is and will never change. YOU as I said, march in step to the left-wing narrative, a trait defined by a CULT. There might be mass suicides next week if Trump wins if this demented obsessive behavior which is irrational continues to fester in the minds of the left-wingers.........One of Puerto Rico's two "shadow senators" endorsed former President Trump as well now. Dale a Trump la fuerza de tu voto or 'Give Trump the force of your vote,' she said.

It's kind of funny being called irrational by someone whose sole register is constant, screeching outrage; not just about politics, but about everything

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[bjmdds]

Safe and secure elections with machines? https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1852029 ... s-later%2F

[Pluto007]

This is the type of poison that only creates division, and yes, violence, and;

It’s being pedalled and hustled by the left/corporate/legacy media:

They claim that Trump called for Liz Cheney’s murder in front of a firing squad.

A fabrication of the highest order.

But honest leftists, such as Bill Maher (and others), who has made clear his own passionate dislike of Trump, have come to his defense:

“During the “Overtime” segment of Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher said that media outlets that accused 2024 Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump called for the execution of former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) were lying and what Trump said “is exactly what hippies always said.” And “the spirit of it is something that if someone with a blue hat said it, people would nod along on the left.” And Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) agreed that Trump’s words were distorted.”

I’m so sick that the left claim they’re concerned about democracy (they’re the party that has tried to lock up their political opponent (yet Trump, when in power, never locked away the lying war criminal Hillary Clinton, nor any other of his many opponents); they also are the party that led a coup against their *elected* nominee, plopping their own candidate in place, and they’re the party knowing their leader has been sick this entire time, and unelected “officials” have been and are, running the country); they claim they’re fearful of violence (yet lie about Trump wanting to put Cheney in front of a firing squad, and; the only presidential nominee to get attacked, TWICE, by a would-be assassin, has been Trump).

The Dims/Dems are sick. They fantasize about this dark regime, when the only proven fascist regime is the one they’re supporting (the one that controls the media to hustle their lies and propaganda, the one that pulled a coup on their elected official, the fascist regime that runs the country without an elected leader. The Dems are the fascist regime that partners with war criminal Cheney and; they have been fighting a war by proxy in both Ukraine and the Middle East.

It’s just nauseating how so many turn away from the crimes of this regime and project everything onto the other guys. It’s clear as day…

[bjmdds]

You state it perfectly and with PROOF of the Democrat's own actions Pluto! Others on this website live in a fantasy world created by the lying media and they instill these lies into their thoughts and believe it. This Cheney lie the media is propagating is 100% proof they are corrupt!

[Kristatos]

"The left" did not try to get Trump locked up, unless you class the entire criminal justice system as "the left". He's a felon who was tried and convicted by a jury of his peers. But because Republicans rely so much on grievance politics, they can paint a criminal getting caught as evidence of persecution (when it's one of theirs, that is). And both of his would-be assassins were registered Republicans.

[Kristatos]

Safe and secure elections with machines? https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1852029 ... s-later%2F

That machine has now been pulled from service, though I'm sure if Trump loses, it will be used as justification to try and overturn the results of the election. Again.

[Pluto007]

"The left" did not try to get Trump locked up, unless you class the entire criminal justice system as "the left". He's a felon who was tried and convicted by a jury of his peers. But because Republicans rely so much on grievance politics, they can paint a criminal getting caught as evidence of persecution (when it's one of theirs, that is). And both of his would-be assassins were registered Republicans.

The Stormy Daniel’s case/hush money joke of a trial was a show trial where she herself lied on the stand and it should have been tossed out. But a politically motivated prosecutor in a blue state that hates Trump?…. And if having sex and paying off mistresses were illegal, every president would have got the book thrown at him. Do you honestly take any of this seriously?

And, Monica Lewinsky was groomed and destroyed by the Clintons. Just saying.

Falsifying businesses (over inflating real estate— really?!! Like every house and condo and building sold??). Most of the honest Left will also admit these cases were a bloody joke.

Lefties like Bill Maher also questioned why prosecutors took four years to bring Trump in court. We all know why: the closer to election time, the worse they can make him look. Show trials, and theatrics.

[Pluto007]

And quite frankly, on the subject of trials and jail, the Cheney-Bush-Clintons-Graham-OConnell-Biden-Obama thugs have never answered for dragging us into twenty year wars via lying to the public (about fabled WMD, remember those), and;
Obama, that blood-thirsty PoS, has never stood trial for the murders of Americans that were assassinated during his famed drone attacks. He killed hundreds of his own men. Collateral damage? In illegal wars? Nope, he’s a straight up serial killer.

But yeah, let’s get Trump for inflating real estate value and having sex, and paying off a porno star.

One ain’t like the other.

But let’s keep turning eyes away from the murderous regimes of the very recent past, and get the orange man because he’s a “dictator” (once again, he left the White House for a peaceful transition of power; he didn’t fire a shot to start a new war (which obviously pissed off the industrial war complex), he didn’t lock away his political opponents; the Dems are the party of War, they have welcomed evil Cheney and his spawn into their party (that should give any Democrat pause, big time), they wiped out their elected official as presidential candidate, placing their chosen stooge to replace him, and they’ve been running the country for the last four years with unelected deep state figures pulling the strings. And yes, the deep state was working with politically motivated prosecutors in blue states to bring down their political opponent).

And Kristatos: the two assassins were part of the Rethuglicans military party of yesteryear. They know Trump wants to stop the wars in Ukraine and in Gaza, so they picked other party, the Dems, and tried to take Trump out.

And the first assassin was a kid with no socials? Really? His home and computers had been scrubbed and we know nothing about him. Anyone with half a brain can see this “conspiracy” from a mile away. There’s no way a 17 year old had no digital fingerprints. And how was his home scrubbed of anything? The Deep State is very real, and it’s very evil…

[Kristatos]

And quite frankly, on the subject of trials and jail, the Cheney-Bush-Clintons-Graham-OConnell-Biden-Obama thugs have never answered for dragging us into twenty year wars via lying to the public (about fabled WMD, remember those), and;
Obama, that blood-thirsty PoS, has never stood trial for the murders of Americans that were assassinated during his famed drone attacks. He killed hundreds of his own men. Collateral damage? In illegal wars? Nope, he’s a straight up serial killer.

Oh, I would happily see Obama, Bush Jr and Clinton stand trial for war crimes. The one thing I will give Trump credit for is not starting any new wars during his time in office, though he probably inflamed tensions in the Middle East with his symbolic move of the American Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Ironically, this issue may help him indirectly. I saw a poll this morning showing the most popular candidate with Muslim Americans is Jill Stein.This could pull enough votes from Harris in states like Michigan, with a substantial Muslim population, to help tip the scale for Trump.

[Pluto007]

And quite frankly, on the subject of trials and jail, the Cheney-Bush-Clintons-Graham-OConnell-Biden-Obama thugs have never answered for dragging us into twenty year wars via lying to the public (about fabled WMD, remember those), and;
Obama, that blood-thirsty PoS, has never stood trial for the murders of Americans that were assassinated during his famed drone attacks. He killed hundreds of his own men. Collateral damage? In illegal wars? Nope, he’s a straight up serial killer.

Oh, I would happily see Obama, Bush Jr and Clinton stand trial for war crimes. The one thing I will give Trump credit for is not starting any new wars during his time in office, though he probably inflamed tensions in the Middle East with his symbolic move of the American Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Ironically, this issue may help him indirectly. I saw a poll this morning showing the most popular candidate with Muslim Americans is Jill Stein.This could pull enough votes from Harris in states like Michigan, with a substantial Muslim population, to help tip the scale for Trump.

I appreciate and I’m very grateful when any kind of middle ground can be found.

I don’t really care if one agrees with me, or I agree with them. But a little respectful discussion, and by and large this has been, and some understanding of both sides can at least be established, and sometimes agreements too.

It’s something I wish the people in power could actually do, instead of the theatrics and hyperbole. As I’ve called it before: it’s the theatre of evil. Both sides disgust me. Just one makes me sick, a hair’s width more than the other.

But there’s a reason why the surrounding real estate around Washington DC is some of the most rich and valuable properties in the entire country. And that’s where all the goddamned lobbyists live. And they certainly don’t care who’s in power. They play both sides, because both sides are slobbering for more power and more wealth.

So, thanks to both you and bjmdds for chatting (obviously bjmdds and I may be a little more closely in agreement, but Krista’s, you were never rude or dismissive of my opinions, and I hope you see I respected your positions).

Thanks very much.

I am flip flopping on who will win, but I hope no matter who wins, we can all just get on with it.

[Kristatos]

Honestly, I think the Germans have the right idea. They have publicly funded elections, and the only other legal source of funding for political parties is membership subscriptions.

Edited to add: and yes, it's been nice having a reasoned discussion with you. The reason I get frustrated with BJ sometimes is that he tends to uncritically accept whatever he hears on Fox News, Breitbart and the rest of that whole MAGA media ecosystem. I get just as frustrated with people who merely regurgitate liberal talking points unthinkingly.

[bjmdds]

Once again wrong Kris. I NEVER look at Breitbart and I observe ALL of the media in DISGUST. I live in NYC where I see ABC, CBS, and NBC on a daily basis. You recite the left-wing talking points in unison with what they throw out to the public. Your favorite word is FASCIST and that is NOT what Trump is and never will be but it IS what the Democrat party has become. They all spin things their way but the left-wingers are beyond disgraceful with the lies they shovel IN UNISON. This election is based on POLICY with Trump supporters. That is the reason people will hopefully elect him in 2 days, even though he is a loudmouth narcissist. Would you want to be operated on by a nasty but great surgeon or one that has been sued many times but is a nice person? SNL is in hot water now and is in violation of the election laws by not giving Trump EQUAL air time as they gave Ka-Ma-La last night. The FCC commissioner wants punishment on them and Lorne Michaels said neither candidate would be on SNL this season but he lied and now must suffer whatever the penalty will be, but in typical left-wing hack mode neither he nor NBC could not care less! I am still waiting to hear what the REAL reason I hate the Oh-bama is in your mind.

[Kristatos]

Once again wrong Kris. I NEVER look at Breitbart and I observe ALL of the media in DISGUST. I live in NYC where I see ABC, CBS, and NBC on a daily basis. You recite the left-wing talking points in unison with what they throw out to the public.

My apologies, I thought that you regularly post links to Breitbart. But a forum search shows that you have only ever done so twice in the entire history of this forum (probably stories that had been linked to from elsewhere).

Your favorite word is FASCIST and that is NOT what Trump is and never will be but it IS what the Democrat party has become.

I have explained in detail exactly why I think Trump is a fascist. It's not a word I throw around lightly to describe anything vaguely authoritarian. Fascism is notoriously difficult to define, being more of a vibe than a coherent ideology, but dictionary definitions are usually along the lines of; "A nationalist form of right-wing populism centred on an autocratic leader and a myth of national renewal". Which part of that description do you think does not apply to Trump?

I am still waiting to hear what the REAL reason I hate the Oh-bama is in your mind.

There are times when it's best to keep your mouth shut, and this is one of them.