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Spot on. Daniel Craig's hair were the least of my objections, the direction the franchise took with him in the lead is. Some of this is EON, some of it is Daniel because of his tastes and limitations as an actor.
It is fine if somebody likes the NuBond, I have plenty of mates who seem to disregard who James Bond is supposed to be. Some like the Sweeney with Casino Royale were eager for the full Bourne treatment and they got it in full force with Quantum of Something only to find it was not to their liking after all. The pure emotional drivel introduced with greater emphasis starting with Skyfall and continuing with Spectre completely get the character James Bond wrong. I truly think the series is off the rails or nearly. I am not sure the character of James Bond as originally envisioned will make a comeback with the next actor, too much has cheapened what Bond once meant.

"Problem is not the Craig is not Bond, it is that Barbara is not Cubby." great quote wish I knew who said it first. I would only add to this that Daniel is Barbara's Bond and nobody else's, not Ian's and not Cubby's. Ian who might not be chuffed with all the alterations over 40 years still he helped create the Bond which became a legend, Cubby with all his faults, with nepotism being a prime example, kept the brand of 007 unique and made sure the 007 movies were something to experience even if the story could be a little lacking at times.
Barbara's Bond is lifted bits of better movies her father made and better modern movies popular a few years ago. It feels like everything in her era was done better by somebody else.
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Blowfeld wrote:"Problem is not the Craig is not Bond, it is that Barbara is not Cubby." great quote wish I knew who said it first.

Thanks Blofeld, I'm going to borrow this quote it sums things up perfectly!
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dirtybenny wrote:
Blowfeld wrote:"Problem is not the Craig is not Bond, it is that Barbara is not Cubby." great quote wish I knew who said it first.

Thanks Blofeld, I'm going to borrow this quote it sums things up perfectly!
It is very apropos. I believe it was from the Alt007, there was daily combat early days the site anybody who dare not bend a knee for their New 007 was a traitorous heretic who righteous fans should exterminate. Did not help some of the, let say contributors, to CNB were a little crackers. I don't want to offend those who think well of them so I will leave it be. I happen to believe petitions and boycotts are not truly effective, demanding the previous actor be given the job was not going to happen because a few of his fans demanded it. If a few factors had been different for instance Sony not being involved, the result might have been different. Without the professionally constructed media narrative and patented social media guerilla tactics the fight would have taken place on a level playing field instead people involved were personally threatened if they didn't fall in line. All of which Sony excelled at, did not hurt the entertainment press was eager to suck up. EON & Sony got to write the narrative that spiteful mean people were picking on a billion dollar franchise and poor dimwitted actor smacked by every branch of the ugly tree, nobody ever took the time to examine if there was any validity to the complaints or the dubious claim EON made to be retuning to Ian Fleming's 007. Schadenfreude to see what has happened to the once mighty Sony. :twisted:

Which is why I think I enjoy the rants so much. Appropriate to have your rants on the front page to mark the 10th anniversary of CNB, I feel they embody the sprit of the founders who fought with words and satire, not so much with the jousting at windmills.

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Thank you for the kind words my friend, always glad to know my efforts are enjoyed! :cheers:

I am under no delusion that anything I say here or on the front page will have any effect on the direction of Bond, nor would I want it to. Imagine if every crackpot with a keyboard chimed it with their "brilliant ideas" to make the series better, what a mess that would be. Would it be any worse than what we have now? That's debatable. Also I'm no communist, for better or worse EON owns the rights to Bond and therefore have the right to do with him whatever they want, even if that includes urinating upon the legacy of the character. But we also have the right to voice our displeasure with that direction with our hard earned cash, or in this case with our satirical jabs, those who wish us to shut us up because we aren't "real Bond fans" miss the point entirely, freedom runs both ways!
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I was never happy about the "campaigning" aspect of the site either, particularly in the very early days when Happy Feet was used as a weapon against Casino Royale, as if the two films had anything to do with each other beyond being released at roughly the same time.
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dirtybenny wrote:Thank you for the kind words my friend, always glad to know my efforts are enjoyed! :cheers:

I am under no delusion that anything I say here or on the front page will have any effect on the direction of Bond, nor would I want it to. Imagine if every crackpot with a keyboard chimed it with their "brilliant ideas" to make the series better, what a mess that would be. Would it be any worse than what we have now? That's debatable. Also I'm no communist, for better or worse EON owns the rights to Bond and therefore have the right to do with him whatever they want, even if that includes urinating upon the legacy of the character. But we also have the right to voice our displeasure with that direction with our hard earned cash, or in this case with our satirical jabs, those who wish us to shut us up because we aren't "real Bond fans" miss the point entirely, freedom runs both ways!
Well I do know EON pays some attention to what we are doing, to a certain extent we live rent free in Barbara's head while other sycophantic fansites are all but ignored. What bothered me about CNB was a few people got involved to promote Pierce's career. While I did think Pierce was a good choice for 007 I was not married to idea so exclusivity I would not have welcomed a new actor.

Kristatos wrote:I was never happy about the "campaigning" aspect of the site either, particularly in the very early days when Happy Feet was used as a weapon against Casino Royale, as if the two films had anything to do with each other beyond being released at roughly the same time.
Strangely that gambit worked well enough for it purposes, it was the only time Craig to not have a number one opening weekend. However I still cringe when I see a Happy Feet DVD. While that might have been fine as a one time trick what did not work was trying to repeat it by endorsing other movies in the market the same time as whatever Craig Bond was out. Simply because no movies out in today's market is in direct competition with any other movie, there is no fighting fire with fire in this environment. To me it smacks of bitterness. There are plenty of legitimate argument to make against the Craig era, every new movie provides ammunition.
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To this day I have no idea how Quantum Of Boring made so much money. Even without Craig in it, it has to be the most boring and dull film in the series. Then Skyfail only succeed at the BO because it was the 50th anniversary and the 2012 Olympic games helped. England was a big news point in 2012 and the Bond people took full advantage. OTT promotion. The huge drop in BO for Spectre only proves that Bond is on the decline. Way too long with a storyline a five year old could do better with.
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Cr-egg might be doing the 60th anniversary film in 2022 at this rate :!: :cuss: Come to think of it, they might want Cr-egg to do another film in 2019 and then start anew with the 7th 007 in 2022 to celebrate the 60th, so don't expect more than 1 film between now and 2022.
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Rant: 40 Rotten Craigs

Despite whatever your feeling for Daniel Craig may be, unless you are one of his’s most rabid fans, you have to feel he’s gone past his expiration date. It would be absolutely foolish for EON to bring him back now. Here are a few reasons why.

James Bond, he’s just not that in to you. Craig said himself in the infamous “Slash my wrists” interview that if we saw him in the role again it would strictly be just for the money. You can argue the slash my wrists bit was hyperbole, but when the man goes on to spell it all out as he did, that money and only money would bring him back in to the fold. That my friends is not just some offhand remark, that is the truth, maybe a Freudian slip which he now regrets, but the truth none the less!

This runs in to the next point, cost, cost and more cost. He’s going to be way too expensive. Craig wanted the earth to appear in the last film and he was still contractually obligated! Now that he truly can walk away and as he’s stated just looking for a payday, he’ll want even more! Craig said straight out his hearts not in it and he wants a mint to return. Which means EON will be paying Matt Damon prices for a Matt LeBlanc performance. Whether or not you believe Craig has lived up to his hype till now he’ll certainly be phoning it in next time out, is that what you really want to see?

And finally: He’s just plain wore out his welcome. His dour, angry take on Bond has worn thin and it shows, a periphery scan on most message boards and you’ll see the prevailing sentiment is a wave of excitement over his replacement. I actually find it surprising EON hasn’t noticed and tapped in to that, the iron is hot why not strike? Why not fan those flames and really make those embers white hot? Bringing Craig back would be a disappointing and anticlimactic decision.

To reiterate, bringing back Craig would be foolish, a mistake fanatically, artistically and a disappointment to the fans.
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:cheers: Personally, I couldn't agree more dirtybenny. The trouble is, I'm not sure EON, the media shill reviewers or the casual viewers will necessarily see it like that. In particular, I don't think the high cost of bringing back a less-than-willing actor has ever bothered EON. As I understand it they offered Connery and Moore some pretty sizable sums to keep coming back although in their case you could argue they were really onto a good thing.
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Good points Acid, I would point out that it was the studio (United Artists) that handed Connery that payday because they felt Bond wouldn't survive without him and because he's well... Connery. Moore got a few paydays but nothing to the extent of Craig on SP and surely what he'll demand on Bond 25.


Also to anyone interested, I seem to have collected an admirer (stalker) over on DanielCraigIsNotBond.com (the most recent article). Good for a laugh, check it out!
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I fired off a response to this troll, not sure why I bothered.
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Kristatos wrote:I fired off a response to this troll, not sure why I bothered.
I know what you mean Kris, I guess we have a bit of a sado masochistic streak. Good points made by the way.
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Omega wrote:I forget about the front page since I'm always on tapatalk


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"James Bond,he's just not that into you." Said no one ever until now. It feels weird to even read the line. It's weird but completely true when it comes to Craig. He never was that into Bond and you could tell he thought it's all beneath him from the start. His posture practically screamed "What the heck am I even doing here I should be doing Macbeth!"
Why anyone would want Craig back is completely beyond me.
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Great rant as always!
Craig was never in to the roll, CR was probably his best performance but he was too generic action hero to be Bond but I guess after 40 year of the same recipe some fans thought Bond put together like a bland McDonald's menu was exciting and bond was finally being taken seriously even though it wasn't.
QS was a disaster and he clearly was phoning it in SF&SP , or maybe that was the best he is capable of and we are giving him too much credit for being board.


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Thanks V and Big O, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

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Yeah, me too, until Dirty Benny reminded me.
You know the funny thing with so much going on at home so did I, that is until I got the email alerting me to my new buddy's post! LOL! I suppose I should thank him!
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Kristatos wrote:I fired off a response to this troll, not sure why I bothered.
Great post Kris. He replied again yesterday.
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You made a pretty good post yourself there Acid, I'm sure his only defence will be another unhinged expletive laced diatribe referring to the actor/director's "acclaim" whatever that has to do with anything!
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