Dirty Benny's Weekly Rant

[Veronica]

Castin Monica is...revolutionary? The first time Bond is with a mature woman? I didn't see any Bond girl that was 17 EVER.
This is hilarious. They are so caught up in their "revolutionary" world that one day they'll just come and say that Bond ordering a vodka martini shaken not stirred is revolutionary.
Skyfall "best British film of all time"? The next statement will claim Miley Cyrus is the best singer of all time.

[shaken not stirred]

..So blofelt will have a sensitive side....even more to suggest this is bloody austin powers 3 and a henchmen with a heart (looks at mini me)....why has bond become nothing more than a soap and complete rubbish, what next the woman he beds is really his sister (waht a twist), bond was loved more by his father than dad (again austin powers 3) for saying austin powers ruined bond and that's why they changed they sure as hell seem to be following them (quick bond is surfing on an iceburg and uses an invisible car (which through top gear has been shown it's possible as they proved (not the iceburg surfing bit)...quick reboot it, cr pops up, oh no bond chases someone through a construction site and hulk smashes through a wall...don't reboot (bangs head against wall).

[Blowfeld]

About what Daniel says about Bond it all can be traced to his attitude, belief maybe, that James Bond is the man we love to hate. He said this in early Casino press junkets. Where the hell did he ever get the idea 007 was a man audiences loved to hate?

I believe Barbara thinks this was and apparently so does Daniel. I think it is not uncommon to the elitist cultural snobs who never got why Bond worked for the audiences in the first place.

[shaken not stirred]

About what Daniel says about Bond it all can be traced to his attitude, belief maybe, that James Bond is the man we love to hate. He said this in early Casino press junkets. Where the hell did he ever get the idea 007 was a man audiences loved to hate?

I believe Barbara thinks this was and apparently so does Daniel. I think it is not uncommon to the elitist cultural snobs who never got why Bond worked for the audiences in the first place.

What in god's name are some people smoking, if the world hated bond (ie the audience) he wouldn't have been around as long as he is now, now most of the characters Billy Bob Thornton plays (especially fargo) them we're meant to hate, granted craigs bond esp skyfall has really made Me hate the character (oh look an innocent couple,an assasin next to them..could save them but...I enjoy that other assasins work such a great shot...oh no he's getting away better go after him now.

Old bond (cinema bond Since Connery) I never hated (up to Brosnan) but now the character just makes Me uncomfortable along with embarrised by how far he's fallen.

[Veronica]

James Bond a man we love to hate? Ummm...what?
I thought the antagonists were characters we love to hate.
James Bond is a man we love to love and admire even.
We love the Bondness. The thing is that Craig and Barbara do not. The love to hate it.

[FormerBondFan]

James Bond a man we love to hate? Ummm...what?

That's what James Bond is today since 2006.

[dirtybenny]

About what Daniel says about Bond it all can be traced to his attitude, belief maybe, that James Bond is the man we love to hate. He said this in early Casino press junkets. Where the hell did he ever get the idea 007 was a man audiences loved to hate?

I believe Barbara thinks this was and apparently so does Daniel. I think it is not uncommon to the elitist cultural snobs who never got why Bond worked for the audiences in the first place.

What Danny should have said was "James Bond is the man Babzy and I love to hate"!

I could and at some point will to an entire rant dedicated to the "love"/ absolute disgust relationship she has with the Bond character.

[dirtybenny]

P.P.S: More Craig Eggs
Another interview of our favorite Bond!


Director Martin McDonagh interviewed Daniel Craig for the current issue of Dujour magazine.

How involved do you get in the scripts?

As much as I possibly can without treading on toes, although you have to offend some people sometimes to move on.(Oh so you’re a writer now?) I wanted desperately for Sam Mendes to do this movie, but at the time he had other commitments. I said he’s got to do it.(And I threw myself on the floor in a massive temper tantrum, pounding my fists on the floor and bawling wildly until I got my way!) We started something with him on the last movie, the beginning of a relationship with a director I haven’t had in a long time.(Yes! And look what we got from that, a chaotic mess, where the bad guy wins at the end!) Then there was that added pressure because the last movie was huge and everyone’s asking, “What are you going to do now?”(Ooh ooh, I know, make an even more pretentious, ridiculous, melodrama full of cheap pop psych metaphors!) We’ve got to make a better movie, that’s what we’re going to do! (Better how? More Home Alone references?)

Does that involve making it a bigger money-making movie?

Not for me. The idea that we’re going to make a lot of money from these, even now, is a strange one. That’s not how I started out. If they got into a cinema, “Yay! Success!”(OK, so financial success isn’t an indicator of how good a film is. Well you heard it Craigskys, straight from the man himself, so shut up about how much money SF made!)

And you probably can’t put your finger on why the last one made so much more than the previous ones.

Hollywood would disagree, wouldn’t they? They’d say going big is how you make lots of money, but I think, How many times have you watched that fail? (Not many)

When you start a Bond movie, do you know where you’re going to on day one: Thailand, Morocco, wherever?

Not definitely, no.(Of course not! What a daft question! Why on earth would you want to start filming a movie with a finished script, a complete cast, and a list of locations?!) On this one Mexico City opened up and offered to let us film there. (Yes it did!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

What’s Mexico City like?

It ended up being one of my favorite cities I’ve ever been to,( Wow great! What did you enjoy so much about it, the culture, historical locations, restaurants, the warm friendly people?) but you can get into an awful lot of trouble there.(Oh yeah, I forgot who we’re dealing with!)

Tequila?

Anything you f**king want!(I think you’ve confused Mexico City with the EON production offices)

[Veronica]

What they did was probably giving Mendes a huge check so they can convice him to do another "deep","character driven" Bond movie because old Bond movies are now beneath them even though because of those movies she had golden spoon in her mouth ever since she was a toddler.Disgraceful. To basically say the whole franchise her father worked for needs to be forgotten in favor of "deep","character driven" films that will appearently discover more about Bond. And on top of that-appearantly that's Fleming. What books did they exactly read?
Urgh...this all just makes me sick.

[carl stromberg]

I have just worked out why people on the forum say Cr-egg, Craig-Egg etc. In Britain we pronounce the a Craig as is brain, but I looked on wikipedia and it says in the US they pronounce Craig like egg:

The given name Craig is popular in Scotland, and is used throughout the English speaking world,[1] though in North America it is often pronounced with a short vowel sound, as in "egg," while the British pronunciation sounds like the diphthong in "brain."

So now I know! i thought you Americans thought Daniel Craig looked like an egg.

[bjmdds]

He is an EGGhead Carl and for 8 years I have named him that here CRAIG in the USA is pronounced CREGG. Craig + egg= Cr-egg......it's basic anti-EON trigonometty

[Omega]

I have just worked out why people on the forum say Cr-egg, Craig-Egg etc. In Britain we pronounce the a Craig as is brain, but I looked on wikipedia and it says in the US they pronounce Craig like egg:

The given name Craig is popular in Scotland, and is used throughout the English speaking world,[1] though in North America it is often pronounced with a short vowel sound, as in "egg," while the British pronunciation sounds like the diphthong in "brain."

So now I know! i thought you Americans thought Daniel Craig looked like an egg.

how the hell do you say it there? I've only heard it as egg


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[Daltonite Toothpaste]

I pronounce it as Kray (as in Ronnie and Reggie) with a soft 'g' as the end. That is how it's pronounced in the UK.

[Omega]

So its sounds like Kray? Kray-g?

Okay I've never heard anybody say it like this. Is there a UK YouTube video someplace so I can hear it pronounced.? The U.S. Entertainment reporters all say it "egg"

Here is how it sounds

http://southpark.cc.com/clips/189990/my ... aig-tucker




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[dirtybenny]

Rant 32: Black Bond

(This is a long one and quite frankly it makes me a little nervous as it deals with race which is obviously a touchy subject and thanks to the current environment where everything is “racist” to the point that the word doesn’t mean anything anymore, like how we’ve over used Nazi out of definition to where every politician regardless of affiliation is the reincarnation of Hitler. I’m afraid my point may be lost on some readers due to their inclination to shut their ears and see only hate where none exists)

Behold he is coming! Yes, Black Bond is on his way! How do I know? I don’t have any inside information but as the new theme song goes the “Writing’s on the wall”.

I’m going to state first off I am not philosophically against a black actor playing Bond, I do have some misgivings which I will share toward the end, but as an academic exercise I’m not opposed, I mean we currently have a pale, pasty gnome in the role so an attractive, suave, classy black man would be a step or twelve way, way up.

So seriously what makes me so sure? Well number one Hollywood demands it, and whatever those great scholars of progressive thought say we must obey. Especially where EON is concerned, as they are so starved for the praise and accolades of the Tinseltown elite. Also witness how everyone who dares to pause a moment before jumping on the bandwagon is labeled racist and made a pariah. I’m having a hard time deciding if this is part of a “conspiracy” or just speaks to a larger problem with reading comprehension. While I’m sure the later plays a large role I’m starting to suspect the former. Let me put on my tinfoil conspiracy theory hat and explain.

Take for example how the beloved Roger Moore was despicably treated when his words were blatantly taken out of context in a foreign language interview, when he said Bond should be English in reference to his nationality and this was twisted to mean race. Fortunately Roger didn’t endure pariahship too long, but just long enough to show there are no sacred cows, “If we can do this to someone like Moore, who obviously doesn’t have a racist bone in his body, think what we’ll do to you!”

Anthony Horowitz author of the latest Bond novel was lambasted when he dared to share his thoughts that Idris Elba wasn’t the best choice to play Bond, and suggested a different black actor whom he thought would be better. For clarity I have no opinion for or against Horowitz, in fact I had never heard of him before this as I don’t follow the continuation novels, so I have no vested interest in “defending” him.

Let’s start with Horwitz’s comment culled from MI6-HQ.com as they were the only source to display it almost intact:

"Idris Elba is a terrific actor, but I can think of other black actors who would do it better."
He named Adrian Lester, star of Hustle.
"For me, Idris Elba is a bit too rough to play the part. It’s not a colour issue. I think he is probably a bit too “street” for Bond. Is it a question of being suave? Yeah."

Well upon hearing that the internet exploded! Entire articles were devoted to this vile, racist diatribe foisted upon an unsuspecting public. Of course they didn’t lead with what Horowitz led with, that he wasn’t opposed to a black actor and had one in mind, it was “Author Horowitz Thinks Elba Too Black”, then buried the other text towards the bottom of the page. They also led readers to believe Horowitz has some say in casting with statements such as “Despite rumors to the contrary, Idris Elba will not be the next James Bond, according to Anthony Horowitz, author of Trigger Mortis”. Not to mention the copious amounts of time devoted to twisting the word “street” to fit the “racist” narrative while also showing pictures of scruffy Elba posed in fashion shots to rebuff Horowitz’s statement. (Which in my opinion only strengthened Horowitz’s point, unfortunately thanks to Craig’s scruffy performance people seem to think that constitutes Bond now.)

Look, I love Elba as an actor, I also love Clint Eastwood, for many of the same reasons, they both embody a tough gritty take charge persona absolutely perfect for the rough around the edges burnt-out cop characters they are famous for playing. Unfortunately that is not what’s required to play Bond, quite the opposite in fact. If you had asked me if Eastwood would have made a good Bond 40-50 years ago when he was in his prime I would give a definitive no, for all the same reasons Elba doesn’t fit the mold now.

OK, but why, you ask, is this conspiracy rather than a severe case of poor reading comprehension, or a defense of Elba? Let’s have a pop quiz.
After reading Horowitz’s statement above which of the following are true?

Horowitz would prefer Bond to be:
A. White
B. Adrian Lester
C. Not Idris Elba
D. Both B and C

The answer is of course D but I would have also accepted B or C, however far too many people are choosing A.

Now let me adjust my foil helmet and delve deeper down the conspiracy hole.
Horowitz’s most oft quoted detractor is author Ta-Nehisi Coates. I’ve never heard of this individual let alone read their work, so I can’t attest to the quality of it. For all I know it could be a collection of the insane ramblings of a lunatic scrawled in crayon, because the special “home” they live in doesn’t allow sharp objects, or it may be the modern equivalent of War and Peace. My point is if the later, someone who makes their living in the written word should know better.

Here is what Coates said:

"Just be honest and say 'James Bond's being white is important to me' and be done with it."

Is that what Horowitz said, cuz I didn’t get there. The thing is all of the articles and all of the “tweets” quoted all followed the same narrative, which considering it’s so off base leads me to wonder if something else bigger is afoot.

I want to take a moment and return to Coates’ quote. Let’s pretend that was in fact what Horowitz meant. Does that make him a racist? Is he a card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan or a Neo-Nazi because of it? Some of my favorite screen characters such as Shaft, Axle Foley and Blade being black are important to me. Am I a Black Panther now because of that? People on the Coates side of the argument ask what’s so wrong with fictional characters changing races to black, fair enough, but I reply what’s wrong with wanting a fictional character to be white.

Why are people shaming someone for having an opinion different than theirs? Unless perhaps we are trying to control the discussion?

On the other side of this dysfunctional coin Yaphet “Dr. Kananga” Kotto came right out and said under no uncertain circumstances that Bond should not be played by a black man. Yet I saw no words of protest, no “twitter” campaign, no reams of articles detracting these “vile” comments. What was so different about Kotto than Horowitz? I hesitate to say race, but it’s hard to call a black man racist.

OK excuse me while I remove my hat and change gears back to the beginning where I stated above, I don’t oppose a black actor in the role, at least not on principle, but as I say I have some misgivings.

To start, it will no longer be Bond, but “Black Bond”. What I mean by that is the actor won’t be given a fair shot. He won’t be allowed to be Bond, but instead will be judged on an entirely different scale. Everything he does will be seen through the prism of race. This brings up my next point.

Obviously race will be an issue. Of course real racists won’t like him based solely on his skin tone, but who really cares what they think anyway. However any criticism of the actor or even the movie itself will be labeled “racist” and discounted as the rambling of Klansmen, thereby discouraging any constructive criticism. For instance our favorite gathering spot ClassicBond.com will be labeled a “bastion of racists”, a “digital Klan meeting”.

And finally it will open an entire Pandora’s Box for EON when it comes to their film making. If he is portrayed as “too black” EON will be accused of turning it in to a minstrel show, but “not black enough” and they’re “white washing the actor”.

Have “Black Bond” make love to predominantly black women and the producers are too afraid to show a black man put his hands on white women. (An argument made by one of Horowitz’s detractors)

Not enough black women and you’re depicting him as some wild sex crazy black man who can’t keep his hands off white women, not to mention accusations of not thinking black women are beautiful.

In short everything “Black Bond” does will be tinged with racial misgivings, things we wouldn’t have batted an eye over in years past will be seen as “racist” or “degrading”, it’ll be a Goldilocks cabin but without Baby Bear’s items to rest on, everything will be “too hard” or “too soft”. We already have enough trouble with the “sexism” and “misogynist” labels to be adding any more.

[Veronica]

Its IN to be way TOO political correct in the USA.
It has nothing to do with racism but Bond IS NOT black.
He is written as a white character,as an Englishmen.
That's just the way it is.

[The Saint 007]

The people who love to shout "racist" at those who object a black actor playing Bond seem to forget the backlash Craig received when he was announced as the new Bond. I can't stand the mentality of how if someone can act they should be able to qualify for the role. To me, an actor has to look and play the part properly. No matter how much praise gets for his acting ability, his looks and mannerisms are just not suitable, in my opinion. The more classic Bond elements the filmmakers try to cram in, the more ridiculous and out of place Craig looks.

The series is truly running out of steam if casting a black actor is considered innovative. Not only will it likely create the issues that Benny stated, but it could also lead to the demand for Bond to be other various ethnicities.

[Veronica]

Speaking of Craig's "incredible" acting talent...where is it?
I find him to be totally inexpresive.

[Kristatos]

Speaking of Craig's "incredible" acting talent...where is it?
I find him to be totally inexpresive.

There was a psychological experiment carried out in Russia where subjects were shown headshots of a famous Russian silent movie star and asked what his expression conveyed. What they weren't told is that what they thought was a dozen different photos of the actor was actually the same photo 12 times. Nonetheless, they said a different emotion every time: happiness, fear and so on. I think the same phenomenon is at work in the Craigskis.

[Omega]

Opening of TLD , before the song starts Dalton is Bond. Opening of GE Brosnan is Bond. I don't have a moment where Craig becomes Bond.

If you listen closely neither do Craig and the producers.

At the end of Cr he was not bond yet, same of qos, sf looked like the end was a start to Connery s bond but guess what it's time daddy issues and what the hell I'll quit again.

Opening gun barrel will be empty


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