Agreed. I disagree with Trump about almost everything, but if he's the people's choice, I'd be quite upset if the party bigwigs pulled sone dirty trick to impose someone like Jeb! as the nominee. Plus, I'm curious to see how the M$M would react to a Sanders vs Trump contest. If it's Hillary vs Trump or Sanders vs Jeb!, I'd expect them to rally around the establishment candidate. But if you had two candidates who threatened to upset the apple cart?Omega wrote:I'd like the final nominees in both parties to be whoever the party bosses do not want. Right now is sanders trump and cruz.
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The way I feel now is i'd take trump , or sanders if he can make it. Sick of the bushes as usual Washington I'd take a bad choice over more of the same.Kristatos wrote:Agreed. I disagree with Trump about almost everything, but if he's the people's choice, I'd be quite upset if the party bigwigs pulled sone dirty trick to impose someone like Jeb! as the nominee. Plus, I'm curious to see how the M$M would react to a Sanders vs Trump contest. If it's Hillary vs Trump or Sanders vs Jeb!, I'd expect them to rally around the establishment candidate. But if you had two candidates who threatened to upset the apple cart?Omega wrote:I'd like the final nominees in both parties to be whoever the party bosses do not want. Right now is sanders trump and cruz.
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Latest NATIONAL poll has her only up now by 2 points, 44-42
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Sanders schlonged Hillary . Big time
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Her online supporters are pretending like it's no big deal, but the increasingly ugly and hysterical tone of her campaign tells a different story. Bill in particular seems to have gone off the deep end. I'm starting to think that he wants his third term more than Hillary wants her first.Omega wrote:Sanders schlonged Hillary . Big time
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The clintons have gotten out of outrageous situation after outrageous situation for longer than I've been alive, not being able to do it now confuses them.Kristatos wrote:Her online supporters are pretending like it's no big deal, but the increasingly ugly and hysterical tone of her campaign tells a different story. Bill in particular seems to have gone off the deep end. I'm starting to think that he wants his third term more than Hillary wants her first.Omega wrote:Sanders schlonged Hillary . Big time
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The bush family too. Jeb! and Hillary can't understand why being establishment is not a resume enhancer.
Bill is falling apart because their grip on power is slipping away. Also the new generation treat him like a sex pervert/serial abuser, IMO that really rattled him and threw him off his game more than the thought of being irrelevant.
Hillary trying to attack sanders backfires, nobody believes he is artfully smearing Hillary, and it's her supporters in front of every camera they can find smearing and insulting sanders and his supporters.
Lastly the feminist icons powerful Clinton backers from the 80's (who helped cover up bill's sexual misconduct) are less thab irrelevant to today's young. Young women today don't think it's unusual for a woman to run for president or be president, thank to popular shows and Hillary continually running for the job nonstop most of their lives.
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Yeah, those scolding lectures from elderly feminists are probably doing more harm than good in their aim of attracting young women away from Bernie and towards Hillary. It must sound like they're being told off by mom.
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Reading bill maher's opinion on the election. He nails part of why Hillary fails but he is so in the tank for the democrats he can't believe she or Obama ever did a wrong.
Then he surprises me be being willing to take on sharia law and refugees
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or great grandma telling you to go to hellKristatos wrote:Yeah, those scolding lectures from elderly feminists are probably doing more harm than good in their aim of attracting young women away from Bernie and towards Hillary. It must sound like they're being told off by mom.
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If the superdelegates try to override the will of the people, I think there will be civil war within the Undemocratic Party.Omega wrote:See that super delegate BS?
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On both sides there will be a revolution if the will of the people is superseded by party insiders.
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She's even outsourcing her fundraising: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/fun ... -in-mexico
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At least she does a lot of work for charity. Oh, wait....
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/11/polit ... index.html
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her heart is too big .Kristatos wrote:At least she does a lot of work for charity. Oh, wait....
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The Clinton foundations are a web of cleverly registered charities around the world which only help the clintons. Subpoena only one registered group will never bring the other foundations to light.
They can not get the approval of charity watchdogs and she has the balls the attack sanders for taking money for speeches which were under $2k and donated to real charities.
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What do you think this is, a democracy? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara ... rs-elected
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the rational behind the super delegates was cockamamie to start with now it's clear their only purpose is to steel the election for the candidate the establishment wants and the clintons worked for years to rig this election. Republican did a similar thing rigging the outcome it towards Jeb! Then trump shows up and may secure the nomination using the mechanisms put in place for the joyful tortoise Jeb!'s benefit.Kristatos wrote:What do you think this is, a democracy? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara ... rs-elected
But Hillary losing in a landslide and picking up more delegates is easy for everyone to understand I hope it outrages people enough for sanders to breakthrough Hilary's firewall in the south. I don't understand why any minority group would think the clintons or any candidate have their best interests at heart. It's not like sanders if elected wouldn't actually do more for the oppressed than the people who run a charity where they (the clintons) are the main benefactor.
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Did you see they also relaxed the fund raising standards Obama put in place 2008 to help Hillary get Wall Street money
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