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James wrote:On the subject of boxing, congratulations to Tyson Fury.Image My favourite boxing film is Somebody Up There Likes Me with Paul Newman. BJ is correct about realism in Rocky films (although they are great fun). Rocky wouldn't be allowed in a boxing ring in the first place with that defence. He doesn't even know how to slip a jab.
I was watching a montage of his fights a real box would have cleaned his clock first round , he telegraphs all his moves, strongest move is so obvious it's painful.

But his Rambo is the same way, Rambo 2 he is back in his element but making quick movements when the spot light comes on is a sure way to be spotted. Let's put it like this the super soldier Rambo didn't have to be betrayed to get captured he would have ended up being tortured by Vladimir Putin,,, er, I mean Anonymous Russian, no matter what.




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If Rocky was a real boxer someone like Lennox Lewis would have stopped him in about 10 seconds. You can't block punches with your face! If you join an amateur boxing club the first thing they teach you is balance and then defence. And the top professional boxers will have good head movement so they are hard to hit with clean punches. It's just the way they portray boxing in films I suppose. Make it more cinematic and exciting.

The most enjoyably daft super soldier on film is Arnold Schwarzenegger at the end of Commando when he takes out a small army on his own. :lol:

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James wrote:http://www.thebondbulletin.com/work-on- ... pring-2016

While the latest Bond thriller “Spectre” is still in cinemas around the world, producer Barbara Broccoli recently shed some light on the next film of the popular franchise – BOND25.

In a recent interview with Swiss news magazine 20Minuten.ch, Barbara Broccoli, daugther of legendary producer Albert R. Broccoli, revealed that work on the 25th adventure of agent 007 could begin as early as spring 2016. “We have put three years of work into Spectre. It was a thrill, but now we want to enjoy the success and the reactions of the audiences. In spring we start again.”

Much has been speculated about Daniel Craig wanting to leave the role. On the subject whether he would return for a fifth Bond outing, Broccoli commented: “I hope we can continue with Daniel. I love him, obviously not just me but also the audience. I will try my best to keep him on.”

With the re-appearance of infamous terror organisation S.P.E.C.T.R.E. and its leader Ernst Stavro Blofeld, fans wondered whether Bond could possibly encounter both again in upcoming films of the world-famous spy thriller franchise. “It’s always a challenge to keep the balance between what the fans want and the demand to provide them with something new and surprising”, says Broccoli. “I think, the end of Spectre leaves us with endless possibilities. That’s a good starting point.”

BOND25 could see the return of Christoph Waltz to a possible cast as his character did not die at the end of “Spectre” but was captured. Same can be said about Léa Seydoux who drove off with Bond and maybe even for Monica Belluci’s character Lucia Sciarra who was advised by Bond to contact his CIA friend Felix Leiter for protection. Since the Daniel Craig films have been tied together by a common story arc, it would not be entirely out of the question.
is this the same crap where they started working on spectre in 2013 but didn't have a finished script when they started shooting ?

But if this is serious and the mean to get bond 25 in theaters by 2017, the way Craig was acting I doubt he'd want to come back so soon.

But continuing spectre is a problem , one because it's so awful, two because it continues the Craig universe. It'd be better to leave it as done with a happy ending. If the have to finish it then and Craig will not come back get Brosnan to finish it off as a one off old bond story although he'd look younger than Craig, and end the Craig verse as a stand alone universe.

Also could mean they leave it as Craig and mendes said it finished Craigs bond story arc , first time we had one of those out side the blofeld stories and it's a huge mistake. They don't have to make everything so d**n intricate, just tell the story. Because when they try it fails they can't even get stories straight SF to SP with the same people involved.


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I hope this is an old interview because the alternative is that Barbara hasn't read any Spectre reviews. Daniel Craig is also doing Othello next year so he'll be busy.
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James wrote:On the subject of boxing, congratulations to Tyson Fury.Image My favourite boxing film is Somebody Up There Likes Me with Paul Newman. BJ is correct about realism in Rocky films (although they are great fun). Rocky wouldn't be allowed in a boxing ring in the first place with that defence. He doesn't even know how to slip a jab.
I was watching a montage of his fights a real box would have cleaned his clock first round , he telegraphs all his moves, strongest move is so obvious it's painful.

But his Rambo is the same way, Rambo 2 he is back in his element but making quick movements when the spot light comes on is a sure way to be spotted. Let's put it like this the super soldier Rambo didn't have to be betrayed to get captured he would have ended up being tortured by Vladimir Putin,,, er, I mean Anonymous Russian, no matter what.




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If Rocky was a real boxer someone like Lennox Lewis would have stopped him in about 10 seconds. You can't block punches with your face! If you join an amateur boxing club the first thing they teach you is balance and then defence. And the top professional boxers will have good head movement so they are hard to hit with clean punches. It's just the way they portray boxing in films I suppose. Make it more cinematic and exciting.

The most enjoyably daft super soldier on film is Arnold Schwarzenegger at the end of Commando when he takes out a small army on his own. :lol:

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they are talking about a Oscar for Stallone for creed, he might get it because they didn't give it to him for rocky kind of like John Wayne won for true grit because they denied him a Oscar back in the 40's.
Speaking of true grit I've been to the Colorado town (Ouray) In the original movie, in fact Durango has a hotel which only claim to fame is John Wayne stayed there.


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I hope this is an old interview because the alternative is that Barbara hasn't read any Spectre reviews. Daniel Craig is also doing Othello next year so he'll be busy.
alternatively maybe she knows he ain't coming back maybe doesn't want him to and is planning on a fresh start with a new actor. I'm not going to hold my breath.

But if they want to recast starting in spring is the right move. The excitement by the time they get to November 2017 would be huge.

Or maybe they should just write a d**n script that is finished by the time they shoot.




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No! Lol!

Wilson and Broccoli have both made it perfectly loud and clear that they want Daniel Craig back for the next one.

As for the starting next spring comment; that means 'pre-production', which is a very long drawn out process.

It'll be the typical 3 year gap, which we've become accustomed to, in recent times with the franchise. Unlike the olden days, with Cubby having the strong determination, willpower and enthusiasm to get them rolling out every 2 years.

So, I wouldn't expect to see Bond 25 hit the movie theatres, until the fall of 2018. Which means, cameras would start rolling at the end of 2017/beginning of 2018.

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Babzy and Mgw were in love with Brosnan until they weren't they never say they don't want current bond back until he is the previous bond


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I am surprised Broccoli actually said she "hoped" Cr-egg would return which is not her usually emphatic "absolutely" he will return. First thing is finding a possible new partner like WB before any talk of Bond 25 is begun. The new company could have a say in the decision that "greeny" might not want to hear.
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bjmdds wrote:I am surprised Broccoli actually said she "hoped" Cr-egg would return which is not her usually emphatic "absolutely" he will return. First thing is finding a possible new partner like WB before any talk of Bond 25 is begun. The new company could have a say in the decision that "greeny" might not want to hear.
Her comment also stood out for me. When Skyfall was released, she and the studio quickly stated that Craig was signed on for two more. It turned out they only signed him for one (Spectre). But there was that confidence back then in their announcement, boldly asserting that Craig would be back. Now it's more like she's coming to terms with the idea that there's a question mark over Craig.
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In that Barabara Broccoli interview, she's obviously still in PR mode for Spectre.

“We have put three years of work into Spectre.
It was more like three days of work on the script. Everything else for the film was made up as they filmed it.

It was a thrill, but now we want to enjoy the success and the reactions of the audiences. In spring we start again.”
In other words, she has no idea what's going on.

I will try my best to keep him [Craig] on.”
In other words, he wants out; and she's trying to put on a pleasant facade in the shenanigans.
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Mendes is done. I doubt he wants any part of the franchise after his second one tanked SK-Awful's box office globally. Cr-egg just might not want this either, after 10 years of being involved since the infamous boat ride on the Thames in 2005. He has no career any way, and has made enough money so he could go back to theatre productions. Too bad he was not cast for The Wiz next Thursday here on NBC because he would play a great cowardly lion in this PC junk that will bomb in the ratings with terrible actors with limited talent. It's a disgrace to ever try to recapture the 1939 The Wizard Of Oz by anyone. It just cannot be done, even doing this Michael Jackson remake. :down:
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bjmdds wrote:I am surprised Broccoli actually said she "hoped" Cr-egg would return which is not her usually emphatic "absolutely" he will return. First thing is finding a possible new partner like WB before any talk of Bond 25 is begun. The new company could have a say in the decision that "greeny" might not want to hear.
Her comment also stood out for me. When Skyfall was released, she and the studio quickly stated that Craig was signed on for two more. It turned out they only signed him for one (Spectre). But there was that confidence back then in their announcement, boldly asserting that Craig would be back. Now it's more like she's coming to terms with the idea that there's a question mark over Craig.
It looks that way Atticus. We can see a crack in her Cr-egg infatuation armor finally coming to the surface.
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Veronica wrote:So I was just going through Cosmopolitan during breakfast(yes,I was that bored) and found an article about Monica Bellucci a.k.a as the article stated first Bond woman. And basically it said how she is not anothet girl who goes through the movie in a bikini and bla bla bla...I woder if that person actually saw the movie. Bellucci has a cameo and is basically there to get underssed. What are we talking about here?!?!? Bond woman? That's Diana Rigg.
And there was also some nonsense how since Craig became Bond the movies aren't for "slightly older children" but have become complexed *excuse me while I bang my head against the wall* because Bond fell in love for the first time and lost a woman he loves. There is nothing more ridiculous when someone pretends how she/he actually saw most of the movies or minority of them even.
Needless to say,I threw that magazine away.

Yeah V, I've seen that "Bond Woman" rubbish before in several other articles, what they forget, or most likely never knew, is Honor Blackman was 38 when she played Pussy Galore, a whole 4 years older than Connery! If anything Bellucci is the first "Bond Granny"! You pretty much summed it all up in the bit of your quote I bolded above!
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bjmdds wrote:
Atticus wrote:
bjmdds wrote:I am surprised Broccoli actually said she "hoped" Cr-egg would return which is not her usually emphatic "absolutely" he will return. First thing is finding a possible new partner like WB before any talk of Bond 25 is begun. The new company could have a say in the decision that "greeny" might not want to hear.
Her comment also stood out for me. When Skyfall was released, she and the studio quickly stated that Craig was signed on for two more. It turned out they only signed him for one (Spectre). But there was that confidence back then in their announcement, boldly asserting that Craig would be back. Now it's more like she's coming to terms with the idea that there's a question mark over Craig.
It looks that way Atticus. We can see a crack in her Cr-egg infatuation armor finally coming to the surface.


I don't understand why you lot are talking this way about Daniel Craig's mindset on returning for Bond 25.

Sean Connery, actually did quit the role, whilst YOLT was filming and came back for DAF. Roger Moore told the media, he wasn't returning after Moonraker, yet, he made a further 3 Bond movies. Pierce Brosnan, even said; on occasions, before his original 3 picture contract expired, that he would 'like to move on afterwards' (quit). He still agreed to do Die Another Day, which was a stand alone film contract.

Daniel Craig's behaviour, is only mirroring that of his predecessor's.

Another reason, why he has been behaving so coy about doing another one, is because; before Spectre was released, up until today, he doesn't/didn't know how well the movie would perform at the box office. That alone, plays a significant factor, on how much leverage, he'd have to negotiate new terms and condition's/more money etc.

If Spectre had totaled out, at only $4/500 million, then the notion of casting a new actor, would be justified. Spectre has already reached $749,556,967. Looks pretty good to me! By Christmas, it will be $800 million+.

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Unlike, the circumstances, which prevailed with Pierce Brosnan, EON had the rights to Casino Royale burning a hole in their pocket's, which, as I've already said; required a reboot, with a new actor.

I doubt there is any need to reboot the franchise again, in the foreseeable future.
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I don't remember any of the other Bonds saying they would rather slash their wrist than return for another movie.
I don't even know why you are here Trolly(but maybe your name says it all). Obviously you love Craig so I don't know what are you doing on THIS forum. Go talk about "marvelous" Craig somehwere else.
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I saw there were discussion about Rocky above. I love the films. Rocky III is my favourite with Mr T as Clubber Lang. Rocky IV is very weird. Rocky fights a Soviet Union boxer (Dolph Lundgren) in Russia on Christmas day.
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James wrote:http://www.thebondbulletin.com/work-on- ... pring-2016

While the latest Bond thriller “Spectre” is still in cinemas around the world, producer Barbara Broccoli recently shed some light on the next film of the popular franchise – BOND25.

In a recent interview with Swiss news magazine 20Minuten.ch, Barbara Broccoli, daugther of legendary producer Albert R. Broccoli, revealed that work on the 25th adventure of agent 007 could begin as early as spring 2016. “We have put three years of work into Spectre. It was a thrill, but now we want to enjoy the success and the reactions of the audiences. In spring we start again.”

Much has been speculated about Daniel Craig wanting to leave the role. On the subject whether he would return for a fifth Bond outing, Broccoli commented: “I hope we can continue with Daniel. I love him, obviously not just me but also the audience. I will try my best to keep him on.”

With the re-appearance of infamous terror organisation S.P.E.C.T.R.E. and its leader Ernst Stavro Blofeld, fans wondered whether Bond could possibly encounter both again in upcoming films of the world-famous spy thriller franchise. “It’s always a challenge to keep the balance between what the fans want and the demand to provide them with something new and surprising”, says Broccoli. “I think, the end of Spectre leaves us with endless possibilities. That’s a good starting point.”

BOND25 could see the return of Christoph Waltz to a possible cast as his character did not die at the end of “Spectre” but was captured. Same can be said about Léa Seydoux who drove off with Bond and maybe even for Monica Belluci’s character Lucia Sciarra who was advised by Bond to contact his CIA friend Felix Leiter for protection. Since the Daniel Craig films have been tied together by a common story arc, it would not be entirely out of the question.
"enjoy the success and the reactions of the audiences"... :lol:
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Image They screen tested Cr-egg's replacement it appears, and it's quite a likeness.
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