The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[dirtybenny]

I didn't have a chance to comment on this as it came up so sorry to dig up the bones of a past subject, but I couldn't let this go!

On whether he hesitated in doing a Bond film:
"I did, yes. I always hesitate... You ask yourself, hang on: what James Bond are we talking about? The thing about Spectre is that it is not the work of hack writers. It does not have a hack director. The actors are not hams. The action sequences in Mexico are extravagant to say the least. The scenes in Austria are traditional Bond action in the snow. These films with Daniel Craig have shifted the tone. They don't depend on a set formula that forces actors simply to go through the motions."

Hack writers? So I Assume you aren't talking about the scribes of the current film you are staring in, the one written by John "I wish I were a T.V. writer" Logan and especially the modern day Bards, Pervis and Wade, you know the two who wrote every Bond film since TWINE including the much maligned (by EON) DAD you know the one with the "evil" invisible car. Yeah they certainly aren't the hacks you're referring to

The actors are not "Hams" so what are you doing here?

Also Bond is the result of "hacks" but "traditional" Bond is good? What the hell are you saying????

And they do follow a set formula that forces actors to go through the motions, but rather than the "Bond" formula it's the "origin story" "artsy" formula.

On whether he is playing the classic Bond villain Blofeld:
"That is absolutely untrue. That rumour started on the Internet, and the Internet is a pest. The name of my character is Franz Oberhauser." On achieving success later in his career:
"I do feel I can say - without smugness - that this feels good. I am entitled. I am entitled to judge the situation and say that yes: it feels good, and that yes, I agree with you. I feel like I served my time. I feel I have paid [my dues]." (this clown is as irrational as Tiger Woods was today at the Masters press conference where he actually said he thinks he can win after not playing proper golf in over 1 year and saying no second hand advice can tell him what to do on the golf course. He will be lucky if he even makes the cut )

On the one hand I don't expect him to come out and give away the "twist" ending, but I also find it laughable how EON and crew pretend how the Sony leaks never happened and gave it all away, his and EON's insistence that he is not Blofeld is ridiculous! Maybe you should take a page from the real life secret services and neither confirm nor deny the fact you are playing him.


And finally

Christoph Waltz: BOND MOVIES ARE LIKE PUNCH AND JUDY SHOWS---The Austrian star (Waltz) said that he only wanted to appear in a certain "kind" of Bond film - and compared the movies to Punch and Judy shows. "I did, yes (think twice). I always hesitate... You ask yourself, hang on: what James Bond are we talking about?"

Punch and Judy!

Really!!!!!!

This from the man whose last two films were directed by Tarantino!

The king of over the top!!!

You were in a film (Inglorious Basterds) in which Brad Pitt had the most ridiculous "southern" accent and attempted to pass it off while speaking french! Not to mention your OTT performance.

Let's not forget Django unchained!!! Need I say more?!

Now I can't fault Mr. Waltz for not realizing these points, after all like most of Hollywood, he's had his head up his own rear end for quite sometime, because he enjoys the aroma.

This should also serve as a lesson to EON that they will never attain the artsy respect they so crave, especially when even their own stars consider their work beneath them!!!!!

[Veronica]

Riiight,because now REAL Bond movies are now beneath the actors right? No matter that not so long ago the villans were played by well-known talented actors like Sean Bean,Sophie Marceau and Jonathan Pryce. And this 2 times Oscar winner wanted to appear in ONLY a certain "kind" of a Bond movie.. a rubbish one... not to mention that the director that took him for his two movies actually wanted to do a real Bond movie..

[Veronica]

the point of Bond movies is the best of the best ones are so thrilling... From Russia With Love,GoldenEye,Goldfinger,The Spy Who Loved Me. They are so great that I wanna scream how much of a greatness that is.. with these Craig movies the only thing I can say is that they bore me. In real Bond movies there were always the moments that just said :"Bond!" andyou always thought "Oh God this Bond he is so cool only he could do that!" David Arnold himself said:"When Bond does something Bondesque there is only really one piece of music you can play." And it's absolutely right. Just look at that casino scene in Dr.No. For the first time Bond introduces himself:"Bond.James Bond" while the tune kicks in. And that's just GREATNESS! CRaig movies are boredom.

[bjmdds]

I didn't have a chance to comment on this as it came up so sorry to dig up the bones of a past subject, but I couldn't let this go!

On whether he hesitated in doing a Bond film:
"I did, yes. I always hesitate... You ask yourself, hang on: what James Bond are we talking about? The thing about Spectre is that it is not the work of hack writers. It does not have a hack director. The actors are not hams. The action sequences in Mexico are extravagant to say the least. The scenes in Austria are traditional Bond action in the snow. These films with Daniel Craig have shifted the tone. They don't depend on a set formula that forces actors simply to go through the motions."

Hack writers? So I Assume you aren't talking about the scribes of the current film you are staring in, the one written by John "I wish I were a T.V. writer" Logan and especially the modern day Bards, Pervis and Wade, you know the two who wrote every Bond film since TWINE including the much maligned (by EON) DAD you know the one with the "evil" invisible car. Yeah they certainly aren't the hacks you're referring to

The actors are not "Hams" so what are you doing here?

Also Bond is the result of "hacks" but "traditional" Bond is good? What the hell are you saying????

And they do follow a set formula that forces actors to go through the motions, but rather than the "Bond" formula it's the "origin story" "artsy" formula.

On whether he is playing the classic Bond villain Blofeld:
"That is absolutely untrue. That rumour started on the Internet, and the Internet is a pest. The name of my character is Franz Oberhauser." On achieving success later in his career:
"I do feel I can say - without smugness - that this feels good. I am entitled. I am entitled to judge the situation and say that yes: it feels good, and that yes, I agree with you. I feel like I served my time. I feel I have paid [my dues]." (this clown is as irrational as Tiger Woods was today at the Masters press conference where he actually said he thinks he can win after not playing proper golf in over 1 year and saying no second hand advice can tell him what to do on the golf course. He will be lucky if he even makes the cut )

On the one hand I don't expect him to come out and give away the "twist" ending, but I also find it laughable how EON and crew pretend how the Sony leaks never happened and gave it all away, his and EON's insistence that he is not Blofeld is ridiculous! Maybe you should take a page from the real life secret services and neither confirm nor deny the fact you are playing him.


And finally

Christoph Waltz: BOND MOVIES ARE LIKE PUNCH AND JUDY SHOWS---The Austrian star (Waltz) said that he only wanted to appear in a certain "kind" of Bond film - and compared the movies to Punch and Judy shows. "I did, yes (think twice). I always hesitate... You ask yourself, hang on: what James Bond are we talking about?"

Punch and Judy!

Really!!!!!!

This from the man whose last two films were directed by Tarantino!

The king of over the top!!!

You were in a film (Inglorious Basterds) in which Brad Pitt had the most ridiculous "southern" accent and attempted to pass it off while speaking french! Not to mention your OTT performance.

Let's not forget Django unchained!!! Need I say more?!

Now I can't fault Mr. Waltz for not realizing these points, after all like most of Hollywood, he's had his head up his own rear end for quite sometime, because he enjoys the aroma.

This should also serve as a lesson to EON that they will never attain the artsy respect they so crave, especially when even their own stars consider their work beneath them!!!!!

I wish a reporter asked the green vegetable and the hibernating dolt how they feel about Waltz's disparaging remarks about their inherited franchise. It might be they actually agree with Waltz and want to erase all semblance of Cubby's tenure as the head cheese If Cubby were in charge, there is no way Brosnan does not get a 5th film, or 6th, and there is no way Cr-egg gets the role after him.

[Veronica]

I didn't have a chance to comment on this as it came up so sorry to dig up the bones of a past subject, but I couldn't let this go!

On whether he hesitated in doing a Bond film:
"I did, yes. I always hesitate... You ask yourself, hang on: what James Bond are we talking about? The thing about Spectre is that it is not the work of hack writers. It does not have a hack director. The actors are not hams. The action sequences in Mexico are extravagant to say the least. The scenes in Austria are traditional Bond action in the snow. These films with Daniel Craig have shifted the tone. They don't depend on a set formula that forces actors simply to go through the motions."

Hack writers? So I Assume you aren't talking about the scribes of the current film you are staring in, the one written by John "I wish I were a T.V. writer" Logan and especially the modern day Bards, Pervis and Wade, you know the two who wrote every Bond film since TWINE including the much maligned (by EON) DAD you know the one with the "evil" invisible car. Yeah they certainly aren't the hacks you're referring to

The actors are not "Hams" so what are you doing here?

Also Bond is the result of "hacks" but "traditional" Bond is good? What the hell are you saying????

And they do follow a set formula that forces actors to go through the motions, but rather than the "Bond" formula it's the "origin story" "artsy" formula.

On whether he is playing the classic Bond villain Blofeld:
"That is absolutely untrue. That rumour started on the Internet, and the Internet is a pest. The name of my character is Franz Oberhauser." On achieving success later in his career:
"I do feel I can say - without smugness - that this feels good. I am entitled. I am entitled to judge the situation and say that yes: it feels good, and that yes, I agree with you. I feel like I served my time. I feel I have paid [my dues]." (this clown is as irrational as Tiger Woods was today at the Masters press conference where he actually said he thinks he can win after not playing proper golf in over 1 year and saying no second hand advice can tell him what to do on the golf course. He will be lucky if he even makes the cut )

On the one hand I don't expect him to come out and give away the "twist" ending, but I also find it laughable how EON and crew pretend how the Sony leaks never happened and gave it all away, his and EON's insistence that he is not Blofeld is ridiculous! Maybe you should take a page from the real life secret services and neither confirm nor deny the fact you are playing him.


And finally

Christoph Waltz: BOND MOVIES ARE LIKE PUNCH AND JUDY SHOWS---The Austrian star (Waltz) said that he only wanted to appear in a certain "kind" of Bond film - and compared the movies to Punch and Judy shows. "I did, yes (think twice). I always hesitate... You ask yourself, hang on: what James Bond are we talking about?"

Punch and Judy!

Really!!!!!!

This from the man whose last two films were directed by Tarantino!

The king of over the top!!!

You were in a film (Inglorious Basterds) in which Brad Pitt had the most ridiculous "southern" accent and attempted to pass it off while speaking french! Not to mention your OTT performance.

Let's not forget Django unchained!!! Need I say more?!

Now I can't fault Mr. Waltz for not realizing these points, after all like most of Hollywood, he's had his head up his own rear end for quite sometime, because he enjoys the aroma.

This should also serve as a lesson to EON that they will never attain the artsy respect they so crave, especially when even their own stars consider their work beneath them!!!!!

I wish a reporter asked the green vegetable and the hibernating dolt how they feel about Waltz's disparaging remarks about their inherited franchise. It might be they actually agree with Waltz and want to erase all semblance of Cubby's tenure as the head cheese If Cubby were in charge, there is no way Brosnan does not get a 5th film, or 6th, and there is no way Cr-egg gets the role after him.

Exactly-about Brosnan and Craig. But green vegetable and Wilson did say how we should "forget everything we know about Bond". we should forget about charismatic ,sophisticated "shaken not stirred" secret agent. The handsome dark haired tall secret agent that has charm and style and that charisma that you just have to admire. it's like saying we should stop dreaming about tropical beaches and start dreaming about war in Iraq. Lord. Cubby must be rolling in his grave.

[Omega]

Fast 7 is dominating the Bo. It buried sky falls billion in less time as well.

Why do blart and hot tub time machine get sequels and decent ivied like November man, dredd and others not get one.

The other movie ini used to complain about not get a sequel is pacific rim and they finally got ok for one last year


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[Omega]

Fast 7's budget was supposed to be $190 million , that's a lot and they had to do a lot of extra work because walkers death.
Still they made a lot of money and for more reasonable amount than is spent on bond


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[Veronica]

Also,in Casino Royale there is a scene were Bond says:" I have no idea what an honest job is." Are you kidding me?!!! The man is a secret agent and that isn't really the most relaxing and safe job in the world. He's not modeling. He puts his life in danger for Queen and Country. God....

[Dr. No]

Also,in Casino Royale there is a scene were Bond says:" I have no idea what an honest job is." Are you kidding me?!!! The man is a secret agent and that isn't really the most relaxing and safe job in the world. He's not modeling. He puts his life in danger for Queen and Country. God....

He was supposed to be a soldier immediately before this not a used car sales man. Doesn't get much more honest a job than being willing to die for your country.

I get what they were trying to do they were saying this lifestyle and killing people for the government was a shady shadow job eating away at Bond soul.

[Dr. No]

7 Fast and Furious movies!

When the first one was out there was all that protest about the movie making young kids want to race (Same people who were always down on Bond and video games when I was a kid) Riiiiiggghhtt. Kind with cars never dreamed of racing before F&F

[Veronica]

Also,in Casino Royale there is a scene were Bond says:" I have no idea what an honest job is." Are you kidding me?!!! The man is a secret agent and that isn't really the most relaxing and safe job in the world. He's not modeling. He puts his life in danger for Queen and Country. God....

He was supposed to be a soldier immediately before this not a used car sales man. Doesn't get much more honest a job than being willing to die for your country.

I get what they were trying to do they were saying this lifestyle and killing people for the government was a shady shadow job eating away at Bond soul.

Well,it's not an everyday "honest" job but...it's not an easy job-yeah,Bond makes it more glamorous and more cool than it probably is but still..and his soul..please spare me that part of awful dialogue..."if you do what I do too much.."dude,you just got license to kill at the beginning of the movie...not only did they change the whole "charisma,elegance,looks,coolness" part but they also change one of the other core attributes of Bond-he is more than capable to do his job and M doesn't need to travel the world to lecture him how to behave.Didn't M tell Elektra in TWINE how "Bond is the best we have.Although I would never tell him that." Also,in the beginning of "The Spy Who Loved Me" M is talking on the phone and says:"I'll put our best men on the task.." and then asks Moneypenny where is Bond.Bond is also a man that was willing to do his job.Connery's Bond did it,Moore's did,Dalton may have coped with his job a little more difficult but he still did it.Brosnan's Bond seduced the evaluator,the doctor,escaped the medical boat...yeah,he was willing.Craig on the other hand is chased by his nanny and needs lessons on how to do his job..please!Wasn't Bond supposed to be a naval commander?I doubt he would ever got the title if he wasn't up to it.And then-he plays and acts wounded and angry boy for months and leads everyone to believe he is dead.And then when he comes back-he's not fired!I'm SO SURE MI5,MI6 and other services are that forgiving...on every job if you don't get the doctor clearance that you are sick you are fired!And I'm not talking about secret service...I'm talking about ordinary,more common jobs like school professor.

[The Sweeney]

Maybe it is just me, but reading these email exchanges from Amy Rascal and co. makes me want to vomit, when I see the kind of ridiculous ideas they were all throwing around - Blofeld a woman, M a traitor. Fleming probably still hasn't stopped spinning in his grave at the imbeciles in charge of the franchise he started.

Why can't we have a straightforward traditional 60's type storyline anymore?

These attempts at plot twists and turns have been in play ever since GE, when Sean Bean's character turned rogue (although you could argue we saw it first in FYEO, then again in TLD), but this seems to be a major trait now of the post Cubby era.

In the Fleming novels, this is not something that was really evident in his plots, which instead were fairly straightforward affairs. We normally knew from the outset who the villain was that Bond was about to pursue, and it didn't detract from that.

And the films followed suit for most part, up until Babs got her hands on the franchise. Now we have this concept of twists, reveals and Nolanesque origins, which is getting a bit too much.

As I have said in earlier posts, if this film reveals Blofeld is family connected to Bond in some way, this just pisses all over everything Fleming ever wrote from a Skyfall height, and totally discredits the well-used opinion that Craig's films are somehow closer to the Fleming novels.

[bjmdds]

You said it Sweeney. Broccoli's vision, with these misguided writers who only care about being politically correct, yet at the same time are unpatriotic by casting the USA and UK governments in a bad light, have ruined Fleming's creation It's a sickness that the liberals in Hollywood embrace. By the way, the Silva/Bond homosexual banter was NOT an innocent joke in SF. It was a test run to see audience reaction. Mark my words, Eon is headed down the path of a bi-sexual Bond as Broccoli's crowning, all inclusive achievement to society, in her demented mind. You WILL get the straight 60s storyline this summer when UNCLE hits the screens worldwide Ale plans to see it more times than FBF saw Harry Potter Enjoy it and remember the good old days when a spy film was supposedly a FUN thing to watch

[bjmdds]

2012: Movienewsguide.com: "Skyfall brings something new to the Bond franchise. It is the first time Agent 007 has a gay banter. Halfway through the movie, Bond (Daniel Craig) has been tied to a chair by the supervillain Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem). Silva then grabs 007’s knees and says that there’s a first time for everything. Bond grins and replies, “What makes you think this is my first time?” This sort of man-on-man innuendo would not be possible with Sean Connery as Bond. When Craig was tasked to play the role in 2006’s Casino Royale, every critic said that he’s not our father’s James Bond. And judging from Skyfall, it looks like they are right. A lot has changed since James bond first graced the big screen in 1962. He was the standard of manhood and it proved hard for the franchise to maintain that with the changing world. Bond can’t get away slapping women’s behinds and have one night stands with girls named Pussy Galore or Holly Goodhead. When Pierce Brosnan became Agent 007 in 1995’s GoldenEye, the franchise tried to tone down the sexual innuendos. M became a lady in the person of Dame Judi Dench. Bond girls started to kick ass as much as Bond. They are played by strong women such as Halle Berry, Michelle Yeoh and Denise Richards.Now that same-sex marriages are legal in nine states, it looks like the Bond producers are thinking of making Bond turn to guys as well. Well, someone who likes martinis and dresses in evening clothes must have something to hide."

[Veronica]

2012: Movienewsguide.com: "Skyfall brings something new to the Bond franchise. It is the first time Agent 007 has a gay banter. Halfway through the movie, Bond (Daniel Craig) has been tied to a chair by the supervillain Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem). Silva then grabs 007’s knees and says that there’s a first time for everything. Bond grins and replies, “What makes you think this is my first time?” This sort of man-on-man innuendo would not be possible with Sean Connery as Bond. When Craig was tasked to play the role in 2006’s Casino Royale, every critic said that he’s not our father’s James Bond. And judging from Skyfall, it looks like they are right. A lot has changed since James bond first graced the big screen in 1962. He was the standard of manhood and it proved hard for the franchise to maintain that with the changing world. Bond can’t get away slapping women’s behinds and have one night stands with girls named Pussy Galore or Holly Goodhead. When Pierce Brosnan became Agent 007 in 1995’s GoldenEye, the franchise tried to tone down the sexual innuendos. M became a lady in the person of Dame Judi Dench. Bond girls started to kick ass as much as Bond. They are played by strong women such as Halle Berry, Michelle Yeoh and Denise Richards.Now that same-sex marriages are legal in nine states, it looks like the Bond producers are thinking of making Bond turn to guys as well. Well, someone who likes martinis and dresses in evening clothes must have something to hide."

Wai Lin is quite popular as a Bond girl I think. I myself was never that thrilled with her but okay-she kicked ass and hold on her own and hooked up with Bond because pretty much the same reasons why Bond is only having superficial relationships. So it worked. But Halle Berry was so annoying. Natalia was actually ver important to the plot because she changed the codes. I like her. She probably wouldn't make my top 5 but still... Denise Richards-let's not even comment on it. But Bond is straight!!! Not only that but he is a womanizer! Didn't every Brosnan Bond movie show how women are Bond's weakness?? Yeah they did!!! Bond DOES NOT have gay experiences! Just like he drinks his vodka martini shaken and nost stirred. Just like he wears expensive watches(Rolex or since GoldenEye Omega) just like his suits are made in Savile Row... it's simply a fact. That's who Bond is. Of course after they made Bond charmless thug who doesn't care for his martini I wouldn't be suprised if they went on the "Bond is actually gay" path...

[bjmdds]

Not solely gay Veronica, because then Broccoli would not be inclusive of heterosexuals, but rather a bi-sexual Bond would be all encompassing for her, and a sick idea

[bjmdds]

Since Broccoli fired Brosnan in the manner she did, she could at least hire his wife to be Cr-egg's Bond girl. The new PLENTY O'Toole?

[Veronica]

Not solely gay Veronica, because then Broccoli would not be inclusive of heterosexuals, but rather a bi-sexual Bond would be all encompassing for her, and a sick idea

Nothing can suprise me anymore... but this "Bond equal" didn't start with GoldenEye. There was Triple X and Melina. And wasn't Octopussy a smugler and all around a competent woman? Britt Ekland was an MI6 agent but then again,not the most believeable one. Holly Goodhead was a CIA agent in Moonraker. And there were those two Bond girls in YOLT.Lucianna Paluzzi worked for SPECTRE and drove the car so fast even Bond wasn't so casual anymore Pussy Galore was a pilot. There was Pam in LTK. So the whole "girl power" didn't really start with GoldenEye

[Veronica]

Since Broccoli fired Brosnan in the manner she did, she could at least hire his wife to be Cr-egg's Bond girl. The new PLENTY O'Toole?

or perhaps hire one of his sons to be a villian or at least a henchmen!! Maybe a bartender!! Then one of them could drink vodka martini and Craig could drink Heineken because he looks more natural that way anyway...

[Alessandra]

Veronica, I can't wait for Man from U.N.C.L.E. and many lovers of ACTUAL and classic Bond are feeling the same way. It looks like a hell of a lot of fun and both Cavill and Hammer look fabulous in their respective roles.

I'm looking forward to the movie also. But, as a first-generation UNCLE fan, I have been surprised by some of the complaints of other original UNCLE-philes. A number hate that a movie was even made (they view it as something akin to sacrilege). This has carried over to the actors (both Henry Cavill and Armie Hammer). I saw a fan mock how Hammer speaks in a Russian accent (David McCallum didn't use one in the original).

The movie is a lot different than the show. What Guy Ritchie & Co. have attempted is to break it down to the basic elements and go from there. The timeline certainly is different. In the show, UNCLE was started sometime after the end of World War II and Solo and Kuryakin became agents in the 1950s. In the film, they work for the CIA and KGB and are forced to team up. Etc., etc. This, likewise, isn't going over well with some of the original fans.

I've even seen some fans complain the leads of the movie are *too* tall, too muscular, too good looking.

Meanwhile, in another bit of irony, one of the comic book-related pages on Facebook I frequent *hate* Man of Steel and dislike Cavill intensely. One even called him an "emo punk."

EDIT: The movie also changes Solo's back story. He now has a history of having once been an art thief before joining the CIA. This was disclosed when a magazine did a Cavill feature a month or so ago.

So,Solo in the movie is an ex-art thief turned secret agent? This just keeps getting better and better!! Thomas Crown and James Bond in one!!

I was about to say the exact same! LOL

Napoleon Solo, I am not worried about a MINORITY of people hating, there's always that minority. That trailer is at almost 3 million views, so the minority of dissatisfied fanboys can keep on going, they won't make a difference.
LOL about them complaining people are too tall or too good looking, what the hell is that? LMAO! And Armie Hammer speaking with an actual Russian accent is MUCH more realistic than someone who is Russian and speaks English without one.
What makes or breaks a movie is the general public, and it looks like this is being VERY well received. It's not a surprise, because it does look like a lot of fun. And that's all the general moviegoer cares about when going to watch a film like this one.

Also, BJ I have seen a hell of a lot of people being very excited for the new Superman vs Batman movie. So, it's untrue that the entire internet is against it. Just not true. People will judge when they see. And also and btw? Internet judgment NEVER determines what a movie does. And going by your comments, you're simply more suited to Marvel than you are to DC comics. Which is just fine. I was always the opposite. Ever since I was a kid. Much more DC comics oriented and those have ALWAYS had a way darker tone. Batman IS the essence of darkness and it shouldn't be "light" lol. And Superman is equally loved and looked at with suspicion by people. That was always the conflict in the comics. He's loved by the whole world, he's also looked at with suspicion at the same time. Which I think is an aspect they captured very well in Henry Cavill's debut. I watched Superman cartoons everyday in the afternoon when I was a kid. That is what was on TV. Superman, Batman & Robin , Spider Man and Fantastic Four. My favorite was always Superman.

Anyway, back to Man from U.N.C.L.E, the more details I hear, the more I CANNOT WAIT to see it. That is something that is GUARANTEED to entertain me!!