I hadn't heard all the details . Nice planebjmdds wrote:Harrison Ford’s plane crashes into Los Angeles golf course:The 72-year-old actor was reportedly flying over the Penmar Golf Course in Venice Thursday when his yellow, vintage aircraft crash landed into the green. TMZ reported that he suffered multiple gashes to his head and was bleeding.
Agreed completely.The Sweeney wrote:I must admit, I'm a bit baffled with this direction of SPECTRE. Why do we have to revisit Bond's childhood again? It was rather dull in SF, and makes no sense why they are pushing further down this route.
It has nothing to do with Fleming, just an interpretation of something Fleming wrote as a throwaway line.
They still have many unused scenes and stories from the Fleming novels. Give me another writer like Maibaum any day of the week, someone who understood the novels, and tapped into them and borrowed them whenever he could, whether it was scenes, moments or characters. He was particularly good at this from FYEO right the way through to LTK.
Couldn't we hear that SPECTRE was using some previously unused Fleming material, instead of this childhood crap...?
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But I think public tastes have changed since QOS was made. At the time, the Dark Knight trilogy was what every franchise aspired to be. Since then, we've seen Man of Steel perform worse than expected and Guardians of the Galaxy perform better than anybody expected. There are two films this year (Kingsman and The Man from UNCLE) that are explicitly marketing themselves as filling the gap for fun, colourful spy movies that Bond has vacated. I think even EON, as behind the curve as they usually are these days, would find it hard to ignore this change in the zeitgeist. What's more, the reaction to Mendes's comments seems to be fairly negative, even among those who had previously declared Craig to be the best thing since sliced bread. I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPECTRE publicity machine trying to walk them back in the very near future.Atticus wrote:That would be obviously extreme, and I'd like to think Eon still has enough taste not to go down that path. Then again, they did throw in a rape scene near the end of QOS where the idiotic Latin American general, Menendez or Medrano or whatever the hell he is called, attacks a young woman while explosions were going on, a useless scene that doesn't advance his character in any way because we were already told he's an evil guy.Omega wrote: Great the opening can be young bond being abused
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Good points, Kristatos, and thanks for the interesting discussion. I agree about the shift in the mood of the public. Eon and Mendes, though, don't seem to give a hoot. They're just adamant to have a Bond film regarded with "artistic" credibility, and the recent comments from Mendes about the childhood angle just reeks of more desperation to go down that path.Kristatos wrote:But I think public tastes have changed since QOS was made. At the time, the Dark Knight trilogy was what every franchise aspired to be. Since then, we've seen Man of Steel perform worse than expected and Guardians of the Galaxy perform better than anybody expected. I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPECTRE publicity machine trying to walk them back in the very near future.Atticus wrote:That would be obviously extreme, and I'd like to think Eon still has enough taste not to go down that path. Then again, they did throw in a rape scene near the end of QOS where the idiotic Latin American general, Menendez or Medrano or whatever the hell he is called, attacks a young woman while explosions were going on, a useless scene that doesn't advance his character in any way because we were already told he's an evil guy.Omega wrote: Great the opening can be young bond being abused
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Regarding Eon being "behind the curve": that's an apt description of one of the problems they've always had. When you look at Moonraker, jumping on that sci-fi bandwagon was already a bit late for them since the sci-fi craze of the late 70's was already waning. So here we are with SPECTRE, and I think they're hosed. It's certainly hard for them to ignore the reaction to Kingsman and the UNCLE trailer, but they've been shooting a Bond movie in the vein of "deep" and "serious", so I don't see how the PR machine can spin the final outcome as a fun escapist spy adventure like Kingsman. It's a bit like trying to market Silence of the Lambs as a light-hearted action film when it's obviously not. It won't surprise me if their PR message is something like, "Oh with the style of Kingsman, we've pioneered that. But we're way beyond that now. With the devastatingly brilliant Daniel Craig, the only actor to ever redefine acting for his generation, and the Shakespearean Sam Mendes, we're able to take Bond into a deeper artistic direction that's so rooted in Fleming." Whether the public (in the new sentiment today as you point out) will buy that crap is another matter.There are two films this year (Kingsman and The Man from UNCLE) that are explicitly marketing themselves as filling the gap for fun, colourful spy movies that Bond has vacated. I think even EON, as behind the curve as they usually are these days, would find it hard to ignore this change in the zeitgeist. What's more, the reaction to Mendes's comments seems to be fairly negative, even among those who had previously declared Craig to be the best thing since sliced bread. I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPECTRE publicity machine trying to walk them back in the very near future.
man I'd like to think you are right. Adventure movies made a huge comeback since the serious dark and gritty phase was big. Marvel reshaped the current land scape and the Bourne movies are drifting into the past.Kristatos wrote:But I think public tastes have changed since QOS was made. At the time, the Dark Knight trilogy was what every franchise aspired to be. Since then, we've seen Man of Steel perform worse than expected and Guardians of the Galaxy perform better than anybody expected. There are two films this year (Kingsman and The Man from UNCLE) that are explicitly marketing themselves as filling the gap for fun, colourful spy movies that Bond has vacated. I think even EON, as behind the curve as they usually are these days, would find it hard to ignore this change in the zeitgeist. What's more, the reaction to Mendes's comments seems to be fairly negative, even among those who had previously declared Craig to be the best thing since sliced bread. I wouldn't be surprised to see the SPECTRE publicity machine trying to walk them back in the very near future.Atticus wrote:That would be obviously extreme, and I'd like to think Eon still has enough taste not to go down that path. Then again, they did throw in a rape scene near the end of QOS where the idiotic Latin American general, Menendez or Medrano or whatever the hell he is called, attacks a young woman while explosions were going on, a useless scene that doesn't advance his character in any way because we were already told he's an evil guy.Omega wrote: Great the opening can be young bond being abused
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That's looking very d**n impressiveFormerBondFan wrote:I hope you guys are seeing this.
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Don't forget Babs. She's a real BIG problem. If she stays as producer after DC leaves, there's no point of watching James Bond anymore. Having her name listed as producer of post-DC Bond films starring a traditional classic tall and dark-haired Bond actor? Give me a F*CK*NG break!Alessandra wrote:As long as Craig is Bond, there's no James Bond for me.
