The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Blowfeld]

Pascal "begged" Brosnan to do Bond a few weeks before Cr-egg was announced? He said no? Where did you see this?

It's from an article before CR was released. He didn't say no. He said the decision was not up to him and they knew where to find him. Amy did not have the authority to hire or fire him, unfortunately this was Ms. Broccoli's.

[bjmdds]

That bum After wasting 3 years in limbo Pascal wanted Pierce to return just prior to the Cr-egg announcement? FBF, Broccoli is the root of all Bond evils

[Kristatos]

That bum After wasting 3 years in limbo Pascal wanted Pierce to return just prior to the Cr-egg announcement? FBF, Broccoli is the root of all Bond evils

And MGW, he has a say in these things too. I know he is not entirely compos mentis, but he still has enough of his marbles to be held partially responsible.

[Blowfeld]

The story we all have known is MGW and the studio were not happy with Craig. From what has been published we know Pierce and the others like Cleese were keeping their schedules open. As I remember it was stories about Pierce being fired then rumours it was all blown out of proportion just wait the gang will return.

I truly believe if CNB had started January 2005 when the first Daniel Craig rumours surfaced before the spin machine had time to muster their forces the reboot would never have happened. I'd say 50/50 on Pierce returning.

However once Daniel was officially cast there was too much invested to drop him. Not moneys, after all the power plays Ms Broccoli pulled to get her way she couldn't afford to drop Daniel, not without fatality wounding herself.

Weird it has been so quiet leading up to the Bond 24 it almost feels like it's not going to happen. This far into Bond 23 we were flooded with information. I almost wonder if Daniel wants to show up or not. Of course I can't imagine he would walk away from that much cash.

[Kristatos]

Do you have a source for the story that MGW was not happy with Craig? He seems very positive about him in every interview I've ever seen (in one, he more or less stated outright that he was glad his films succeeded because it made DCINBers unhappy), and he wanted to reboot the franchise with TLD, but Cubby said no.

[Blowfeld]

Do you have a source for the story that MGW was not happy with Craig? He seems very positive about him in every interview I've ever seen (in one, he more or less stated outright that he was glad his films succeeded because it made DCINBers unhappy), and he wanted to reboot the franchise with TLD, but Cubby said no.

It is here in the forum someplace. A interview with an artist neighbour of MGW, she mentions him coming over essentially upset or concerned over Daniel, the reboot or both.
She goes on to gush how wonderful it turned out and so forth.

I'll try to find it.

[Blowfeld]

First Quote

(September 14th, 2005) Brosnan candidly explained, "Sony are pulling their hair out over it, apparently. I was in their offices just a few weeks ago pitching Thomas Crown 2. They said, "come back" and I said "it's not up to me, guys. I think I was caught up between the egos of the producers and the studios, really. They (the producers) didn't know whether to go younger, they didn't know what to do, period. I don't know what the truth is. It could be as honest as that, but it seems strange, especially as each film made more and more money. Maybe it's all a big, clever ploy just to bang the drum. We've seen it over the years with Sean and Roger" said Brosnan.

Full story save for posterity. (Goes to show the thinking in 2005-2006 also the spin after)

[spoil]

Brosnan Still Favourite For Bond
By Garth Franklin Wednesday September 14th 2005 07:53PM

MI6 has learned that Pierce Brosnan is now the top contender for the role of James Bond in "Casino Royale" after all, due to studio pressure and the lack of an obvious candidate to replace him. No date has been set for an official announcement on the role, but the site believes it is imminent.

Sony, who took over MGM earlier in the year, have been turning down candidates all over the place. The casting of 007 is now down to four people: Amy Pascal (Sony), Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli (Eon Productions producers), and Martin Campbell (director of "Casino Royale"). Each party have had their favourites, and due to the much reported failure to find a suitable replacement by the producers, despite their wide reaching casting calls, Sony looks like it may have come to the conclusion that if it's not broke, don't fix it.

Despite the calls of critics and naysayers saying the franchise is dying, financially the series has never been healthier. Brosnan's films have outgrossed all the previous entries in the series by far, his first three taking between $340-360 million each worldwide, the most recent "Die Another Day" earning $432 million - well over $100 million a piece more than the films of the "Bourne" movie franchise which critics have been pegging as the modern successor to Bond.

Pierce Brosnan has been hinting to the media over the past few days that the situation has changed and he was willing to step back into the tuxedo for a fifth and final time. On the subject of his pay demands (said to be �20m/$35m USD), Brosnan set the record straight with GQ Magazine: "Twenty million [pounds]? Oh no, rubbish. Oh for God's sake. Bollocks. No way. No, it was a handsome figure of maybe �10 million ($17m USD) or something like that (near equal to his "Die Another Day" paycheck). Given what the films make it was a spit in the bucket. I wasn't being greedy. The age issue? Bollocks to that, too."

Brosnan candidly explained, "Sony are pulling their hair out over it, apparently. I was in their offices just a few weeks ago pitching Thomas Crown 2. They said, "come back" and I said "it's not up to me, guys. I think I was caught up between the egos of the producers and the studios, really. They (the producers) didn't know whether to go younger, they didn't know what to do, period. I don't know what the truth is. It could be as honest as that, but it seems strange, especially as each film made more and more money. Maybe it's all a big, clever ploy just to bang the drum. We've seen it over the years with Sean and Roger" said Brosnan.

The major shooting location for "Casino Royale" will move to the Bahamas, and not South Africa as originally planned says Commander Bond. Pre-production is on schedule and filming is still set to commence in early January 2006.

Thanks to 'Sean', 'John', 'Paul' & 'Vipul'

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Second (Circa 2010)

It was a moment in his career when he was thinking about getting a new Bond and whether there could be someone as good as Piers [Brosnan] and if people would accept something different. We talked for hours about the importance of taking risks, on a personal and artistic level.

[Omega]

NM is not going to make the top ten. $686k and it will break $25 million soon but it had a huge cut in theater count

[Alessandra]

Pascal "begged" Brosnan to do Bond a few weeks before Cr-egg was announced? He said no? Where did you see this?

It's from an article before CR was released. He didn't say no. He said the decision was not up to him and they knew where to find him. Amy did not have the authority to hire or fire him, unfortunately this was Ms. Broccoli's.

Yes. Remember how we tried to tell you there was a war between Sony and MGM on one side, and Broccolis on the other, on this? Well here you go.

[Alessandra]

MGM Buys 55% of Roma Downey and Mark Burnett's Empire; Relaunches United Artists

Well, well, well...
MGM sure is doing better and better. And for those who don't chew too much showbiz, these two people they bought stakes off of? Own some of the most lucrative shows on TV, including The Voice and Survivor.
I think we can count on MGM's resurgence for other reasons, too. (And I mean personal info I have). So, this bodes WELL for the Bond future because the stronger MGM is, the LEAST chance that horrible woman has to screw things up some more. Pascal and MGM will be in agreement over things, that much I am sure of.

[bjmdds]

Let them stew that green vegetable at Eon and boil her until she sells Bond to them.

[Eye Of The Tiger]

Any of you think that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that Brosnan would be brought back to play Bond one last time if and when Cr-egg leaves?

I know it seems completely unrealistic, but imagine the publicity that they could get for the film if they brought Pierce back with the understanding that it was only going to be for one film.

Connery was brought back for DAF and the unofficial NSNA.

[bjmdds]

Brosnan as M?

[FormerBondFan]

Any of you think that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that Brosnan would be brought back to play Bond one last time if and when Cr-egg leaves?

I know it seems completely unrealistic, but imagine the publicity that they could get for the film if they brought Pierce back with the understanding that it was only going to be for one film.

Connery was brought back for DAF and the unofficial NSNA.

As a 90s kid and due to Pierce being my favorite Bond, I don't want to see his Bond as older gentleman. What's more important now is getting much better director and especially writer for the sequels to NM.

[Blowfeld]

Any of you think that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that Brosnan would be brought back to play Bond one last time if and when Cr-egg leaves?

I know it seems completely unrealistic, but imagine the publicity that they could get for the film if they brought Pierce back with the understanding that it was only going to be for one film.

Connery was brought back for DAF and the unofficial NSNA.

I had a odd Bond dream about just that. I doubt it even if they are trying to go old with Bond as they are with Daniel. In an emergency maybe. Never say never and all that.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

Any of you think that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that Brosnan would be brought back to play Bond one last time if and when Cr-egg leaves?

I hope not. He had his chances, and failed to do anything with the role each time. This talk of Brosnan being asked back by Pascal, is there a link? I find that hard to believe, given how they dumped him, and his cataclysmic hissy fit and sucession of f-bombs towards EON. When Craig leaves, the next era has to distance itself form the current era, just like the Craig era has gone out of it's way to distance itself from the James Bond series c.1962-2002.

[Blowfeld]

Any of you think that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that Brosnan would be brought back to play Bond one last time if and when Cr-egg leaves?

I hope not. He had his chances, and failed to do anything with the role each time. This talk of Brosnan being asked back by Pascal, is there a link? I find that hard to believe, given how they dumped him, and his cataclysmic hissy fit and sucession of f-bombs towards EON. When Craig leaves, the next era has to distance itself form the current era, just like the Craig era has gone out of it's way to distance itself from the James Bond series c.1962-2002.

I don't know he, Timothy, Rodger, Georg, Sean blew their chances to do anything. They made the movie they were asked to make under the control freakish EON where directors and actors had short leashes.

Still I don't see how they (EON) could do a DAF with Pierce, The remake of Thunderball happened outside EONs control.

However the talk about the new Bond movies has talked about using the age as part of the story.

Amy asked Pierce to return in 2005 before Craig was officially announced. The link is with the quote about a few pages back.

In a perfect world Daniel leaves and the series reinvents itself probably come back closer to the classic series. I hope.

[Kristatos]

Any of you think that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that Brosnan would be brought back to play Bond one last time if and when Cr-egg leaves?

I know it seems completely unrealistic, but imagine the publicity that they could get for the film if they brought Pierce back with the understanding that it was only going to be for one film.

Connery was brought back for DAF and the unofficial NSNA.

Yes, and they were terrible. A Brosnan Bond film in, I guess, 2017 at the earliest would just be an exercise in nostalgia. Brosnan has moved on and so has the series. And as for Amy Pascal intervening, this strikes me as wishful thinking, based in a failure to recognize that ours is a minority opinion. As far as critics and the wider moviegoing public are concerned, EON have been fully vindicated in their decision to hire Craig. We may long for a return to a more traditional Bond, but put yourself in the position of a studio executive concerned with the bottom line and ask yourself: why should we try to please half a dozen mentals on the internet when Skyfall grossed over a billion dollars?

[Omega]

On the other hand I'm not so sure the cheerleading team that gushes for Craig wouldn't be just as excited for Brosnan as a serious older 007.

I don't think it will ever happen. For whatever reason bond can only Manage 1 movie at a time ever 3or 4 years I can't see them changing too quickly to gear up for another actor

[Omega]

Nm is limping along with $71 k Monday