The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

General Bond discussion from Sean Connery to Pierce Brosnan

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Postby Omega » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:46 am

Who were they fighting against to cast Sean Connery? It was primarily Ian Fleming who felt he was too unpolished to play bond. Connery worked hard to develop the right attitude and mannerisms to be a gentleman winning Ian Fleming over.

Babs wanted Craig, MGW didn’t we know this from his neighbors candid confession of his reservations, Sony and Amy pascal didn’t, they pushed for other choices and went behind babs back to talk to brosnan just weeks before Craig was official to the public.
What babs did have in Sony was a partner/management who went all in not lose money on this movie using their considerable media presence and online bot tactics to successfully creat false narratives the media and others could use to build up Craig and the franchise to this day.
I do believe babs feels vindicated thing turned out as they did for CR, a mediocre performance for a bond movie but not DOA.
she did fight for Craig and chose that hill to die on, now she will views the modest fan reaction against her (which depressed Craig on the set of CR) and initial media opposition was what she fought against to bring her vision , a better vision of bond than her daddy or Ian Fleming to the screen.
And I honestly don’t know if there is anything more substantial to her bond than it’s not daddy’s because far as a character Craig hasn’t really develop any, my impression of his movies as they happened is they were trying for the same note over and over, bond not bond but become him in this movie. If anyone else is brutally honest nothing about Craig really developed or moved the character along. Nothing actually happen from CR to SP that is satisfying as a story arc, nothing in the CR story actually was that satisfying either other than it was different, which only tells us the audience was tired of how babs and mgw polishes turds by injecting jokes or forcing humor that might not belong in the scene.

Babs is stuck in 2005/06 never actually acknowledging the reality two of her darling Craig’s movie are outright disliked by audiences in general, three of the four did not age well and in retrospect are not liked, only Cr might still have defenders but I’m not too sure about how stuck in the moment of 2006 that movie is either.

She will never admit she broke the franchise or kept Craig on too long or that he might have been wrong for the role in retrospect because he couldn’t play the character as established which had a wide lane from Connery, Moore, to Dalton to chose from.
The only thing broken with the franchise in 2005 that the critics rejoiced about changing in 2006 was her and her brothers management.
For some reason the fans have thought of the broccoli family as the protectors of the integrity of bond movies. I wonder why when a great number of those fans who flocked to Craig essentially wanted Bourne or some other serious take on bond anything but what the family had offered up in the last 40 years. Fans who knew so little about the written character they fell into line arguing studio talking points about how Fleming intended the character to be even though the books and Fleming’s comments and contributions to the first movies were said otherwise.

Babs is living in another world and that’s fine because she can afford to, but the world evolved past where she was 14-15 years ago. She can pretend she’s refighting battles she already won all she likes it’ll never change the fact she is a hack producer only empowered by cunning one sided contracts her father made when he placed a bet on a little know book series and author in the middle of the 20th century.



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Postby Veronica » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:11 pm

dirtybenny wrote:
Veronica wrote:Wait, Lea will be returning? Who would care about a freaking sequel 4 year after that horror!



You don't understand V, We can't let a golden opportunity to retell the same exact story for a fifth time! No matter how many times we see Craig go rogue, lose the love of his life/mother figure, and just generally be a grouchy self loathing SOB (not necessarily in that order) never gets old! You also don't understand the hunger of the audience, the abject starvation of the public, to see such a "great" actress as what's her name sleepwalk her way though the film delivering her dialogue with a palpable yawn!


Oh, well, silly me for not understanding what people want. :jack:
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Postby Omega » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:01 pm

Wtf?


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Postby Veronica » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:10 am

The last one is deranged :roll:
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Classic film scene :!:
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Postby Kristatos » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:01 pm

Variety says that Rami Malek is being eyed for the villain (Blofeld?) in Bond 25, but that his shooting schedule on Mr Robot makes it unlikely that he would be able to do it: https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond ... 203084117/

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Postby bjmdds » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:03 pm

Now you're talking action :!: :up:
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Postby Omega » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:56 pm

God both those movies sucked. Also I thought they were bo disappointments


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Postby Omega » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:01 pm

Skull island brought in $566 million on a $185millon budget $555 million break even estimate

Godzilla brought in $529 million on a $160 million budget $480 million break even estimate


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Postby bjmdds » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:45 am

The planet cannot get enough of Godzilla and company big O, and---------In 2020-------it's the first remake ever of-----King Kong vs. Godzilla which was quite popular in the 1960s :!: This film will be released 58 years after the original "King Kong Vs. Godzilla" (1962), 66 years after the original "Godzilla" (1954), and 87 years after the original "King Kong" (1933).
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Postby Omega » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:31 am

No, I get the kaiju craze, just that these particular movies tried to cash in on the craze and nostalgia for the campy originals but WB over cooked the recipe. IMHO



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Postby Blowfeld » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:17 pm

Kristatos wrote:Variety says that Rami Malek is being eyed for the villain (Blofeld?) in Bond 25, but that his shooting schedule on Mr Robot makes it unlikely that he would be able to do it: https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond ... 203084117/

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While I am nominating an all star television cast I would also name Craig......Craig McLachlan as 007, sporting his best Roger Moore beard from Doctor Blake.
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