US Election 2008

[Dr. No]

Well Barack fried the GM head

I'm not sure that was good a idea.

I think Barack has the chance to do great things but he is in too d**n big a hurry to buffalo a bunch of pork adn government control through.

[bjmdds]

Oh-bama's views about making nice to Iran, Cuba and Venezuela will all backfire on him. He is a clueless individual who thinks he can charm dictators into nice people.

[Kristatos]

Well Barack fried the GM head

I think you mean fired. Or did he eat his liver with fava beans and a nice chianti?

[Dr. No]

Well Barack fried the GM head

I think you mean fired. Or did he eat his liver with fava beans and a nice chianti?

I think it was on the menu

[bjmdds]

This Oh-bama must go. He wanted congress to give him $80 miilion to close Gitmo. They voted 90-6 against it, yet the Democrats campaigned that Bush was wrong to keep those sweet, miserable, upstanding, deeply religious animals in cages. Now, they AGREED with Bush and REJECTED their own Oh-bama. GOOD. California voted down the propositions to raise taxes to bail out the state. The worm is turning against this wave of Obamanation being perpetuated by the Democrats. They all suck, whichever party rules. Harry Reid wants to know where Obama plans to put the sweet innocent detainees. Pelosi knew about torture, Ried campaigned to close Gitmo, yet, NOTHING has been done. Those slobs on The View need to learn about governing as well.

[Dr. Joseph]

U.S. President Barack Obama (C) and France's President Nicolas Sarkozy (R) take their places with junior G8 delegates for a family photo at the G8 summit in L'Aquila, Italy, July 9, 2009. Leaders of the Group of Eight major industrial nations and the main developing economies are meeting in the central Italian city of L'Aquila until Friday to discuss issues ranging from global economic stimulus to climate change and oil prices.
REUTERS/Jason Reed (ITALY POLITICS IMAGES OF THE DAY)

[FormerBondFan]

U.S. President Barack Obama (C) and France's President Nicolas Sarkozy (R) take their places with junior G8 delegates for a family photo at the G8 summit in L'Aquila, Italy, July 9, 2009. Leaders of the Group of Eight major industrial nations and the main developing economies are meeting in the central Italian city of L'Aquila until Friday to discuss issues ranging from global economic stimulus to climate change and oil prices.
REUTERS/Jason Reed (ITALY POLITICS IMAGES OF THE DAY)

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

[Dr. No]

U.S. President Barack Obama (C) and France's President Nicolas Sarkozy (R) take their places with junior G8 delegates for a family photo at the G8 summit in L'Aquila, Italy, July 9, 2009. Leaders of the Group of Eight major industrial nations and the main developing economies are meeting in the central Italian city of L'Aquila until Friday to discuss issues ranging from global economic stimulus to climate change and oil prices.
REUTERS/Jason Reed (ITALY POLITICS IMAGES OF THE DAY)

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

try telling that to Bill Clinton!


That picture lies. thats not what happened the video has different story. Barack was turning to help someone down the step behind him and well I guess they got Sarkozy right.

[Dr. No]

I just heard about this. They only thing that give it legs is that Barack hasn't produced his birth certificate
I'm putting in bold the point i found interesting

$10,000 bounty for any witness to Obama's birth
July 12, 6:08 PM
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Young Obama


The legal battles over Barack Hussein Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president are picking up steam. Joseph Farah, editor of WorldNetDaily, is offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can prove he or she was present at the birth of Barack Obama. "Barack Obama claims to have been born in Honolulu Aug. 4, 1961," explains Farah. "His entire constitutional claim to the presidency rests on this premise. Yet, he refuses to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate – the only document that could possibly corroborate his claim. Therefore, in the interest of truth, justice and the Constitution, I am making the extraordinary offer to entice someone to come forward with the facts of his birth – whether it took place in Hawaii or elsewhere."


Under Hawaiian law, birth certificates are private, and not subject to open records or freedom of information requests. To date, Obama has refused to waive his privilege of confidentiality, or to provide any information concerning the location of his birth.

Obama with his mother


According to Farah, Obama has steadfastly refused to release evidence of that Hawaiian birth – a valid, long-form birth certificate that would show details of the birth, such as the hospital and the attending physician. Because the short-form "certification of live birth" he released to select news organization was at least sometimes issued for foreign births on the basis of an affidavit by one parent, it proves nothing as far as constitutional eligibility – and, in fact, raises suspicions about a foreign birth. And Obama's paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, claims to have been present for Barack’s birth in Mombassa, Kenya.


Complicating the issue are Obama's move to Indonesia as a child, where he reportedly attended that nation's public schools, registered as “Barry Soetoro,.” and was listed as an “Indonesian Muslim.” There have also been questions raised concerning his later travels to Pakistan, and on what nation's passport that travel was accomplished. Then there are the multiple law firms hired to make certain Obama's long-form birth certificate information, and other documentation such as medical and college records, remain sealed from public view.

Paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama


Dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen" have been filed in courts across the nation. The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President." Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.


In California, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter has scheduled a July 13 hearing in a case challenging Barack Obama's eligibility to be president in which the plaintiff Alan Keys' attorney, Orly Taitz, says the commander-in-chief is in default. Keys, former Assistant U.S. Secretary of State and U.N. Ambassador, was also a contestant in the 2008 presidential race in California.

[Kristatos]

I just heard about this. They only thing that give it legs is that Barack hasn't produced his birth certificate

Sigh. Yes he has. He produced a certified copy that is considered equal to the original by everyone except conspiracy theory whackjobs. I don't have my original birth certificate either. Does that mean I was born in Kenya?

[bjmdds]

Why is he so secretive about it AND his college records too?

[Kristatos]

Why is he so secretive about it AND his college records too?

He isn't. He posted a copy of his birth certificate, which has been certified as genuine by the State of Hawaii, the day after these silly rumours first surfaced. The crazies immediately denounced it as a fake, just as they would if Hawaii were to overturn its state law and produce the vault copy. Conspiracy theory nuts weren't convinced by film footage of the moon landing or by the endless documentary evidence of the Holocaust, why would they be convinced by the vault copy of the birth certificate?

[Kristatos]

http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/

[Dr. Joseph]

Somebody was over confident

White House puts on a brave face over Olympics loss
October 2, 2009 | 11:03 am

So the "O team," President and First Lady Obama (two, count ‘em), and Oprah Winfrey failed to carry the day in Copenhagen, and the world’s athletes will samba their way to Rio de Janeiro in 2016. The real question is will there be a political fallout?

It sounds silly to think that something happening seven years from now could have a political effect on this president. Obama is facing issues including healthcare reform, a still struggling economy and international concerns such as Iran’s nuclear ambitions and what to do about Afghanistan. Will people focus on a failed Olympic bid?

Perhaps a clue to how seriously the White House is thinking about the effect was top political aide David Axelrod taking to the airwaves to inoculate the body politic. "I am proud of this president for going to make the case for this country,” Axelrod told MSNBC. “I think this country can be proud of that. Again, we’re disappointed it didn’t work out, but it was well worth the effort. I’m not worried about the politics.

“Any time you’re going and making the case for the United States of America, you’re doing the right thing,” he said.

“All he really lost was some sleep, and he was more than happy to do that,” Axelrod told Bloomberg television. “In this town you’d be criticized if you did go; you’d be criticized if you didn’t go." Obama will speak when Air Force One returns.

Chicago is hardly a stranger to politics. You would think folks there would have remembered how Mayor Richard Daley made sure his people counted the presidential votes in 1960. Madrid being one of the finalist cities didn’t surprise anyone who understands patronage. After all, Madrid was being pushed by former International Olympic Committee Chief Juan Antonio Samaranch.

Still, Chicago lost in the first round. But its losing bid was hardly the fault of Obama, who didn’t do anything more than try to use his star power to glad-hand the IOC. Businesspeople and politicians from the president’s hometown put the bid together and will have to deal with the ire of Chicagoans – if there is any. Chicago may be the city of big shoulders, but it has also seen its share of big sports disappointments -- like the Cubs.

And while today’s unemployment numbers won’t make the administration happy, Obama can take comfort that some form of healthcare reform is working its way through Congress and that he got a chance to look statesman-like on the international scene this week during the ongoing talks over Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

And even Oprah can take comfort knowing she will continue to be one of the most beloved television personalities on the planet, as well as one of the wealthiest. She can also console herself with being first to interview Mackenzie Phillips.

-- Michael Muskal

[carl stromberg]

I'm not sure the Olympics are that important. Afghanistan seems to be going badly at the moment. Obama was the hero of many opposed to thr Iraq war, but he is committed to the mission in Afghanistan.

[bjmdds]

How is the Oh-bama doing now? 44% approval and going down.

[Dr. No]

I am completely disgusted by this health care con job. GIbbs that idiot spokesman for teh white house said that that passed this pork filled health care with a majority in the senate and house, thing is nobody now wants it now, and if the have a damned majority why not pass the bill Obama is talking about (which is just as bad) instead of trying to force this pork heavy bill through by misrepresenting it to the american people and trying a crooked parliamentary trick? which every damned democrat including obama preached against 2 years ago.

I wish we could impeach him now and get clean house in congress now. I will not forget this and will vote against all the crooks every opportunity.

Sad thing is this has killed the once proud democrat party. I don't see my self voting dem just because they will be press ganged by the party in to going along for bad policies. Republicans are just as bad but in this case the dems have gone too far to stick it to the american people.

[bjmdds]

Dr. No is a political genius, a genius I tell you. I agree 100000% with your thoughts. The difference in 2010 and 2012 is that the Republican party now has found it's way back to where it should be, not the mess Georgie Bush brought it. Vote ALL the people out who support this bill and do NOT trust the Oh-bama. He is the MOST arrogant president I have ever seen. I cannot stand him and better yet, Matt Damon and his crew are fed up with him as well, so he has NO base to back him any longer. NY is going through the same thing with Patterson after Spitzer. Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Oh-bama, Frank, Schumer, et al, must go.

[Kristatos]

Far from being arrogant, Obama has painted himself into a corner with his obsession with bipartisanship. You can't be bipartisan when the opposition sees its only job as to prevent you from governing. The attempt at reconciliation may actually be a good thing, as it will require the votes of the House, and the House bill was far superior to the pork-laden Senate one, with its universal mandate and other boondoggles to the vampires of the health insurance industry (an industry which, IMO, deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth).

[Dr. No]

Not really, the house can only pass teh senate bill as it is. After wards they are supposed to going in for reconciliation/nuclear option and that is where they are supposed to fix all the problems with the bill. NO guarantee any of it will happen. Its a bad bill and needs to die

bipartisan? where on earth do you get that?, Obama rubber stamped the old pork bill and is trying to push it any way.
There was no bipartisanship the dems made and pushed it through, hell they did it with 3 or 4 senators where were never elected and only served the party not their people in thier districts.

The obama bill doesn't exists an he knows it, all he has is the 2000 page pork bill, his offering of a his plan/ final offer and the 7 hour clown show from last week were nothing, he already had planned to press the pork bill though any way.

He is lieing about teh support he has for it, if there was support for what he is talking about they could right up a new bill and get it soon as next week, but he cant so he is going with the pork bill.

The bill props up the health companies not making them reform, I hate those bas***ds but they aren't the real heart of the problem with health care or why it cost so damned much. Health insurance cost go up because the health care cost go up, this bill isn't going to even touch that. The bushes and clintons helped make the mess we are in now, we should use the laws to make the insurance companies more responsible and under constant scrutiny by state, local and federal goverments .


The dems are trying to pull a fast one, Obama got to where he is because he isn't listening to the American people, he is doing his agenda and don't give a d**n if we want it or . I'll never forgive him for that. He thinks he can make a few more speeches run a few ads and well "get our minds right". What We wanted was real change and we got half assed attempt at holding up the status quo and more working hand in hand with the big business bleeding us dry.