The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[katied]

In "The plot sickens" news the Daily Express is claiming that Michael Sheen has been cast as Blofeld.

Ummmm what?


The movie hasn't even been freakin' written yet.


Apparently "Sheen is hot property and they think that he's the right person to bring Blofeld back to life"(more like regurgitate him IMO)

[Kristatos]

In "The plot sickens" news the Daily Express is claiming that Michael Sheen has been cast as Blofeld.

Ummmm what?


The movie hasn't even been freakin' written yet.


Apparently "Sheen is hot property and they think that he's the right person to bring Blofeld back to life"(more like regurgitate him IMO)

Yes, there's a distinct whiff of bovine ordure about that story. You'd think Fleming's own newspaper would get a Bond story right.

[katied]

The same plots(Bond goes rogue after M gets kidnapped) have started to come up in conversation at the usual places again. The "going rogue" thing is a bit overdone, no?

[stockslivevan]

I hope not. We've already had Bond "go rogue" in TWINE, DAD, CR, and QOS all in a row.

[Mazer Rackham]

I hope not. We've already had Bond "go rogue" in TWINE, DAD, CR, and QOS all in a row.

Its about what Cubby's kids are left with. And we all know "rogue" is "hip", all those brooding kids with their baggy pants and Walkmans all think going rogue is off the "off the hook"

I'm hip. I'm with it. Duka duka duka duka"

[katied]

I hope not. We've already had Bond "go rogue" in TWINE, DAD, CR, and QOS all in a row.

Its about what Cubby's kids are left with. And we all know "rogue" is "hip", all those brooding kids with their baggy pants and Walkmans all think going rogue is off the "off the hook"

I'm hip. I'm with it. Duka duka duka duka"

Exactly.Let's not dance around it. Rogue is overdone.As is suggesting bringing back Blofeld.

[Kristatos]

And we all know "rogue" is "hip", all those brooding kids with their baggy pants and Walkmans all think going rogue is off the "off the hook"

It's actually what's taught in film schools. I went to a screenwriting seminar once where we were told that the protagonist of your movie should be somehow "outside the system" and that audiences wouldn't identify with a hero who was an agent of the establishment. That was about the time (mid-'90s) that Bond suddenly became yet another cop on the edge, continually having to justify his crazy antics to the commissioner, so to speak.

[stockslivevan]

That was about the time (mid-'90s) that Bond suddenly became yet another cop on the edge, continually having to justify his crazy antics to the commissioner, so to speak.

To be fair Bond had always been as such. Look back as far as Goldfinger when he gets berated by M for fooling around with Goldfinger's girl instead of investigating the man himself. And in TLD where he's supposed to assassinate Pushkin but his instincts tell him something's up. Stuff like that is fine once in awhile. But having four straight films of "rogue Bond" is pushing it. Of course Bond turns out to have been right all along in the end of each flick, but it wouldn't have hurt to inform his superiors of what he's onto. Heck even in QOS M expresses that she trusts Bond's judgments.

[Kristatos]

To be fair Bond had always been as such. Look back as far as Goldfinger when he gets berated by M for fooling around with Goldfinger's girl instead of investigating the man himself. And in TLD where he's supposed to assassinate Pushkin but his instincts tell him something's up. Stuff like that is fine once in awhile. But having four straight films of "rogue Bond" is pushing it. Of course Bond turns out to have been right all along in the end of each flick, but it wouldn't have hurt to inform his superiors of what he's onto. Heck even in QOS M expresses that she trusts Bond's judgments.

I think it became more pronounced in the Brosnan and Craig eras, though, probably due to a perceived need to make him more of an outsider.

[katied]

But having four straight films of "rogue Bond" is pushing it

The phrase "same old same old" comes right to mind!

[stockslivevan]

That was the point I made Kris. With the arc finished off in QOS, I hope Bond 23 will be standard spy fare but with the best to offer. Craig's on the mark that it should go for a lighter tone, as he remarked about how he wants the next one to have Bond sitting on the beach with a martini for about an hour of the flick.

[katied]

Better him sitting on a beach than some of the stuff that has been(admittedly) rumored

[stockslivevan]

You mean Blofeld?

Let's just make it clear. Blofeld returning has been rumored for every Bond film that has been made since god knows when. It happened with CR, it happened with QOS, and it's now happening with Bond 23. But will Blofeld really return in a future Bond film? At the moment, NO. The legal wranglings are to messed up to even bring it up. Cubby dumped Blofeld in the chimney almost 30 years ago so there's no going back.

I'm just ranting right now because I hate talking about Blofeld rumors, it's pointless. Nothing will come out of them. There gotta be far more interesting rumors than that dead horse.

[katied]

I know it bothers you, but what else is there to talk about? *shrug*

(and agreed that it's a dead horse -albeit a very tender one )

[stockslivevan]

Moneypenny, for example. Should she be "introduced" or should they present her as if her and Bond already knew eachother (ala Lois Maxwell's backstory).

If Q ever returns, I'd prefer he'd be referred to as Major Boothroyd. Should be played like the Peter Burton version in Dr. No. None of that "OH GROW UP 007!" that Desmond Llewellyn did. That was his shtick and should remain so. John Cleese made a poor replacement.

[katied]

*If*(and this is a big *if*) they bring her back they should have it as if they know each other, But get an actress who isn't that well known(the people who are always suggested for the role are way too well known,IMO).

[stockslivevan]

Given the Moneypenny actress history, probably not. But hey, every role these days are being suggested for big time actors.

[katied]

As much as I like Michael Sheen, I think that the Express was putting together 2 and 2 and getting five


As for actresses, I'd LOVE to see them cast someone out of left field for Moneypenny.

[oscartheman]

They should finish up Craig's Bond as it started.No Q.No Moneypenny.No Bond

[katied]

To me Q= Desmond Llewellen. John Cleese was a pale imitation(and I'm a Monty Python fan!)