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bjmdds wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:31 am Scooper Jeff Sneider replied: “There have been calls made. The idea that there hasn’t been is very funny to me. Does Barbara just sit at home all day playing Candy Crush?”
Barbara has said that there are other non-Bond projects taking priority at the moment, So those aren't the only two options.
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:21 am
bjmdds wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:31 am Scooper Jeff Sneider replied: “There have been calls made. The idea that there hasn’t been is very funny to me. Does Barbara just sit at home all day playing Candy Crush?”
Barbara has said that there are other non-Bond projects taking priority at the moment, So those aren't the only two options.
One of them being Craig’s Othello. She has helped secure financing and will be producing.
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Craig's Othello? Who is he playing? I know it's not the title role in this day and age.

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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:26 pm Craig's Othello? Who is he playing? I know it's not the title role in this day and age.

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Broccoli produced Craig’s stage version with David Oyelowo as Othello and Craig played Iago.

He has now been setting up the film version of this which would take place in an army barracks (like the stage play), and they will shoot this in the Middle East.

No idea if Mr. Oyelowo will be returning as the title character.

A quick blurb: “his Othello project is already backed by Barbara Broccoli, whose family holds the keys to the future of the Bond franchise—making it a perfect target for anyone looking to get on the heiress’ good side. Qatar has invested heavily in bringing Hollywood to its shores since 2009, pouring money into producer Peter Chernin’s company, enlisting former Universal exec Ron Meyer as a film consultant, and hosting its own film festivals. Craig has likewise been fighting to bring his vision of Othello to the big screen since the acclaimed stage production’s run off Broadway in 2016, sources said.”

I forgot to add: Craig will be returning to the villainous role of Iago.
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Both of Kim Sherwood’s “Double O” novels are masterclasses in world-building. The Double O section is now headed by Moneypenny, who, in this version of the timeline, rose through the ranks with Bond. A male version of M still oversees the Secret Service in general, but he’s a kindly grandfather figure who Sherwood says she modeled on Patrick Stewart. Meanwhile, the gadget expert “Q” (most recently played by Ben Whishaw in the films) is essentially an AI in this version, a quantum computer that assists MI6 with various intelligence gathering and tech problems. https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/k ... bond-canon
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I’ve never been able to get into any continuation novels, outside of Colonel Sun and the excellent James Bond authorized biography by John Pearson (love, love, love this book. Never gets boring or old).

I couldn’t get through Gardner’s output (after a while, the stories and double crosses all started to meld; although I find Icebreaker memorable).

I’ve given up on the continuation novels. Apart from CS and the biography, the other books feel like thrillers with a character names James Bond.

I suppose these Sherwood books may be of interest because James Bond doesn’t feature in them, is that right? Hes gone missing, and a crew of double-O agents are searching for him?…
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:21 am
bjmdds wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:31 am Scooper Jeff Sneider replied: “There have been calls made. The idea that there hasn’t been is very funny to me. Does Barbara just sit at home all day playing Candy Crush?”
Barbara has said that there are other non-Bond projects taking priority at the moment, So those aren't the only two options.
Considering her "success" rate on her non-Bond projects she'd be better off sticking to the Candy Crush.
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dirtybenny wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:28 pm Considering her "success" rate on her non-Bond projects she'd be better off sticking to the Candy Crush.
To be fair, you can't really go far wrong with Shakespeare, at least the best-known plays. The reason The Scottish Play was said to be unlucky is that repertory companies would reel it out as a last resort if their fortunes were on the slide, as it's pretty much guaranteed to put bums on seats.
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:10 pm ...as it's pretty much guaranteed to put bums on seats.
Except when it stars Daniel Craig in a floral kimono.
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:10 pm ...as it's pretty much guaranteed to put bums on seats.
Except when it stars Daniel Craig in a floral kimono.
Wasn't the stage version a big hit, though?

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Every account and review I saw of it universally panned the production.
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dirtybenny wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:51 pm Every account and review I saw of it universally panned the production.
But was that reflected at the box office?
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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:10 pm
dirtybenny wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:51 pm Every account and review I saw of it universally panned the production.
But was that reflected at the box office?
Well, according to this article:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/S ... a-20220705

It broke records!... Until you read the next paragraph where corporate donors including EON production's mega benefactor Omega watches bought scores of tickets to give away free to school children. Hmmm :^o):
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dirtybenny wrote: It broke records!... Until you read the next paragraph where corporate donors including EON production's mega benefactor Omega watches bought scores of tickets to give away free to school children. Hmmm :^o):
That was Macbeth*, not Othello.

*=Aah! Hot potato, orchestra, stalls, Puck will make amends.

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Sorry for the confusion Kris, I thought that was what we were talking about?
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dirtybenny wrote:Sorry for the confusion Kris, I thought that was what we were talking about?
No, Pluto said that Craig is playing Iago in Othello.

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Kristatos wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:06 pm
dirtybenny wrote:Sorry for the confusion Kris, I thought that was what we were talking about?
No, Pluto said that Craig is playing Iago in Othello.

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Yes, but you referred to "The Scottish play" which prompted my comment on Craig's floral kimono in Macbeth. Which is where I thought you were going.
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As for Othello, it ran for a month back in 2016 and apparently made some money, but of course how much of that was down to Craig being the current Bond? And to the point of our discussion I don't think EON was involved, will this film version finally make EON some non-Bond money? Eh...
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dirtybenny wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:17 pm As for Othello, it ran for a month back in 2016 and apparently made some money, but of course how much of that was down to Craig being the current Bond? And to the point of our discussion I don't think EON was involved, will this film version finally make EON some non-Bond money? Eh...
Yes EoN was involved in both productions (Othello and MacBeth). Sam Gold was also the director of both, and his name (as one of the premiere stage directors), combined with Craig’s involvement saw great box office and strong reviews, with MacBeth having a few more mixed, than Othello, but MacBeth brought in more dollars.

Saying that, both made killer ticket sales.
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Yes, at least one of which definitely benefiting from corporate donation.
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